Ghani rejecting Pakistan’s $500m

[marwat]

List of aircraft of the Pakistan Air Force - Wikipedia

84 F-16's and around 150 -200 JF-17's. Most of them are block 2 which comes with improvements like air to air refueling and is 4th generation jet . While Block 3 has further significant additions like aesa radars and is 4.5 generation . Rest are dissault mirages and F-7's (which will retire soon ) .

your past shows your claims are not so good to stand when questioned and analysed critically. it was 600 fighter jets just recently and now by your own admission it comes to 84 plus 150 to 200. let's make this narrow down more.
let me analyze the wiki source given for the 150-200 jf17 jigures. problem with the wiki is it does not reflect the actual source content which is used to back up a data. let's see
wiki has provided two sources for the f-16 figure, one the diplomat when pakistan bought 13 F-16 aircraft from Jordan. and it says

The purchase brings the Pakistan Air Force’s total F-16 count to 76.

the diplomat
other is tribune which assume the 8 aircraft US promised.

PAF currently operates 76 F-16 fighters. The latest sale, if it goes through, will boost the fleet to 84 aircraft.

tribune
but we both know the deal never went through, so currently PAF has 76 aircraft not 84. right?
now let's examine jf-17 figure and the source made to back up the 150-200 figure. two sources are provided but carefully examining the sources it's daylight clear that sources says something else.
first is quwa.org dated 7 dec 2016 just two days ago, here is what it says

Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) delivered a total of 70 JF-17 Block-I and Block-II multi-role fighters to the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) since the fighter’s induction in the PAF in 2010-2011 (Radio Pakistan).

The figure was released by PAC during a hearing with the National Assembly’s Standing Committee on Defence Production on Wednesday, 07 December.

Currently, the PAF has a firm requirement for 150 JF-17s divided across three production blocks, i.e. Block-I, Block-II, and Block-III.

Recent news reports posit that the PAF intends to increase this requirement to 250 units, which, despite being mentioned frequently, has yet to see direct confirmation from the PAF.

one with akhroat brain can even conclude that 250 is PAF requirement, and actual number of JF-17 in service is 70
the other source radio pakistan says the same thing

Pakistan Aeronautical Complex has handed over seventy JF-17 fighter jets to Pakistan Air Force for its operational activities.

so it comes down to this from 600 fighter jet claim to this.
F-16: 76
JF-17: 70

not all of them are operational ready. these heavy machinery need a lot of maintenance and repair work spanning months. at any given time one third or half of them are ready to fly and perform.

operational ready figure
F-16: 30
JF-17 : zero lol as it is junk
look this is not defence.pk where other fella will inflate your ego and will clap for your claims, here we make sure you eat the dust.
[MENTION=18842]Samandri[/MENTION]

[marwat]

peshawar 222 thought he will get away with pooping in a mosque . lol please claim another thing now.

[Samandri]

your past shows your claims are not so good to stand when questioned and analysed critically. it was 600 fighter jets just recently and now by your own admission it comes to 84 plus 150 to 200. let's make this narrow down more.
let me analyze the wiki source given for the 150-200 jf17 jigures. problem with the wiki is it does not reflect the actual source content which is used to back up a data. let's see
wiki has provided two sources for the f-16 figure, one the diplomat when pakistan bought 13 F-16 aircraft from Jordan. and it says
the diplomat
other is tribune which assume the 8 aircraft US promised.
tribune
but we both know the deal never went through, so currently PAF has 76 aircraft not 84. right?
now let's examine jf-17 figure and the source made to back up the 150-200 figure. two sources are provided but carefully examining the sources it's daylight clear that sources says something else.
first is quwa.org dated 7 dec 2016 just two days ago, here is what it says




one with akhroat brain can even conclude that 250 is PAF requirement, and actual number of JF-17 in service is 70
the other source radio pakistan says the same thing

so it comes down to this from 600 fighter jet claim to this.
F-16: 76
JF-17: 70

not all of them are operational ready. these heavy machinery need a lot of maintenance and repair work spanning months. at any given time one third or half of them are ready to fly and perform.

operational ready figure
F-16: 30
JF-17 : zero lol as it is junk
look this is not defence.pk where other fella will inflate your ego and will clap for your claims, here we make sure you eat the dust.
@Samandri

You have butchered him with your analysis of his claims.....this guy is very dishonest and just a copy paste-er of links with no critical thinking and reasoning .

As pointed out by Ifreetzai , this guy has no independent thoughts and views, intellectually he is dull....and as pointed out by Manzerah, he thinks its a football match between Afghanistan and Pakistan, he has to shout and cheer louder for his country.

[Peshawer_222]

You have butchered him with your analysis of his claims.....this guy is very dishonest and just a copy paste-er of links with no critical thinking and reasoning .

As pointed out by Ifreetzai , this guy has no independent thoughts and views, intellectually he is dull....and as pointed out by Manzerah, he thinks its a football match between Afghanistan and Pakistan, he has to shout and cheer louder for his country.

If its not a football match what are you doing putting all your energies in opening up anti-Pakistan threads and shouting for team Afghan ?

Your thinking is to bash Pakistan every oppurtunity you get without using your brains . Remember you are the one here with claims like ' we are in control of our lands ' . Most of the posters here(Indcluding you) live mentaly in ahmad shah abdali's era thinking he is riding horses around and conquering Sub continent .

[Kakar-Wardak]

If its not a football match what are you doing putting all your energies in opening up anti-Pakistan threads and shouting for team Afghan ?

Your thinking is to bash Pakistan every oppurtunity you get without using your brains . Remember you are the one here with claims like ' we are in control of our lands ' . Most of the posters here(Indcluding you) live mentaly in ahmad shah abdali's era thinking he is riding horses around and conquering Sub continent .

Punjabi if it wasn't for Abdali you would be a slave of Hindus today.

[Peshawer_222]

peshawar 222 thought he will get away with pooping in a mosque . lol please claim another thing now.

You are the desperate one claiming nobody wants it when Nigeria and Myanmar has already ordered them with Saudi Arabia also interested in Block 3 . Then you get ignorant about FATA thinking its 2009 and TTP are running around killing soldiers when army is already sitting in Tirrah .

F-16's aren't exactly your forte , you and samandri are better of studying about how Afghanistan was in 1660 . Stick to that .

[Peshawer_222]

Punjabi if it wasn't for Abdali you would be a slave of Hindus today.

Living in History is for losers . Afghans have this habit of living 500 years ago and have cut themselves from reality because it is too harsh to handle .

[Samandri]

Living in History is for losers . Afghans have this habit of living 500 years ago and have cut themselves from reality because it is too harsh to handle .

“Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it.”


― Edmund Burke

[Peshawer_222]

Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it.'

Knowing your History is one thing and mentaly living in it to escape hard realities of life is another . That day I saw one joker Mashal khan takkar . That guy actually thinks Afghanistan's boundaries are till attock and that he will go to netherlands in court of justice to file a petition against Pakistan to get back those lands . He was swearing on his yousafzai's mother that he will get it back because 300 years ago it was pashtun land .

You and marwat are basically cut from the same cloth .

[Elite Pakhtun]

I don't think either of them are suggesting breaking off kpk and b to join Afghanistan.

[Samandri]

Knowing your History is one thing and mentaly living in it to escape hard realities of life is another . .

Mommy-daddy Burger of Beaconhouse, i dont think you know much about 'hard' and 'harsh' realities of life.

[Peshawer_222]

Mommy-daddy Burger of Beaconhouse, i dont think you know much about 'hard' and 'harsh' realities of life.

Whats your beef with beaconhouse ? Alot of Kaliwaal hate such places for no reason . You will probably have the time of your life if you are not a big racist and have an open mind to different people .

[dawn]

not all of them are operational ready. these heavy machinery need a lot of maintenance and repair work spanning months. at any given time one third or half of them are ready to fly and perform.

operational ready figure
F-16: 30
JF-17 : zero lol as it is junk
look this is not defence.pk where other fella will inflate your ego and will clap for your claims, here we make sure you eat the dust.
[MENTION=18842]Samandri[/MENTION]

Source for your claims? Do you know anything about military air crafts or your speciality is afghani donkey tanks?



JF-17 bloc 2 is very good and bloc 3 with AESA radar will be better then even F-16 52.

[marwat]

Source for your claims? Do you know anything about military air crafts or your speciality is afghani donkey tanks?

what source idiot, the figure was an intelligent guess, which your kind are deprived of due to excess of eating dal lol, ask peshawri boy, the figure already made him my bitch

you must have stormed the google though your dal queries and wasted your worthless time to get the picture

JF-17 bloc 2 is very good and bloc 3 with AESA radar will be better then even F-16 52.

yeah better than f-16 just like a dall plate is better than the whole world for you lol
on a serious note ,from the defence.pk i came to know that JF-17 lacks good targeting pod, which no European company want to sell you, without targeting pod it's just a good toy not a fighter jet. yes i don't know much about fighter , but that does not make you specialist in it. you have the same at the moment google search wala knowledge with low iq than me.

[dawn]

what source idiot, the figure was an intelligent guess, which your kind are deprived of due to excess of eating dal lol, ask peshawri boy, the figure already made him my bitch


you must have stormed the google though your dal queries and wasted your worthless time to get the picture

yeah better than f-16 just like a dall plate is better than the whole world for you lol
on a serious note ,from the defence.pk i came to know that JF-17 lacks good targeting pod, which no European company want to sell you, without targeting pod it's just a good toy not a fighter jet. yes i don't know much about fighter , but that does not make you specialist in it. you have the same at the moment google search wala knowledge with low iq than me.

Intelligent guess from you? Targetting POD is used for ground attacks like hideouts of your relatives in TTP. JF-17 was designed for air to air attack when TTP didn't exist but it will get targeting POD in near future. I don't make intelligent guess on things I don't know. Looks like you didn't even knew what targeting POD was.

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