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  • #61
    Originally posted by Forreigner View Post
    To be honest this guy could pass in most of the Arab World (North Africa to Iraq) , specially in North Africa and Arabian peninsula.

    When Pakistanis say they are Middlr Eastern rather than South Asian its not too Crazy....they often Look More Middlr Eastern than South Asian, though mostly they Look like mix of South and Middlr East.

    He looks typically north Indian. North Indians / Eastern Pakistanis are generally more mixed then other Indians. Some times they can pass as arabs, but never will they pass as Afghans/Pashtuns

    I find that Saudis/Gulf people actually resemble Indian/Pakistanis more then Afghan/Pashtuns

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Karachi View Post
      This hatred is old, 1947 was just a explosion point, it started when muslim invaders came and started butchering people, destroying temples, taking over land, these things are well documented even by muslim historians themselves. Just read about what muslims did to Sikh gurus and how they humiliated and killed their religious leaders in public infront of them. Muslim sources themselves write these things in praise, almost in a evil laughing fashion.

      Just few years ago, I was pro Pakistani, pro muslim etc... if you look at my earlier posts here, I was against hindus and non muslims in general, but something happened to me in the last 3 years, I started waking up, who was I hating, my own ancestors? Also hating people, just because they are non muslim is such a low life thing to do, which so many muslims do, because they are thought to this since childhood. I remember in my school in childhood, hating a hindu or a jew was a fashionable thing to do, what kind of people are we? what are we teaching our kids? why do we have such a backward mentality? thinking about these things made me open my eyes

      of course there is hatred on the other side too, but the hatred coming from non muslims towards muslims, I find is usually reactionary hatred. For example the extremist hindus who hate muslims, usually have hate because of what muslims did to their ancestors. Now obviously this is wrong too, however the non muslim hatred is not something institutionalized, their hatred can be easily broken down if we muslims actually do something to act peacefully and become more part of the world society and help build bridges, we are totally doing the opposite, very few tiny minority of muslims are involved in building peaceful bridges, instead we are killing each other, killing non muslims etc... what good are we for this world? If there is Allah, he might as well get rid of us, we are no good anymore
      I have no problem if my ancestors converted to Islam at the point of a sword or by there own choice the truth of Islam is clear and As Allah says in the Quran

      Jihad (holy fighting in Allah's Cause) is ordained for you (Muslims) though you dislike it, and it may be that you dislike a thing which is good for you and that you like a thing which is bad for you. Allah knows but you do not know.
      002:216

      I am sure many Non believers hated Islam before they became muslim, they hated something which was actually good for them.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Kakar-Wardak View Post
        I have no problem if my ancestors converted to Islam at the point of a sword or by there own choice the truth of Islam is clear and As Allah says in the Quran

        Jihad (holy fighting in Allah's Cause) is ordained for you (Muslims) though you dislike it, and it may be that you dislike a thing which is good for you and that you like a thing which is bad for you. Allah knows but you do not know.
        002:216

        I am sure many Non believers hated Islam before they became muslim, they hated something which was actually good for them.

        That is the Jahalat of muslims of right there, what is belief when it is done on the basis of sword. Taliban, ISIS etc.. all are doing that

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Karachi View Post
          That is the Jahalat of muslims of right there, what is belief when it is done on the basis of sword. Taliban, ISIS etc.. all are doing that
          of course it is wrong but this is a reality of medival times there were some very barbaric kings in those times and they did convert people by the sword but if people did believe afterwards than they have been saved from a greater punishment of hellfire.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Kakar-Wardak View Post
            of course it is wrong but this is a reality of medival times there were some very barbaric kings in those times and they did convert people by the sword but if people did believe afterwards than they have been saved from a greater punishment of hellfire.

            how do you know that they will not go to hell? when people are forced to believe in something, they actually dont believe anything from inside. This is why you find so many hypocrite muslims anyways. So many hypocrite Muslims love everything western from inside, yet outside they pretend to the most religious of people, Saudis are the best example of that. There is absolutely something wrong with forcing people to believe, you only get mutants that way not pious people

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Karachi View Post
              how do you know that they will not go to hell? when people are forced to believe in something, they actually dont believe anything from inside. This is why you find so many hypocrite muslims anyways. So many hypocrite Muslims love everything western from inside, yet outside they pretend to the most religious of people, Saudis are the best example of that. There is absolutely something wrong with forcing people to believe, you only get mutants that way not pious people
              I don't but what I do know is that anyone with an atoms worth of faith will enter jannat.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Kakar-Wardak View Post
                I don't but what I do know is that anyone with an atoms worth of faith will enter jannat.
                Heaven is fake and God is not real. Wake up

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Porus View Post
                  Heaven is fake and God is not real. Wake up
                  go back to sleep.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Karachi View Post
                    He looks typically north Indian. North Indians / Eastern Pakistanis are generally more mixed then other Indians. Some times they can pass as arabs, but never will they pass as Afghans/Pashtuns

                    I find that Saudis/Gulf people actually resemble Indian/Pakistanis more then Afghan/Pashtuns
                    Agreed brother, north indian muhajirs from Uttar Pradesh and Bihar look like labanese and syrians.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by dawn View Post
                      Agreed brother, north indian muhajirs from Uttar Pradesh and Bihar look like labanese and syrians.
                      nobody looks like syrian lebenese, I said they look like Gulf Arabs

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Karachi View Post
                        nobody looks like syrian lebenese, I said they look like Gulf Arabs
                        No brother, arabs are darker then north indian muhajirs from uttar pradesh and bihar.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by dawn View Post
                          No brother, arabs are darker then north indian muhajirs from uttar pradesh and bihar.
                          he would agree with you. king of qatar



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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Karachi View Post
                            he would agree with you. king of qatar

                            Also north indian muhajirs are very tall and build like tank.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by dawn View Post
                              Also north indian muhajirs are very tall and build like tank.
                              Altaf hussain being a prime example.

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