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  • #31
    Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View Post
    But you said Pakistan isn't responsible or involved in terrorist activities. lol Why do you keep flip flopping?
    Every Regional power is involved in Terrorism name me one country that isn't ? India introduced suicide bombing through Tamil tigers during the 80's . China and Russia are even bigger terrorists . Pakistan is no different . Most of ISI 's budget is drug money . Daud ibrahim is living in clifton , Karachi providing ISI with millions of dollars and in return he gets refuge from India and rest of fhe world .

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Peshawer_222 View Post
      Every Regional power is involved in Terrorism name me one country that isn't ? India introduced suicide bombing through Tamil tigers during the 80's . China and Russia are even bigger terrorists . Pakistan is no different . Most of ISI 's budget is drug money . Daud ibrahim is living in clifton , Karachi providing ISI with millions of dollars and in return he gets refuge from India and rest of fhe world .
      WHy do you keep using Tu Quoque Fallacies ....please read on why this lime of reasoning is incorrect.

      Logical Fallacy: Tu Quoque

      The point was you were denying it earlier; Doing acts of terrorism is cowardly and doesn't mean you're powerful; it means you're so weak you have to do terrorism. More Paki soldiers died needlessly as a consequence of terrorist policies of Pakistan; that's a pretty heavy price.

      Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


      Originally posted by ذو الفقار
      don’t try to be smart.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View Post
        WHy do you keep using Tu Quoque Fallacies ....please read on why this lime of reasoning is incorrect.

        Logical Fallacy: Tu Quoque

        The point was you were denying it earlier; Doing acts of terrorism is cowardly and doesn't mean you're powerful; it means you're so weak you have to do terrorism. More Paki soldiers died needlessly as a consequence of terrorist policies of Pakistan; that's a pretty heavy price.
        If you punch others 10 times you are going to get 2 punches in return no matter how powerfull you are. We had to pay the price for 4-5 years when FATA and some parts of KP went unstable after 2008 . Zarb e azb has wiped out everybody and things are back to pre - 2006 days when we had no terrorism and instability .

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Peshawer_222 View Post
          If you punch others 10 times you are going to get 2 punches in return no matter how powerfull you are. We had to pay the price for 4-5 years when FATA and some parts of KP went unstable after 2008 . Zarb e azb has wiped out everybody and things are back to pre - 2006 days when we had no terrorism and instability .
          You paid a heavy price, considering most of those Taliban were trained in your ISI fostered Madrassas. You;'re basically bragging about destroying your own blowback You blew off your own hand basically Only the foolish call this victory.

          Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


          Originally posted by ذو الفقار
          don’t try to be smart.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View Post
            You paid a heavy price, considering most of those Taliban were trained in your ISI fostered Madrassas. You;'re basically bragging about destroying your own blowback You blew off your own hand basically Only the foolish call this victory.
            I am not a big fan of madrassas and clergy . We have brought thousands of madrassas under registration to make sure nothing goes on . I am a fan of of secular Pakistan very much like its founder wanted .

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            • #36
              here we go
              Trump team takes issue with Pakistani version of phone talk - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Peshawer_222 View Post
                I am not a big fan of madrassas and clergy . We have brought thousands of madrassas under registration to make sure nothing goes on . I am a fan of of secular Pakistan very much like its founder wanted .
                so this is where all the fantasies are coming from? you want a secular pakistan, but in reality it is full of hardcore Islamist carrying slogan 'shariat or shahadat?
                pakistan is full of sectarian hatred and banned organisation militants are roaming freely and contesting election.
                one example is ASWj, previously branded sipah e sahaba an extremist organisation of which the lashkar e jhangvi is an offshoot. they are involved in worst kind of terrorism in pakistan and all the recent bomb attacks in Quetta were claimed by LEJ.
                even the worst attack on karachi airport had two guys from LEJ.
                Lashkar-e-Jhangvi - Wikipedia

                so this is the candidate of ASWJ a banned organisation but ironically today wins by election in punjab. he is the son of Sipah-i-Sahaba Pakistan (SSP) founder Haq Nawaz Jhangvi.
                Candidate backed by banned party wins by-poll - Newspaper - DAWN.COM

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by marwat View Post
                  so this is where all the fantasies are coming from? you want a secular pakistan, but in reality it is full of hardcore Islamist carrying slogan 'shariat or shahadat?
                  pakistan is full of sectarian hatred and banned organisation militants are roaming freely and contesting election.
                  one example is ASWj, previously branded sipah e sahaba an extremist organisation of which the lashkar e jhangvi is an offshoot. they are involved in worst kind of terrorism in pakistan and all the recent bomb attacks in Quetta were claimed by LEJ.
                  even the worst attack on karachi airport had two guys from LEJ.
                  Lashkar-e-Jhangvi - Wikipedia

                  so this is the candidate of ASWJ a banned organisation but ironically today wins by election in punjab. he is the son of Sipah-i-Sahaba Pakistan (SSP) founder Haq Nawaz Jhangvi.
                  Candidate backed by banned party wins by-poll - Newspaper - DAWN.COM
                  There is no fantasy . Turkey is a secular country and they still have alot of extremists and bombings. There is no shariat in Pakistan and probably never will be . Pakistan's laws are moderate in nature . 99 % of the people follow a moderate version of Islam with tendency to be liberal/secular as you go towards urban areas . Pakistan is only Islamic on paper . This government is slowly moving to a much more liberal Pakistan . The best thing its doing is passing laws that is pissing off all the maulvis but they cant do anything . Laws like forced conversion to islam , women rights ,rape laws , holi/diwali holiday and many more where maulvis were pissed off but couldnt do anything .

                  The biggest gift to Pakistan this government gave was when it hanged that moron Mumtaz Qadri .

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Peshawer_222 View Post
                    I am not a big fan of madrassas and clergy . We have brought thousands of madrassas under registration to make sure nothing goes on . I am a fan of of secular Pakistan very much like its founder wanted .
                    Irrelevant tangent; you still did this to yourselves ....not to be juvenile, but Epic Fail.

                    Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                    Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                    don’t try to be smart.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Peshawer_222 View Post
                      There is no fantasy . Turkey is a secular country and they still have alot of extremists and bombings. There is no shariat in Pakistan and probably never will be . Pakistan's laws are moderate in nature . 99 % of the people follow a moderate version of Islam with tendency to be liberal/secular as you go towards urban areas . Pakistan is only Islamic on paper . This government is slowly moving to a much more liberal Pakistan . The best thing its doing is passing laws that is pissing off all the maulvis but they cant do anything . Laws like forced conversion to islam , women rights ,rape laws , holi/diwali holiday and many more where maulvis were pissed off but couldnt do anything .

                      The biggest gift to Pakistan this government gave was when it hanged that moron Mumtaz Qadri .


                      Narrative pandering is not your strong suit. lol

                      Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                      Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                      don’t try to be smart.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View Post
                        Irrelevant tangent; you still did this to yourselves ....not to be juvenile, but Epic Fail.
                        Well at this time nothing can be undone . You cannot expect everyone of your policies to be successful

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