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  • #46
    Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View Post
    You know what I just realized? The fact you keep desperately searching for cherry picked pictures that attempt to make Islamabad "look cool" shows that you';re very insecure of its slums and low rent areas, which is the majority

    All I have to do is go to Google Maps and I find that most of Islamabad looks like this; You can't fool anyone with Edited Photos

    Google Maps
    I love the city and live there . Neither can you fool official facts and figures .

    Peshawar classified as one of the poorest provincial capitals - The Express Tribune

    Poverty in Islamabad is only 3.1 % according to United Nations . Its only made for rich and upper class people . It's a planned city made to look like that .

    Islamabad — a city only for the rich? - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

    A Normal house in Islamabad would cost you around $500000 . A good house is anywhere from $ 1 million -2 million with F and E sectors having houses worth $ 3-4 million .

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Peshawer_222 View Post
      Nobody is forcing anyone to believe in anything . Its delusional people like you seeing tolo news and shamshad tv who has gotten you brainwashed and when you face the reality you feel offended . No self respecting Pakistani pashtun will put ethnicity before Pakistan . You are free to come here during our national days and see how Pashtuns celebrate being a Pakistani . But again you are brainwashed so no use
      First of all being nationalistic is haraam in Islam, the Prophet pbuh forbid it, this is why many nationalistic Pashtuns are atheists. You obviously do not know what being a Pashtun is (if you are even one) your father did not teach you the basics. When we are young our fathers give our identity and tell us we are Pashtun, they explain what honour it is etc, your daddy sat you on his lap and said your a paki and sang the national farsi anthem to you LOL
      Pashtuns are people with pride and Ghairat, all the historical Pashtun legends put Pashtun before nationality.. You idiots put Urdu before Pashto aswel the 'dumb and simple pathans" .. according to your statement Rahman baba, Khushal Khan Khattack, Wazir Akbar and so forth were not "self respecting". Educate yourself.

      You type of people feel inferior to your Punjabi and Urdu counterparts and desperately try your best to fit in, they ride the donkey, to prove yourself worthy you jump on the donkeys head. Pathetic imbecile you are the ones that give your daughters to other races just because they fool you with the Pakistanyat talk.
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      *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

      Originally posted by Karachi
      like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Peshawer_222 View Post
        I love the city and live there . Neither can you fool official facts and figures .

        Peshawar classified as one of the poorest provincial capitals - The Express Tribune

        Poverty in Islamabad is only 3.1 % according to United Nations . Its only made for rich and upper class people . It's a planned city made to look like that .

        Islamabad — a city only for the rich? - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

        A Normal house in Islamabad would cost you around $500000 . A good house is anywhere from $ 1 million -2 million with F and E sectors having houses worth $ 3-4 million .


        Like we care, Islamabad is a city for generals and politicians, not for the average pakistani, if pakistan is such a great country than why are thousands of Pakistanis pretending to be afghans in order to get asylum in Europe?

        Even the educated burgers flee the country and become doctors and engineers in The west, India is no different they hype their country up yet millions of Indians are invading the west with their apu accents.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Manzareh View Post
          First of all being nationalistic is haraam in Islam, the Prophet pbuh forbid it, this is why many nationalistic Pashtuns are atheists. You obviously do not know what being a Pashtun is (if you are even one) your father did not teach you the basics. When we are young our fathers give our identity and tell us we are Pashtun, they explain what honour it is etc, your daddy sat you on his lap and said your a paki and sang the national farsi anthem to you LOL
          Pashtuns are people with pride and Ghairat, all the historical Pashtun legends put Pashtun before nationality.. You idiots put Urdu before Pashto aswel the 'dumb and simple pathans" .. according to your statement Rahman baba, Khushal Khan Khattack, Wazir Akbar and so forth were not "self respecting". Educate yourself.

          You type of people feel inferior to your Punjabi and Urdu counterparts and desperately try your best to fit in, they ride the donkey, to prove yourself worthy you jump on the donkeys head. Pathetic imbecile you are the ones that give your daughters to other races just because they fool you with the Pakistanyat talk.
          And let me ask you again the same question that I ask all Afghans? Where did ghairat get you ? One look at yourself will tell you where you guys stand compared to People in Punjab . I say Punjab because its a reference point for all Afghans that hate Pakistan . Let me give you a good dose of reality on the pride Pashtuns feel being a Pakistani .



          [youtube]_lokMpR689g[/youtbe]


          One of the most Patriotic Pakistani I know is this man .

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Peshawer_222 View Post
            No self respecting Pakistani pashtun will put ethnicity before Pakistan .

            So in Pakistani Nationalist logic, a self respecting Pashtun, by your own admission, puts a manufactured identity that he was indoctrinated with through strategic conditioning programs into over his actual heritage. You have the concept of self respect totally ass-backwards sir.

            Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


            Originally posted by ذو الفقار
            don’t try to be smart.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View Post
              So in Pakistani Nationalist logic, a self respecting Pashtun, by your own admission, puts a manufactured identity that he was indoctrinated with through strategic conditioning programs into over his actual heritage. You have the concept of self respect totally ass-backwards sir.
              Let me Ask you something ? Are you Pashtun ? Tajik ? Uzbek ? So for you what comes first Tajik or Afghanistan?

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Peshawer_222 View Post
                I love the city and live there . Neither can you fool official facts and figures .

                Peshawar classified as one of the poorest provincial capitals - The Express Tribune

                Poverty in Islamabad is only 3.1 % according to United Nations . Its only made for rich and upper class people . It's a planned city made to look like that .

                Islamabad — a city only for the rich? - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

                A Normal house in Islamabad would cost you around $500000 . A good house is anywhere from $ 1 million -2 million with F and E sectors having houses worth $ 3-4 million .


                I'll hand it to ya; Pakistan is willing to squander millions of dollars on cosmetic campaigns just so random Afghans on the internet won't cause emotional distress and grief that triggers insecure Paki nationalists to join other forums as a defense mechanism.

                Buddy; 4/10 Pakistanis live under a dollar a day and you expect us to believe people in shanty towns in Islamabad are living in million dollar houses; These are lies you tell yourself to sleep at night lol Don't waste my time with cherry picked photoedited pictures or glossy productions through selected streets. Google Maps tells the truth.

                Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                don’t try to be smart.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Peshawer_222 View Post
                  Let me Ask you something ? Are you Pashtun ? Tajik ? Uzbek ? So for you what comes first Tajik or Afghanistan?
                  I'm not even a Nationalist; but if you must know I am Half Pashtun from my father's side and half Arab from my mother's side. I identify as Pashtun as ethnicity is patrilineal. Afghanistan does not come first; but the welfare of Tajiks, Uzbeks, Hazaras and everyone else is higher than my identity as Pashtun or my allegiance to a nation; there's a difference.

                  Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                  Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                  don’t try to be smart.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Peshawer_222 View Post
                    And let me ask you again the same question that I ask all Afghans? Where did ghairat get you ? One look at yourself will tell you where you guys stand compared to People in Punjab . I say Punjab because its a reference point for all Afghans that hate Pakistan . Let me give you a good dose of reality on the pride Pashtuns feel being a Pakistani .
                    Loool so you admit you have no ghairat, case closed.

                    Your question is a stupid question, ghairat is the reason why we still have Pashto as our language, why we still have our own culture..if we never had ghairat we woulda lost our identity like the Tajiks Uzbeks etc which can only relate to previous invaders such as Persians and Mongols, ghairat is the reason Great Britain got defeated in Afghanistan in 3 seperate wars while they walks through indics like you. Ghairat is the reason America and 42 countries could not colonise us. If NATO, Russia or America fought you pakis you would not last one week, all of you're politicians are currupt rishfat khor losers, all you're politicians are criminals, you can't lie to everyone.
                    People with your mindset that have zero ghairat get walked upon, I rather live one day like a lion than a thousands years of a coward like you, tomorrow if Pakistan collapses you will look to another master because like a prostitue all you will do is look for another pimp to provide you with comfort. You carry on worshiping the dunya, tomorow you will be dead even if you wrap your dead corpse in a Pakistani flag still you will have to answer to God.
                    I'm from the Pakistan side btw and I say fcuk Jinnah and your silly Pakistaniyat. Number 1 I am a Muslim and Number 2 I am a Pashtun. Simple. Now live and let live stop spamming the forum with your Pakistaniyat, if people love it then good if they don't then why is your ass burning..live and let live like you say.
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                    *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

                    Originally posted by Karachi
                    like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Manzareh View Post
                      Loool so you admit you have no ghairat, case closed.

                      Your question is a stupid question, ghairat is the reason why we still have Pashto as our language, why we still have our own culture..if we never had ghairat we woulda lost our identity like the Tajiks Uzbeks etc which can only relate to previous invaders such as Persians and Mongols, ghairat is the reason Great Britain got defeated in Afghanistan in 3 seperate wars while they walks through indics like you. Ghairat is the reason America and 42 countries could not colonise us. If NATO, Russia or America fought you pakis you would not last one week, all of you're politicians are currupt rishfat khor losers, all you're politicians are criminals, you can't lie to everyone.
                      People with your mindset that have zero ghairat get walked upon, I rather live one day like a lion than a thousands years of a coward like you, tomorrow if Pakistan collapses you will look to another master because like a prostitue all you will do is look for another pimp to provide you with comfort. You carry on worshiping the dunya, tomorow you will be dead even if you wrap your dead corpse in a Pakistani flag still you will have to answer to God.
                      I'm from the Pakistan side btw and I say fcuk Jinnah and your silly Pakistaniyat. Number 1 I am a Muslim and Number 2 I am a Pashtun. Simple. Now live and let live stop spamming the forum with your Pakistaniyat, if people love it then good if they don't then why is your ass burning..live and let live like you say.
                      Have Ghairat on real things . Like sending your girls to education , Letting your wifes go for jobs . Afghanistan cannot defeat Somalia or Chad . Its an occupied country . Get real . It was occupied by Russia , Then Occupied by America and Pakistan has held Afghanistan by its throat for decades now . Pakistan will fall ? Sure in Your wet dreams maybe .

                      Nobody is Spamming anywhere . You guys are just butthurt that a pashtun is Supporting Pakistan. If I Post a single thing I get quoted by 10 people and I have to reply to alot of them .

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View Post
                        I'll hand it to ya; Pakistan is willing to squander millions of dollars on cosmetic campaigns just so random Afghans on the internet won't cause emotional distress and grief that triggers insecure Paki nationalists to join other forums as a defense mechanism.

                        Buddy; 4/10 Pakistanis live under a dollar a day and you expect us to believe people in shanty towns in Islamabad are living in million dollar houses; These are lies you tell yourself to sleep at night lol Don't waste my time with cherry picked photoedited pictures or glossy productions through selected streets. Google Maps tells the truth.
                        Thats Nawaz Sharif 's way of development . Our total 6 lane expressway length will be around 2000 KM soon. We even have expressways connecting our hill resorts which are 8000 feet above sea level . His idea of development is 6 lane roads , orange metro trains and skyscrapers .

                        Then we have have billionares like Malik riaz who is making bahria towns all over Pakistan . Its a housing society spread over km's that resembles Sharjah/Abu Dhabi . I dont know how wise is to spend so much money on such projects but it is what it is .

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Peshawer_222 View Post
                          Have Ghairat on real things . Like sending your girls to education , Letting your wifes go for jobs . Afghanistan cannot defeat Somalia or Chad . Its an occupied country . Get real . It was occupied by Russia , Then Occupied by America and Pakistan has held Afghanistan by its throat for decades now . Pakistan will fall ? Sure in Your wet dreams maybe .

                          Nobody is Spamming anywhere . You guys are just butthurt that a pashtun is Supporting Pakistan. If I Post a single thing I get quoted by 10 people and I have to reply to alot of them .
                          No one is butthurt because this is the Internet, you could be anyone, there's plenty of nationalistic Pakistani Pashtuns and there is plenty of anti Pakistan Pashtuns that are from Pakistan. Personally I reckon your actually an Indian to be honest; because never before have I come accross a Pakistani nationalist that ignores Indians in his face that are putting Pakistan down like the many Indian users that we have in the forum, instead you ignore them and focus on Afghanistan. This is very very strange behaviour, it would only make sense to ignore your common rival (India) if indeed you are an indic yourself.

                          "When I post a single thing" stfu 1 thing, that's all you post, you probly have Jinnah underpants and a Pakistani flag on your toilet seat the way you are acting, your conversations and brain are very limited, you do not speak about anything else but this Pakistan BS, almost like a robot.

                          Ghairat on real things?? Lol I suppose your culture, identity and language is not real?? lol get a grip of yourself dude, you are making a fool out of yourself, living in a fairytale because your in a poxy room in Islamabad typing away thinking you are better than everyone else. Live the struggle of our people before opening your mouth and making fun of poverty, trust me people like you that are arrogant get fcuked up sooner or later, because God will take away your blessings just so you get humble.

                          Subject of girls education is one thing, seems you do not have an education yourself as you don't seem to grasp the basic concept of things even when they are taught to you in the most simplest ways. Afghanistan has been through countless wars and invasions how can you even compare a nurtured nation that has seen no war or anything remotely close to the devastation of Afghanistan.

                          Despite all that Pakistan is still a ****hole because there is no safety, only if you are a gangster or mega rich you can live a normal life, most of Pakistan is a hell to live we all have been there and lived so your pictures are fooling no one. Even right now half the time there is no electricity especially in Pashtun areas. Pakistan is in billions of debt and dependent on foreign aid, your president is a called a "pola" he's a dumb puppet that rigged all the votes and he would be nowhere if it wasn't for his dad. All of your politicians are currupt criminals and you are not fooling anyone with your 'future' .. 'Soon' .. 'Development' talk. It's all rubbish, we are not interested in Google images we are only interested in ground realitys for our Pashtun people.
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                          *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

                          Originally posted by Karachi
                          like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Manzareh View Post
                            No one is butthurt because this is the Internet, you could be anyone, there's plenty of nationalistic Pakistani Pashtuns and there is plenty of anti Pakistan Pashtuns that are from Pakistan. Personally I reckon your actually an Indian to be honest; because never before have I come accross a Pakistani nationalist that ignores Indians in his face that are putting Pakistan down like the many Indian users that we have in the forum, instead you ignore them and focus on Afghanistan. This is very very strange behaviour, it would only make sense to ignore your common rival (India) if indeed you are an indic yourself.

                            "When I post a single thing" stfu 1 thing, that's all you post, you probly have Jinnah underpants and a Pakistani flag on your toilet seat the way you are acting, your conversations and brain are very limited, you do not speak about anything else but this Pakistan BS, almost like a robot.

                            Ghairat on real things?? Lol I suppose your culture, identity and language is not real?? lol get a grip of yourself dude, you are making a fool out of yourself, living in a fairytale because your in a poxy room in Islamabad typing away thinking you are better than everyone else. Live the struggle of our people before opening your mouth and making fun of poverty, trust me people like you that are arrogant get fcuked up sooner or later, because God will take away your blessings just so you get humble.

                            Subject of girls education is one thing, seems you do not have an education yourself as you don't seem to grasp the basic concept of things even when they are taught to you in the most simplest ways. Afghanistan has been through countless wars and invasions how can you even compare a nurtured nation that has seen no war or anything remotely close to the devastation of Afghanistan.

                            Despite all that Pakistan is still a ****hole because there is no safety, only if you are a gangster or mega rich you can live a normal life, most of Pakistan is a hell to live we all have been there and lived so your pictures are fooling no one. Even right now half the time there is no electricity especially in Pashtun areas. Pakistan is in billions of debt and dependent on foreign aid, your president is a called a "pola" he's a dumb puppet that rigged all the votes and he would be nowhere if it wasn't for his dad. All of your politicians are currupt criminals and you are not fooling anyone with your 'future' .. 'Soon' .. 'Development' talk. It's all rubbish, we are not interested in Google images we are only interested in ground realitys for our Pashtun people.
                            When Afghans post useless things like my tribe defeated your tribe 500 years ago and use that as a base for being superior then its your mind that needs a makeover not mine . With Indians we argue on ground realities and facts and figures . No matter how much differences we have the arguments atleast makes sense . With Afghans its usually them posting rubbish about being white and fair skinned and then using that as a tool for racist comments because they have nothing else to talk about . No wonder you guys have no brains . The other day I had an Afghan friend and I had to spoon feed him the accounting basics because his half brain couldnt get what accounting is . Your brain is only feasable for things like what happened 5000 years ago . No pashtun is against Pakistan . The only few dozens that are anti -Pakistan are TTP sympathizers who got their behind whopped during zarb e azb operation .

                            Yes its such a hellhole that we have the most refugees in the world . 4 million from Afghanistan , 3 million bengalis , A million Rohingyas from myanmar and thousands of Somali and Nigerian refugees . You would think they should head to other countries and not us .

                            Immigration to Pakistan - Wikipedia
                            Last edited by Peshawer_222; 12-02-2016, 03:07 AM.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Peshawer_222 View Post
                              With Afghans its usually them posting rubbish about being white and fair skinned
                              This is issue and complex of Desis/Indics, go to Paklinks or other tons of Pakistani forums and you will see desis obsessed about gora-pan and looks. Every Punjabi in zarorat-i-rishta ads is demanding a fair-skinned wife

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Peshawer_222 View Post
                                When Afghans post useless things like my tribe defeated your tribe 500 years ago and use that as a base for being superior then its your mind that needs a makeover not mine .
                                My tribe defeated your tribe 500 years ago?? Where did anyone say that? Get a quote. You are definetly an Indic with a stereo type view of us, we Pashtuns don't talk about defeating and fighting each other's tribe much, specially here. Stop lying and acting desperate. Just because you are not interested in history and are ignorant to it doesn't mean it is not a core subject, you are a nobody and also a nobody to decided which topic is more important than others, we are free to talk about every subject under the sun if we wish. You are like a child that talks about countries as if they are football teams, baseless competition BS ignoring the context of why countries are in the condition they are in, you have no background knowledge of anything, this is why noobody takes you serious here, you are not into learning only teaching your nationalistic rhetoric mixed with lies and false statements that you cannot back up.

                                Originally posted by Peshawer_222 View Post
                                With Indians we argue on ground realities and facts and figures . No matter how much differences we have the arguments atleast makes sense . With Afghans its usually them posting rubbish about being white and fair skinned and then using that as a tool for racist comments because they have nothing else to talk about . No wonder you guys have no brains .
                                Nonsense, Indians and Pakis curse each other's mothers and wish death upon each other, Indians don't give a **** about facts and figures or ground realities they want Pakistan wiped off the map for just being Pakistan. You talk about brains as if you have a wide level of comprehension, you don't seem smart at all if I'm honest, just some idiot on the internet that knows how to copy and paste pictures and links from Google. Upon up a political thread and be mature about it, do not fight or be confrontational, lay your points down without ridiculous pictures and links, speak from your own mind and talk about about the political rivalry between Afghanistan and Pakistan, I can assure you that you will get more than what you ask for. If you have brains and are really into ground realities you will not spam all over the place, you will do what I just said.

                                Originally posted by Peshawer_222 View Post
                                The other day I had an Afghan friend and I had to spoon feed him the accounting basics because his half brain couldnt get what accounting is . Your brain is only feasable for things like what happened 5000 years ago .
                                Genetically speaking you have the same blood as him, so you being smarter in accounting is due to your life/upbringing, you are speaking about his stupidity as if he is a different race..see this is where you are slipping up and exposing yourself as a non-Pashtun Indic again, nationality is one thing but you seem to be racist against people of the same race which doesn't make sense.

                                Originally posted by Peshawer_222 View Post
                                No pashtun is against Pakistan . The only few dozens that are anti -Pakistan are TTP sympathizers who got their behind whopped during zarb e azb operation .
                                Wishful thinking, many many are. I just told you i am from the Pakistan side and I don't support the establishment. You are butthurt and still call me an afghan citizen lol there's loads of us here which are Pashtun from the Pakistan side even the mods/admins, face the truth. No point lying.. Not everyone is fond of your grandaddy Jinnah, just because one is not a patriot then by default they support taliban?? Haha how ridiculous do you sound Indian boy. Don't live in denial.

                                Originally posted by Peshawer_222 View Post
                                Yes its such a hellhole that we have the most refugees in the world . 4 million from Afghanistan , 3 million bengalis , A million Rohingyas from myanmar and thousands of Somali and Nigerian refugees . You would think they should head to other countries and not us .

                                Immigration to Pakistan - Wikipedia
                                They are coming over from war to escape death and destruction. they are not migrants coming over leaving their homes to build a new life in Pakistan out of choice, it's the last resort for them. They are not there for economical purposes. So your point here is baseless.
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                                *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

                                Originally posted by Karachi
                                like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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