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  • For those who say Taliban are just Pashtun : Meet Tajik/Pamiri Taliban

    Many people keep insisting the Taliban are Pashtuns, while it is true that the majority are Pashtun, there are non Pashtuns from all ethnic group involved in the movement. At the end you can see them pledge their allegiance to Haibatullah Akhundzada.

    Taliban Movement in Badakhshan Province - Afghanistan - YouTube
    Last edited by Shapur; 12-10-2016, 11:46 AM.

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    Originally posted by Shapur View Post
    Many people keep insisting the Taliban are Pashtuns, while it is true that the majority are Pashtun, there are non Pashtuns from all ethnic group involved in the movement. At the end you can see them pledge their allegiance to Haibatullah Akhundzada.
    Taliban are Pashtuns. Just because few Tajiks have joined the movement it doesn't mean Tajiks support it. For the average Tajik Taliban means Punjabi.

    BTW according to Pashtun nationalists and Pakistani dark skinned Apus, Tajiks are mongols but very few of these Tajiks in this video look Turkic. Actually many of them are red haired and blonde. Hilarious lol
    "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
    I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

    -Ferdowsi.

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    • #3
      In Herat most of famous Taliban were both Tajiks: Ghulam Yayah Akbari (killed few years ago) and Soleiman Amiri (joined government). Still it doesn't change the fact that most of Taliban in Herat are from heavily populated Pashtun districs such as Shindand, Pashtun Zarghoon, Adraskan, etc.
      "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
      I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

      -Ferdowsi.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
        Taliban are Pashtuns. Just because few Tajiks have joined the movement it doesn't mean Tajiks support it. For the average Tajik Taliban means Punjabi.

        BTW according to Pashtun nationalists and Pakistani dark skinned Apus, Tajiks are mongols but very few of these Tajiks in this video look Turkic. Actually many of them are red haired and blonde. Hilarious lol
        What I meant to show was that some people especially Pakistani media want to portray the conflict as an ethnic conflict where Pashtuns represented by Taliban are on one side while Farsi speakers represented by ANA on the other side. I do acknowledge that over 90% of Taliban are Pashtuns but it is not an ethnic struggle but an ideological one with ethnic and local politics mixed in.

        Majority of Tajiks from Afghanistan are caucasiod, there is no doubt in that to anyone who can differentiate between Hazras, Uzbeks, Turkmens etc. Some people call anyone who speaks farsi from Afghanistan as Tajik or farsiwan. Just like most Afghans call Pakistanis Punjabis. Its just due to ignorance. Tajiks of the mountains look similar to Pashtuns of Kunar, Laghman etc and Pamiris. Not all Tajiks look the same due to different climate, diet and origins and same is true for Pashtuns.

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        • #5
          Ttp was full of Uzbeks, there were reports that most were uncircumcised with tattoos all over their bodies.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Shapur View Post
            What I meant to show was that some people especially Pakistani media want to portray the conflict as an ethnic conflict where Pashtuns represented by Taliban are on one side while Farsi speakers represented by ANA on the other side. I do acknowledge that over 90% of Taliban are Pashtuns but it is not an ethnic struggle but an ideological one with ethnic and local politics mixed in.

            Majority of Tajiks from Afghanistan are caucasiod, there is no doubt in that to anyone who can differentiate between Hazras, Uzbeks, Turkmens etc. Some people call anyone who speaks farsi from Afghanistan as Tajik or farsiwan. Just like most Afghans call Pakistanis Punjabis. Its just due to ignorance. Tajiks of the mountains look similar to Pashtuns of Kunar, Laghman etc and Pamiris. Not all Tajiks look the same due to different climate, diet and origins and same is true for Pashtuns.
            Thats Pakistani propaganda for domestic use, Shapur Khan. We Afghans know the ground realities of our country. As a Tajik I acknowledge that not all Pashtuns are Taliban, just like not all Taliban are Pashtuns. Pakistanis use to claim that USA toppled a legitimate national government and imposed a Tajik dictatorship on Afghanistan but the bitter truth is that most of people working for USA in Afghanistan are Pashtuns (Khalilzad, Ghani, Atmar, Karzai, Jalili, etc) while most of those "Tajik leaders" are a bunch of corrupt brutal warlords.

            Your words reminded me of of Parwez Bisharaf. Even the ruler of Pakistan was so uneducated that he seriously believed that only Panjshiris were Tajiks in Afghanistan. Its not just propaganda. Most of Pakistanis are indeed retard*d. Check this out.

            Pakistan President Musharraf with his bloody ISI lost the war against Afghanistan Hero Massoud - YouTube

            "Total percent of Tajiks is 5%". Listen to him and his curry accent. Hilarious lol
            "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
            I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

            -Ferdowsi.

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            • #7
              Taliban have become much more multi-ethnic since their inception. They were almost completely Pashtun before, but now there's lots of Punjabis in the Afghan Taliban. This is clear because a lot of them who are caught by the Afghan army speak Dari with a Punjabi accent.

              Taliban 'mostly being Pashtuns' or 'representing Pashtuns' is just pure Pakistani propaganda. The Pashtuns on our side hate the Taliban as do the Pashtuns on the Afghan side. A few sympathisers doesn't change what an entire nation thinks. Pakistan has this perception that Pashtuns in Afghanistan are so backward, that the Taliban are the next step in civilising them. Makes me sick.

              Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
              Thats Pakistani propaganda for domestic use, Shapur Khan. We Afghans know the ground realities of our country. As a Tajik I acknowledge that not all Pashtuns are Taliban, just like not all Taliban are Pashtuns. Pakistanis use to claim that USA toppled a legitimate national government and imposed a Tajik dictatorship on Afghanistan but the bitter truth is that most of people working for USA in Afghanistan are Pashtuns (Khalilzad, Ghani, Atmar, Karzai, Jalili, etc) while most of those "Tajik leaders" are a bunch of corrupt brutal warlords.

              Your words reminded me of of Parwez Bisharaf. Even the ruler of Pakistan was so uneducated that he seriously believed that only Panjshiris were Tajiks in Afghanistan. Its not just propaganda. Most of Pakistanis are indeed retard*d. Check this out.

              Pakistan President Musharraf with his bloody ISI lost the war against Afghanistan Hero Massoud - YouTube

              "Total percent of Tajiks is 5%". Listen to him and his curry accent. Hilarious lol
              Musharraf is a lying piece of ****. He's the biggest coward of them all. He backtracks on what he said after someone corrected him and said '20 percent'. Even though the total number of Persian-speakers (not exclusively Tajiks) rounds up to possibly higher than 50 percent.

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              • #8
                Few brainwashed pamiris and punjabis eager to fight against unislamic army joining them doesn't mean whole lot. In case of punjabi tallies for exemple, they were there when Taliban captured Kabul. But TTP punjabi tallies were only known in 2008 after fights between different factions.

                One faction of TTP wanted uzbeks to go back to Afghanistan, while other wanted them to stay. As internal TTP conflict continued, pro-uzbek faction of TTP started to blame punju tallies (who were anti-uzbeks) for being agents of government. Before that no one new about punju tallies. So when the time comes these savages will forget about islamic brotherhood and will kill each other over ethnic and political differences. You need powerful state machinery to keep control of brainwashed jihadis of any ethnicity or sect.

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                • #9
                  ^Most of them are not Pamiri. Sunni Persian-speaking Tajiks are the majority in Badakhshan.
                  Last edited by Win Butler; 12-10-2016, 03:41 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Win Butler View Post
                    ^Most of them are not Pamiri. Sunni, Persian-speaking Tajiks are the majority in Badakhshan.
                    Pamiris are Shi'a, why would they join Taliban?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Porus View Post
                      Taliban have become much more multi-ethnic since their inception. They were almost completely Pashtun before, but now there's lots of Punjabis in the Afghan Taliban. This is clear because a lot of them who are caught by the Afghan army speak Dari with a Punjabi accent.
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                      Any proof of that? ANA usually say they are punjabis because then few afghan pashtuns in ANA don't feel any ethnic kinship. You being ram lal punjabi may not be aware of the fact that pashtuns don't fight each other over 3rd party influence unless brainwashed, since they are related by blood.

                      You don't see examples like this in now days in punjab since its mish mash of many castes. Apart from maybe in khalistani movement when sikh jatts refused to fire at khalistanis who were mostly sikh jatts. Hence Indian army came up with new regiment made of mazhabhi sikhs to take on khalistani sikh jatts.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
                        Taliban are Pashtuns. Just because few Tajiks have joined the movement it doesn't mean Tajiks support it. For the average Tajik Taliban means Punjabi.

                        BTW according to Pashtun nationalists and Pakistani dark skinned Apus, Tajiks are mongols but very few of these Tajiks in this video look Turkic. Actually many of them are red haired and blonde. Hilarious lol
                        They look like pashtuns from kunar.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by dawn View Post
                          Any proof of that? ANA usually say they are punjabis because then few afghan pashtuns in ANA don't feel any ethnic kinship. You being ram lal punjabi may not be aware of the fact that pashtuns don't fight each other over 3rd party influence unless brainwashed, since they are related by blood.
                          They say Punjabi because they see anyone from Pakistan as being part of the 'Punjabi' establishment in Pakistan. Stop trying to teach me crap, you clearly don't know anything.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Kakar-Wardak View Post
                            They look like pashtuns from kunar.
                            They look like my hairy ass hole.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Porus View Post
                              They look like my hairy ass hole.
                              Punjabi you guys can't pull off the beard and long hair look, look at your idols those dirty sikhs they look like clowns with turban and beard.

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