Ghani rejecting Pakistan’s $500m

[Friends of Baloch]

Putrid aka porus

You have a classic case of the Stockholm syndrome..The sikhs you love so much raped and killed your muslim punjabi and kashmiri ancestors. The Dogra Hindus did much worse to the kashmiris. Perhaps you've accepted your role as the designated hole for all Sikhs and Hindus to have fun with. But stop asking me why I won't kiss up to hairy ape Sikhs or pencil **** Hindus.

0% chance you are Pakistani or even a mid range caste Hindu. Your pita ji probobaly shined shoes for a living outside of Dehli rail station before he won a visa lottery you gandu.

Lol at these Dravidians fighting with each other on the internet! It is great to see Black on Black crime when it is these punjab sons of Ranjeet Singh throwing a tantrum at each other about who is less Sikh than the other!

[Sher-E-Punjab]

President Mohammad Ashraf Ghani said Wednesday that Afghanistan wants dignified relations with its neighbors and not charity, days after he rejected Pakistan’s $500 million aid during the Heart of Asia conference.


Speaking during a campaign held for the Afghan youths, President Ghani said “Afghanistan will live with dignity and will not ask for charity from anyone.”

His remarks were apparently aimed at the rejection of $500 million in aid pledged by Pakistan for the reconstruction of Afghanistan during the Brussels summit.

President Ghani further added that Afghanistan is not facing an internal conflict but is on the frontline of an international war.

He did not elaborate further regarding the international war being waged in the country but his remarks were apparently aimed at the ‘undeclared war’ term being frequently used by him to reflect Pakistan’s support to Afghan militant groups.
However, President Ghani said Afghanistan is currently at the center point of the international community attention and vowed that the country will be rebuilt, insisting that this will go ahead ‘whether the enemy likes or not’.

President Ghani said during his speech at the 6th Heart of Asia conference on Sunday that “Despite our intense engagement with Pakistan on bilateral and multilateral basis, the undeclared war – the name that I gave to the phenomenon in the winter 2014 – not only has not abated but also intensified during 2016, with special intensity right after the Brussels Conference.”

Dignified relations by taking money from US and India. LMAO

[dawn]

India didn't even have to ask. You failing to bring the Taliban to talks, or just get rid of them.

This is the thing. Why doesn't Pakistan just hang the Haqqanis? What are you so afraid of? Hang them. Get it over with. What's stopping you? You think Afghanistan will continue to fund terror if you release your hand from her throat? Afghanistan doesn't have the means or will to attack Pakistan. Every attack which is traced back to Afghanistan is done in retaliation to Pak Military policy.

As for 'Hindu writing speech' I mean, that shows everyone just how little Pakistanis know about politics or how the world works generally. Ghani hates Pakistan enough to write it himself, he doesn't need a Hindu to do it.

I think Afghans hate Pakistanis far more than Indians could ever hate us. If an Indian meets us, they'll try to find common ground, they'll be happy to meet us and speak in the same language. Afghans on the other hand will always see you with suspicion, if not hate, they'll always be weary of you. To them you're a bandit/gangster state, with absolutely zero shame.

Why should Pakistan hang innocent Afghans? Let them go back and then ANA can hang them. Don't expect Pakistan to be part of this slaughter. Let them deal with civil war themselves. What Pakistan can do is repatriate afghan muhajirs and improve border control. From next year every Afghani will need visa to enter Pakistan for what ever reason.

Ghani was normal Afghan, rumours has it ISI helped him win elections. But he eventually had to change because ANA is one calling the shots in Afghanistan now. And ANA is sponsored by hindu extremists who dream of akhand bharat. Abdullah Abdullah wife and kids live and study in India of all places.

Indians don't need to love us, they need to treat their own muslims better first. I don't know what you expect Indians to do in neutral ground, most of them are midgets like tajiks and would die with one slap from Pakistani hand. Of course they will behave well keeping that in mind.

[Friends of Baloch]

That's not Possible . Didn't happen in 47 , 65 or 99 . All three were pretty much stalemates . To run over a country you need an Israel/Palestine equation . Rather in 65 we pretty much dismantled all their airforce . During Kargil to dislodge a few hundred soldiers from the mountains they had to bring in thousands of soldiers .

Indian army = 1 million
Pakistan = 700000

Indian Airforce = 900 Fighter Jets
Pakistan Airforce = 600 Fighter Jets

Indian Tanks = 5000
Pakistan = 3400

Pakistan Nukes = 120
Indian Nukes = 100

Agni 5 = 5000 KM
Shaheen 3 = 3000 KM

It would be a bloody mess if both indeed went to war once again .

Please do. That would be most excellent.

[dawn]

That's not Possible . Didn't happen in 47 , 65 or 99 . All three were pretty much stalemates . To run over a country you need an Israel/Palestine equation . Rather in 65 we pretty much dismantled all their airforce . During Kargil to dislodge a few hundred soldiers from the mountains they had to bring in thousands of soldiers .

Indian army = 1 million
Pakistan = 700000

Indian Airforce = 900 Fighter Jets
Pakistan Airforce = 600 Fighter Jets

Indian Tanks = 5000
Pakistan = 3400

Pakistan Nukes = 120
Indian Nukes = 100

Agni 5 = 5000 KM
Shaheen 3 = 3000 KM

It would be a bloody mess if both indeed went to war once again .

I said eventually, this is why Pakistan developed tactical nukes to strike them in our own territory. 1965 was different era. If Ayub Khan joined China when they fought India in 1962 then IoK may have been part of Pakistan now.

Lets see in future someone 100 times worse then Modi is in power who dream of akhand bharat from Sri Lanka to Afghanistan. With so many people and resources they can rise army which is 10 times more then Pakistan. Their airforce, navy are already better then Pakistan.

India didn't intervene in Bangladesh till advantage was 50-1 in their favor.

Field Marshal Sam Manekshaw on 1971 India-Pakistan War

"About the 5th day of the (1971) conflict in (East Pakistan)...everything had gone wrong (for India); the (Indian) Navy had lost the Khukri; Our (India) Air Force has lost a lot of aircraft on the ground; my (Indian Army's) advances in Bangladesh were halted......The Pakistan Army in East Pakistan fought very gallantly but they had no chance; they were a thousand miles away from their base; I had 8 or 9 months of preparation; I had almost 50:1 advantage; they had no chance but they fought very gallantly."

Haq's Musings: Field Marshal Sam Manekshaw on 1971 India-Pakistan War - YouTube

[Peshawer_222]

I said eventually, this is why Pakistan developed tactical nukes to strike them in our own territory. 1965 was different era. If Ayub Khan joined China when they fought India in 1962 then IoK may have been part of Pakistan now.

Lets see in future someone 100 times worse then Modi is in power who dream of akhand bharat from Sri Lanka to Afghanistan. With so many people and resources they can rise army which is 10 times more then Pakistan. Their airforce, navy are already better then Pakistan.

India didn't intervene in Bangladesh till advantage was 50-1 in their favor.

Field Marshal Sam Manekshaw on 1971 India-Pakistan War

"About the 5th day of the (1971) conflict in (East Pakistan)...everything had gone wrong (for India); the (Indian) Navy had lost the Khukri; Our (India) Air Force has lost a lot of aircraft on the ground; my (Indian Army's) advances in Bangladesh were halted......The Pakistan Army in East Pakistan fought very gallantly but they had no chance; they were a thousand miles away from their base; I had 8 or 9 months of preparation; I had almost 50:1 advantage; they had no chance but they fought very gallantly."

Haq's Musings: Field Marshal Sam Manekshaw on 1971 India-Pakistan War - YouTube

Winning 71 was impossible . Not even US would have won that war . You cannot win if you are 3000 km apart and a big fat enemy is sitting between you . Might have been a blessing in disguise , as Pakistan is much stronger now . Henry Kissinger's publications recently revealed that Yahya khan was going to give them independance in 1972 eventually .

Meanwhile their own Generals are accepting they lost Kargil .

[Elite Pakhtun]

unfortunate for us but that is alright. **** happens. this is life. we will pull ourselves through it and if we don't there will be a lesson in it for us to learn from. not so unfortunate for people like you who are just sitting on the edge of their seats, fanning the flames and drooling about having us scatter in to pieces.

Nobody has a desire to see Afghanistan scatter into pieces. Is there some propaganda telling you otherwise?

There is, though, a desire to prevent indiots from using you guys as a means to **** around with our western border. That was the reason behind strategic depth.

[marwat]

That's not Possible . Didn't happen in 47 , 65 or 99 . All three were pretty much stalemates . To run over a country you need an Israel/Palestine equation . Rather in 65 we pretty much dismantled all their airforce . During Kargil to dislodge a few hundred soldiers from the mountains they had to bring in thousands of soldiers .

Indian army = 1 million
Pakistan = 700000

Indian Airforce = 900 Fighter Jets
Pakistan Airforce = 600 Fighter Jets

Indian Tanks = 5000
Pakistan = 3400

Pakistan Nukes = 120
Indian Nukes = 100

Agni 5 = 5000 KM
Shaheen 3 = 3000 KM

It would be a bloody mess if both indeed went to war once again .

Pakistan has 600 fighter jets?? Let me correct you. Pakistan has 76 f-16 pieces only, by only admission can be called fighter jets. Some100 jf17 which does not qualify to be called a fighter jet. Are you by any chance referring to trainee aircraft as fighter jets? Mirage don't count know.

[Peshawer_222]

Pakistan has 600 fighter jets?? Let me correct you. Pakistan has 76 f-16 pieces only, by only admission can be called fighter jets. Some100 jf17 which does not qualify to be called a fighter jet. Are you by any chance referring to trainee aircraft as fighter jets? Mirage don't count know.

List of aircraft of the Pakistan Air Force - Wikipedia

84 F-16's and around 150 -200 JF-17's. Most of them are block 2 which comes with improvements like air to air refueling and is 4th generation jet . While Block 3 has further significant additions like aesa radars and is 4.5 generation . Rest are dissault mirages and F-7's (which will retire soon ) .

[Kakar-Wardak]

List of aircraft of the Pakistan Air Force - Wikipedia

84 F-16's and around 150 -200 JF-17's. Most of them are block 2 which comes with improvements like air to air refueling and is 4th generation jet . While Block 3 has further significant additions like aesa radars and is 4.5 generation . Rest are dissault mirages and F-7's (which will retire soon ) .

Jf-17 is not tested, F16 is a quality plane which has shown it's worth world over, Indians all their planes are tested and will slaughter PAF in A war today or tomorrow.

[Peshawer_222]

Jf-17 is not tested, F16 is a quality plane which has shown it's worth world over, Indians all their planes are tested and will slaughter PAF in A war today or tomorrow.

F-16's are better than their Sukhoi's . While JF-17 has been tested in zarb-e-azb and even had export orders . Meanwhile their Tejas aircraft has yet to be included in their squadrons . India lost both 1965 and 1971 air wars quite badly . IAF's current serviceability is only 40 % . Most of their planes are not fit to fly and need alot of maintenance.

[Kakar-Wardak]

[QUOTE=Peshawer_222;800573]F-16's are better than their Sukhoi's . While JF-17 has been tested in zarb-e-azb and even had export orders . Meanwhile their Tejas aircraft has yet to be included in their squadrons . India lost both 1965 and 1971 air wars quite badly . IAF's current serviceability is only 40 % . Most of their planes are not fit to fly and need alot of maintenance.

I'm not talking about that ****ty tejas, Su-30, migs, Rafael have been proven world over, only thing jf17 has done is bomb houses of poor Pashtuns.

[Peshawer_222]

[QUOTE=Kakar-Wardak;800574]

F-16's are better than their Sukhoi's . While JF-17 has been tested in zarb-e-azb and even had export orders . Meanwhile their Tejas aircraft has yet to be included in their squadrons . India lost both 1965 and 1971 air wars quite badly . IAF's current serviceability is only 40 % . Most of their planes are not fit to fly and need alot of maintenance.

I'm not talking about that ****ty tejas, Su-30, migs, Rafael have been proven world over, only thing jf17 has done is bomb houses of poor Pashtuns.

Rafael will not arrive to India before 2020 . By then Pakistan will be thinking of acquiring J-20 or Su-35 .

[Samandri]

Jf-17 is not tested, F16 is a quality plane which has shown it's worth world over, Indians all their planes are tested and will slaughter PAF in A war today or tomorrow.

It is well know that this Chinese Jet JF-17 has no taker in the world, and China itself has not inducted this 'kattara' Jet in its fleet........Pakistan claims that JF-17 is as good as F-16 but is totally relying on second hand F-16 instead of their "sarmaya-i-ifitkhar"............

Pakistan claim that JF-17 is their ingenuity but they are importing the most important part, the jet engine, from Russia for it. If Russai refuse to sell them Jet engines, their whole program is done for.

They talk about this "gagrra" Jet all the time on defence.pk, moaning why no one is buying it....so i have learnt a thing or two about this Jet

[Peshawer_222]

It is well know that this Chinese Jet JF-17 has no taker in the world, and China itself has not inducted this 'kattara' Jet in its fleet........Pakistan claims that JF-17 is as good as F-16 but is totally relying on second hand F-16 instead of their "sarmaya-i-ifitkhar"............

Pakistan claim that JF-17 is their ingenuity but they are exporting the most important part, the jet engine, from Russia for it. If Russai refuse to sell them Jet engines, their whole program is done for.

They talk about this "gagrra" Jet all the time on defence.pk, moaning why no one is buying it....so i have learnt a thing or two about this Jet

It has 3 buyers so far and the deal has been signed with planes ready to be delivered to respective countries by the end of year . 70 % of it is made inside Kamra . PAC currently has a capacity of manufacturing 25 jets a year .