Taliban hang university student in wardak

[marwat]

Why should we believe Talilban's version of events or their reasoning behind this act? How did Taliban came to the conclusion that he was guilty? Are Taliban's shuras, their scholars, their rulings etc in accordance with sharia and the will of the Afghan people? Who overlooks these decisions made by these people? Are they answerable to anyone at all to make sure real justice is served and not revenge killings?
I am not saying the puppet government is the legitimate source of Law and order and their extra judicial killings which BarakzaiAbadali mentioned in another thread should be scrutinized with same rigor otherwise we will be stuck in a vicious cycle of killings and revenge killings.

you should not, but you need to know their version of events regarding the hanging, then decide for yourself, otherwise you are feeding yourself government propaganda.
suppose their rulings are not in accordance with sharia or the will of people, now what? should they let go a guilty person? had he been hanged by some local talib commander on his own, you should ask this question, otherwise talib are the biggest stakeholder and they have their own version of ruling whether sharia complaint or not.
Are they answerable to anyone at all to make sure real justice is served and not revenge killings?
had it been revenge killing, he would not have been hanged and publicized,rather shot dead and thrown by some local talib commander, why would the local talib risk his own death by publicizing it? sure the main shura would take notice of the incident and would investigate.

How did Taliban came to the conclusion that he was guilty?
this is absurd question, how did law take it's course in other countries?
taliban facebook page has posted about the incident with detail. he was spying for government and had hand in killing one of the commander in wardak province known by name Doctor Mirawas
here is the link
nunn.asia - طالبان وايي د خپل قومندان <<ډاکټر میرویس>> قاتل... | Facebook

[marwat]

Afghani pashtuns are being slaughtered like animals by ANA. We need to look at both sides to understand this conflict.

you have no sympathies with pashtun at all whether killed by ANA or taliban. civil war in afghanistan is pako cockroaches wishes

[Peshawer_222]

you should not, but you need to know their version of events regarding the hanging, then decide for yourself, otherwise you are feeding yourself government propaganda.
suppose their rulings are not in accordance with sharia or the will of people, now what? should they let go a guilty person? had he been hanged by some local talib commander on his own, you should ask this question, otherwise talib are the biggest stakeholder and they have their own version of ruling whether sharia complaint or not.
Are they answerable to anyone at all to make sure real justice is served and not revenge killings?
had it been revenge killing, he would not have been hanged and publicized,rather shot dead and thrown by some local talib commander, why would the local talib risk his own death by publicizing it? sure the main shura would take notice of the incident and would investigate.

How did Taliban came to the conclusion that he was guilty?
this is absurd question, how did law take it's course in other countries?
taliban facebook page has posted about the incident with detail. he was spying for government and had hand in killing one of the commander in wardak province known by name Doctor Mirawas
here is the link
nunn.asia - طالبان وايي د خپل قومندان <<ډاکټر میرویس>> قاتل... | Facebook

I thought SSG had killed off rats like you . Apparently few sympathizers are left . Wait for a danda in your rear end then .

[Samandri]

I thought SSG had killed off rats like you . Apparently few sympathizers are left . Wait for a danda in your rear end then .

One of the most useless and cowardly commando unit in the world.......instead of embracing 'martyrdom' , they were quick to surrender to Taliban

And after retirement Retired army officer arrested in murder case - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

"According to the police, the incident took place after vehicles of Nazakat and the retired army officer collided. Both men got into a scuffle, but later left the scene. However, later the retired officer along with his associates attacked Nazakat and his two uncles and seriously injured them.
Nazakat died of his injuries at the hospital, the police added."

[dawn]

you have no sympathies with pashtun at all whether killed by ANA or taliban. civil war in afghanistan is pako cockroaches wishes

I like all Pakistanis extend full support to Afghani pashtuns persecuted by ANA.

[Shapur]

you should not, but you need to know their version of events regarding the hanging, then decide for yourself, otherwise you are feeding yourself government propaganda.
suppose their rulings are not in accordance with sharia or the will of people, now what? should they let go a guilty person? had he been hanged by some local talib commander on his own, you should ask this question, otherwise talib are the biggest stakeholder and they have their own version of ruling whether sharia complaint or not.

Fair enough, everyone has the right to speak and present their case.
How can someone be guilty if the ruling is not in accordance with Sharia?
If their rulings are not according to Sharia then what is their legitimacy? isn't the entire point of their existance to implement Sharia? As Muslims, our allegiance should be to the truth and not some group who claim to represent God. When Muslims become complacent and trust the mullahs too much, the system becomes corrupt. Mullahs and scholars just like government officials should be answerable for their acts to an outside body who can keep them on their toes. As they say, "power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely". Have Taliban brought the killers of Najibullah to justice? Let's agree Najibullah was a criminal, still they way he was hanged without a trial is unislamic.

Are they answerable to anyone at all to make sure real justice is served and not revenge killings?
had it been revenge killing, he would not have been hanged and publicized,rather shot dead and thrown by some local talib commander, why would the local talib risk his own death by publicizing it? sure the main shura would take notice of the incident and would investigate.

ok, I accept your point about revenge thing, maybe its not revenge, maybe they publicized it so it can serve as a reminder to others, not to mess with the Talib gang.

How did Taliban came to the conclusion that he was guilty?
this is absurd question, how did law take it's course in other countries?
taliban facebook page has posted about the incident with detail. he was spying for government and had hand in killing one of the commander in wardak province known by name Doctor Mirawas

I can get in trouble for clicking on that link in the UK, can you please elaborate what kind of spy he was and what evidence was presented?
I would ask you to refrain from posting such links here as they could get people who live in the west in trouble.

I think the main point is some people accept Taliban as the legitimate power holders while others don't. Those who do accept their version of Islam have no problem with their acts and see them as legitimate while those who disagree see them as illegal. The real question is how can these two groups find common ground, through gunpoint or dialogue.

[dawn]

One of the most useless and cowardly commando unit in the world.......instead of embracing 'martyrdom' , they were quick to surrender to Taliban

And after retirement Retired army officer arrested in murder case - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

"According to the police, the incident took place after vehicles of Nazakat and the retired army officer collided. Both men got into a scuffle, but later left the scene. However, later the retired officer along with his associates attacked Nazakat and his two uncles and seriously injured them.
Nazakat died of his injuries at the hospital, the police added."

Don't believe in Indian sponsored propaganda. 1 SSG is enough for 30 TTP terrorists as recent operation zarb-e-azb have shown.

[Peshawer_222]

One of the most useless and cowardly commando unit in the world.......instead of embracing 'martyrdom' , they were quick to surrender to Taliban

And after retirement Retired army officer arrested in murder case - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

"According to the police, the incident took place after vehicles of Nazakat and the retired army officer collided. Both men got into a scuffle, but later left the scene. However, later the retired officer along with his associates attacked Nazakat and his two uncles and seriously injured them.
Nazakat died of his injuries at the hospital, the police added."

Here is another guy that needs a danda in his rear end . You wouldn't get elected even if you tried a place for police . Majority of Soldiers used in Zarb -e - azb were SSG . And they killed of those rats like there was no tommorow . NSG took 2 days to kill Mumbai attackers , SSG does it in few Minutes . The selection alone is one of the most gruesome process in the world . Eat's in Pakistan , Sleep's in Pakistan , Uses Pakistan's passport , Studies in Pakistani Universities but is still Namak haram . Your and marwat kind are an embarrassment to any country you belong to .

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[Shamlawar Khurasani]

Fair enough, everyone has the right to speak and present their case.
How can someone be guilty if the ruling is not in accordance with Sharia?
If their rulings are not according to Sharia then what is their legitimacy? isn't the entire point of their existance to implement Sharia? As Muslims, our allegiance should be to the truth and not some group who claim to represent God. When Muslims become complacent and trust the mullahs too much, the system becomes corrupt. Mullahs and scholars just like government officials should be answerable for their acts to an outside body who can keep them on their toes. As they say, "power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely". Have Taliban brought the killers of Najibullah to justice? Let's agree Najibullah was a criminal, still they way he was hanged without a trial is unislamic.




ok, I accept your point about revenge thing, maybe its not revenge, maybe they publicized it so it can serve as a reminder to others, not to mess with the Talib gang.




I can get in trouble for clicking on that link in the UK, can you please elaborate what kind of spy he was and what evidence was presented?
I would ask you to refrain from posting such links here as they could get people who live in the west in trouble.

I think the main point is some people accept Taliban as the legitimate power holders while others don't. Those who do accept their version of Islam have no problem with their acts and see them as legitimate while those who disagree see them as illegal. The real question is how can these two groups find common ground, through gunpoint or dialogue.

Kabul regime fanboys arguing that rulings must be in accordance with Sharia is the best comedy on PF.

[marwat]

Here is another guy that needs a danda in his rear end . You wouldn't get elected even if you tried a place for police . Majority of Soldiers used in Zarb -e - azb were SSG . And they killed of those rats like there was no tommorow . NSG took 2 days to kill Mumbai attackers , SSG does it in few Minutes . The selection alone is one of the most gruesome process in the world . Eat's in Pakistan , Sleep's in Pakistan , Uses Pakistan's passport , Studies in Pakistani Universities but is still Namak haram . Your and marwat kind are an embarrassment to any country you belong to .

The phantom soldiers - The Express Tribune


The 9 most elite special forces in the world | Business Insider

let me put a little curry on your rectum, i actually did engineering degree from pakistan top university and i was fully sponsored by pakistan ICT RnD (National ICT R&D Fund) program. they paid my full tuition fees plus hostel fees plus mess plus monthly pocket stipend. how is that feeling cockroach?

[Shapur]

Kabul regime fanboys arguing that rulings must be in accordance with Sharia is the best comedy on PF.

lol, welcome back. I refer to kabul government as puppet regime so can hardly call me a fanboy. Just because I don't buy everything the Talib gang or its supporters say doesn't make me a Kabul government fanboy. I want the will of the Afghan people to be implemented without foreign interference, period.

[Peshawer_222]

let me put a little curry on your rectum, i actually did engineering degree from pakistan top university and i was fully sponsored by pakistan ICT RnD (National ICT R&D Fund) program. they paid my full tuition fees plus hostel fees plus mess plus monthly pocket stipend. how is that feeling cockroach?

You are a schmuck who hasn't been outside his house basement let alone study in a university . If by some miracle what you say is true then it is even bigger Namak harami on your part .

[DaZahroJaam.]

Kabul regime fanboys arguing that rulings must be in accordance with Sharia is the best comedy on PF.

hey satan's lovechild, i bet you thought you wold disapper for a couple of months and by the time you com back, i would have totally forgotten about this. what do you know, it has been eight weekends since this conversation took place.

http://www.pashtunforums.com/pashto-language-/50397-improve-pashto-beneficial-pashtuns.html#post796094

i want my apology. now.

[marwat]

Fair enough, everyone has the right to speak and present their case.
How can someone be guilty if the ruling is not in accordance with Sharia?
If their rulings are not according to Sharia then what is their legitimacy? isn't the entire point of their existance to implement Sharia? As Muslims, our allegiance should be to the truth and not some group who claim to represent God. When Muslims become complacent and trust the mullahs too much, the system becomes corrupt. Mullahs and scholars just like government officials should be answerable for their acts to an outside body who can keep them on their toes. As they say, "power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely". Have Taliban brought the killers of Najibullah to justice? Let's agree Najibullah was a criminal, still they way he was hanged without a trial is unislamic.




ok, I accept your point about revenge thing, maybe its not revenge, maybe they publicized it so it can serve as a reminder to others, not to mess with the Talib gang.




I can get in trouble for clicking on that link in the UK, can you please elaborate what kind of spy he was and what evidence was presented?
I would ask you to refrain from posting such links here as they could get people who live in the west in trouble.

I think the main point is some people accept Taliban as the legitimate power holders while others don't. Those who do accept their version of Islam have no problem with their acts and see them as legitimate while those who disagree see them as illegal. The real question is how can these two groups find common ground, through gunpoint or dialogue.

shapur friend here is the post, but it's in pashto
طالبان وايي د خپل قومندان «ډاکټر میرویس» قاتل یې اعدام کړ
نشرونکی: عبد الله برخه: افغانستان 2016/12/03
نن ټکی اسیا (شنبه، لېندۍ ۱۳مه، ۱۳۹۵ل): طالبانو دیوې اعلامیې په خپرولو سره ویلي چې د دوی د میدان وردګ ولایت د استخباراتو ولایتي مسؤول ډاکټر میرویس چې څو ورځې وړاندي د یوه بل ملګري سره وژل شوی وو، د قاتل په نیولو بالآخره وتوانېدل او د محکمې د پریکړي سره سم یې اعدام کړ.
ډاکټر میرویس
ډاکټر میرویس
ډاکټر میرویس څوک و؟
د میدان وردګو لپاره د طالبانو والي په یوې اعلامیه کې ډاکټر میرویس د امریکایانو ستر قاتل بللی چې په بریدونو او عملیاتو کې یې په لسګونو بهرني او دولتي عسکر وژلي دي.
اعلامیه لیکي چې دولتي او بهرنیو عسکرو د نوموړي د نیولو یا وژلو په موخه له شلو ډیرې شپنۍ چاپې او هوايي بریدونه ترسره کړي دي.
طالب والي زیاتوي ډاکټر میرویس «په خپله کاري موده کې د مجاهدينو پر ضد د دښمن زيات پلانونه شنډ کړل او دښمن يې له استخباراتي ماتې سره مخ کړ، همدا وجه وه چې دښمن د نوموړي تعقيب هم زيات کړ او د له منځه وړلو لپاره يې بيلابيلې طريقې په کار واچولې چې څو ورځې وړاندې يې د اسلام دغه لوی سپاهی په یوه ناځوانمردانه برید کې په شهادت ورساوو او په رسنیو کې يې هم آوازه واچوله چې دا مجاهد د داعش لخوا وژل شوی دی».faizurrahmanد ډاکټر میرویس قاتل څوک و؟
فیض الرحمن د سیدالرحمن زوی او د وردګو ولایت د سیداباد ولسوالۍ د اونخي درې د یاویز کلي اوسیدونکی و، چې د طالبانو له لوري د دوی د ولایتي استخباراتو د مسؤول د وژنې په تور اعدام شو.
طالبان وايي چې تر ډیرو هڅو وروسته وتوانېدل چې د ډاکټر میرویس او ملګري قاتل یې ونیسي او په اعدام یې محکوم کړي.
له بلې خوا د میدان وردګ ولایت د والي ویاند عبدالرحمن منګل رسنیو ته ویلي چې اعدام شوي کس د کابل پولتخنیک پوهنتون کې زده کړي کولې او د انجنیرۍ پوهنځۍ د لیسانس دورې د څلورم کال محصل و.
د طالبانو د والي په خبرپاڼه کې راغلي: «فيض الرحمن بې له کوم زور او جبر څخه په خپل ترسره کړي جرم او جنایت اعتراف وکړ، نوموړي د خپلو اعترافاتو په لړ کې وویل چې د کابل ادارې د استخباراتو لخوا پنځه لکه افغاني ورکړل شوي ترڅو دغه کار ترسره کړي».
طالبان وايي چې فیض الرحمن ته د ملي امنيت له لوري يوه بې غږه (بې صدا) تفنګچه هم ورکړل شوې وه ترڅو یې په مټ ډاکټر میرویس او ورسره ملګري په تکتیکي ډول ووژني.
په همدې تړاو د طالبانو یوه جګپوړي چارواکي په رسنیو نیوکه کړې چې د یو «جنایتکار» د اعدام له کبله د طالبانو پرضد تبلیغات کوي چې ګواکې د پوهنتون محصل یې وژلی. نوموړي نن ټکی اسیا ته ویلي چې فیض الرحمن که هر څوک و، خو دا د قتل یوه پيښه وه چې په جرم یې قاتل اعدام شو او مسله ختمه شوه. دغه طالب چارواکي زیاته کړې چې فیض الرحمن د یو محصل په توګه نه دی اعدام شوی بلکې د یو جاسوس او قاتل په توګه د اعدام په سزا محکوم شوی. نوموړي وویل چې دوی ډیر افسوس کوي چې ملي امنیت د جاسوسي لپاره د محصلینو څخه کار اخلي.
په میدان وردګ ولایت کې طالبانو ته نږدې سرچینو نن ټکی اسیا ته وویل چې اعدام شوی کس د ډاکټر فاروق وردګ په غوښتنه د ملي امنیت له لوري استخدام شوی و او د طالبانو دغه مشر ته په دستوري ډول ورلیږل شوی و، چې څه موده مخکې وتوانېد تر څو د طالبانو د استخباراتو مسؤول ډاکټر میرویس د خپل ملګري په شمول په بې غږه توفنګچه ووژني.
دغه سرچینو نن ټکی اسیا ته وویل چې فیض الرحمن دوه اړخیزه جاسوس و، هغه د ملي امنیت څخه د حکومتي چارواکو اړوند تر وخت تېر معلومات طالبانو ته رسول تر څو د هغوی اعتماد تر لاسه کړي او همداسي یې د طالبانو معلومات ملي امنیت ته رسول چې بالاخره یې د طالبانو د استخباراتي مسؤول ډاکټر میرویس اعتماد تر لاسه کړی و او هغه د خپلو نورو جنګیالیو څخه لیري په یوازې ځان د نوموړي سره کتل او د معلوماتو تبادله یې ورسره کوله.
سرچینه زیاتوي چې د قتل په ورځ هم ډاکټر میرویس خپل جنګیالیو ته ویلي چې تاسو کښینئ، زه د یو کس سره ګورم او بیرته راځم، خو کله چې وځنډېد او ملګري یې ورغلل، ویې لیدل چې ډاکټر میرویس د موټر په مخکې سیټ کې او یو بل ملګری یې په موټر کې وژل شوي پراته وو او داسي ښکارېده چې د شا سیټ له خوا پرې ډزي شوي وي.
د سرچینې په وینا د طالبانو د استخباراتي ادارې مسؤولینو فیض الرحمن تشخیص کړی و او په همدې تړاو یې بالاخره ونیو او تر محکمې وروسته یې په اعدام محکوم کړ.
طالبانو ویلي چې د محکمې په دوران کې نوموړي په خپل جرم اعتراف کړی چې ډېر ژر به یې اسناد نشر ته وسپارل شي.

[marwat]

You are a schmuck who hasn't been outside his house basement let alone study in a university . If by some miracle what you say is true then it is even bigger Namak harami on your part .

dude mine iq is 60 plus your , your's father iq. you want me to post nts ict test result card clearly written qualified over it?
janitor you are jealous of me. now go back and clean the toilet handed to you at some Malaysian airport