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  • Trump and Mattis to cut funding to translators/contractors/NGO/parasites?

    I doubt this will happen, because the deep state will be aggressively releasing articles into the mainstream press to try and force Trump's hand.

    However, it is rather promising that US News is leading the way with this editorial:

    Access Denied

    A timely exit is made necessary by the sheer futility and expense by which this intervention is marked. Right now, U.S. taxpayers cover 100 percent of Afghanistan's security expenses and roughly 80 to 90 percent of its overall governing budget. On top of that, we still maintain about 10,000 U.S. soldiers in the "graveyard of empires" – each and every one costing around $4 million per year – as well as three times as many contractors, a source of cost and manpower Washington conveniently ignores when providing troop total updates to the general public.

    Contrary to the conventional wisdom of the Washington foreign policy establishment, the United States can leave Afghanistan, as veteran and military historian Andrew Bacevich persuasively argues because "[p]rotecting Americans from the relatively modest threat posed by the Taliban or Al Qaeda or Islamic State or all three combined for that matter – does not require the permanent stationing of U.S. forces in the Islamic world." Our military can deploy anywhere in the world, if needed and authorized by Congress
    He said some promising things in the recent NY Times interview:

    Mr. Trump spoke only in general terms about foreign policy. He said the United States should not “be a nation builder,” repeated his line from the campaign that fighting the war in Iraq was “one of the great mistakes in the history of our country,” and said he has some “very definitive” and “strong ideas” about how to deal with the violent civil war raging in Syria. He declined to say what those ideas are despite several requests to do so.
    If he accomplishes cutting the welfare checks to American Afghans who arrived in the Reagan era and created "Translator businesses" and other sorts of shady NGOs in the last 15 years, bilking the country of 500,000 to $ 1million a year to enrich themselves and self-assuring themselves that they were contributing to "rebuilding the watan." he may be worthy of Nobel peace prize for cutting the umbilical cord of these parasites.

    These same parasites found their way out of public housing not through hard work, earning degrees, starting businesses, etc but through becoming a part of the warfare-welfare economy and buying homes in the posh neighborhoods.

    This approach will likely also extend to Pakistan:

    Since 2001, U.S. taxpayers have accounted for more than $33 billion funneled to Pakistan in direct aid and in reimbursements for counterterrorism efforts (“coalition support funds”), according to the Congressional Research Service. That includes $3.8 billion in “foreign military financing” (FMF) funds. Pakistan consistently has been one of the biggest recipients of U.S. foreign assistance, and this year stands at number five...
    "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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    Obama already stopped aid to Pakistan, which was less then 1% of Pak budget anyway. Afghanistan is in deep **** if they pull out 100% of aid. At least they should continue to fund ANA to take on Taliban. This explain why so many Afghans on internet are big supporters of USA invasion. They directly or indirectly benefit from it.

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    • #3
      Ignore dawn, he's a retard.

      go to 1:30

      Trump: We're a debtor nation, can't keep giving and giving - YouTube

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      • #4
        ^^
        You're not paying attention, Pakistan no longer receive US aid which didn't made much of difference to begin with. If anything Trump can be disaster for Afghanistan if they pull out.

        "Earlier this month, Secretary of Defense Ash Carter refused to authorize $300 million in military reimbursements to Pakistan, citing the limited gains the country has made fighting the militant Haqqani network, which is based in the country's tribal areas bordering Afghanistan. The approval of such funding has been mostly routine in the past."

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        • #5
          It was never significant, it was always chump change. From the same article:

          American civilian and military aid to Pakistan, once the third-largest recipient of U.S. foreign assistance, is expected to total less than $1 billion in 2016, down from a recent peak of more than $3.5 billion in 2011, according to U.S. government data. The United States has not appropriated less than $1 billion to Pakistan since at least 2007.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by dawn View Post
            Obama already stopped aid to Pakistan, which was less then 1% of Pak budget anyway. Afghanistan is in deep **** if they pull out 100% of aid. At least they should continue to fund ANA to take on Taliban. This explain why so many Afghans on internet are big supporters of USA invasion. They directly or indirectly benefit from it.
            is pakistan budget 500 billion dollar? 33 billion $ since 2001 makes it ~9 percent of pakistan budget. it comes in dollar, and add to foreign exchange reserve, help rupee being stabilized.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by marwat View Post
              is pakistan budget 500 billion dollar? 33 billion $ since 2001 makes it ~9 percent of pakistan budget. it comes in dollar, and add to foreign exchange reserve, help rupee being stabilized.
              Pakistan budget is around $50 billion for this year.

              "Earlier this month, Secretary of Defense Ash Carter refused to authorize $300 million in military reimbursements to Pakistan, citing the limited gains the country has made fighting the militant Haqqani network, which is based in the country's tribal areas bordering Afghanistan. The approval of such funding has been mostly routine in the past."

              $300 million is less then 1%. Pakistan remittances are over $20 billion and another $22 billion of exports. And foreign reserves over $24 billion.

              http://www.brecorder.com/pakistan/banking-a-finance/328492-pakistans-liquid-foreign-reserves-cross-us$24bn.html

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              • #8
                Originally posted by dawn View Post
                Pakistan budget is around $50 billion for this year.

                "Earlier this month, Secretary of Defense Ash Carter refused to authorize $300 million in military reimbursements to Pakistan, citing the limited gains the country has made fighting the militant Haqqani network, which is based in the country's tribal areas bordering Afghanistan. The approval of such funding has been mostly routine in the past."

                $300 million is less then 1%. Pakistan remittances are over $20 billion and another $22 billion of exports. And foreign reserves over $24 billion.

                http://www.brecorder.com/pakistan/banking-a-finance/328492-pakistans-liquid-foreign-reserves-cross-us$24bn.html
                take an average from 2001 and do the math, your budget was not $50b in 2001. do you understand? $300 million dollar is the coalition support fund only. Pakistan receive civilian fund too.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by marwat View Post
                  take an average from 2001 and do the math, your budget was not $50b in 2001. do you understand? $300 million dollar is the coalition support fund only. Pakistan receive civilian fund too.
                  It was not $50 billion back then obviously, but point is NOW aid is completely cut for time being. And even if they give $300 million or $1 billion it will not make much of a difference. Basically they need to give much more now to have same influence as they had 15 years before, maybe $5-10 billion. And Trump doesn't seem like in mod to give. Pakistan of 2001 and Pakistan of 2016 is very different, budget have more then tripled since then and USA aid only decreased with time.
                  Last edited by dawn; 11-25-2016, 01:24 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by dawn View Post
                    It was not $50 billion back then obviously, but point is NOW aid is completely cut for time being. And even if they give $300 million or $1 billion it will not make much of a difference. Basically they need to give much more now to have same influence as they had 15 years before, maybe $5-10 billion. And Trump doesn't seem like in mod to give. Pakistan of 2001 and Pakistan of 2016 is very different, budget have more then tripled since then and USA aid only decreased with time.
                    Pakistan doesnt need US aid. We have cut ourself from them and now looking for strategic partnerships with China , Russia , Iran and Turkey . Russia just contacted our government to be part of CPEC and putin is expected to visit here for Russia gas pipeline . We dont need americans one bit and neither it effects us if they give us aid or not .

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                    • #11
                      I doubt this will happen as well. There are many warhawks fighting to get into his administration. He maybe allowing them to enter because he fears those same people might ignite calls for impeachment a year or 2 after entering office. The established warfare/welfare politicians/lobbyists are entrenched deep into american political machine and it is these people that will eventually bankrupt the Republic.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by khushal View Post
                        I doubt this will happen as well. There are many warhawks fighting to get into his administration. He maybe allowing them to enter because he fears those same people might ignite calls for impeachment a year or 2 after entering office. The established warfare/welfare politicians/lobbyists are entrenched deep into american political machine and it is these people that will eventually bankrupt the Republic.
                        True, lol KT McFarland (his national security pick) is an idiot but she has said the following stuff which may get the Ghani/Karzai/Abdullah bootlickers to sweat a little

                        The Karzai betrayal | Fox News

                        The aide breezed in nearly an hour late, fluttering his hand about some minor difficulty with his new armored Mercedes.*
                        He was young, maybe mid-20s, wearing a superbly tailored three-piece, light-weight wool suit, and flashing a gold Rolex on his wrist, which he kept checking every few minutes.*
                        I kept thinking I should check my wallet. This guy would be herding goats in the mountains if it weren’t for America’s generosity.
                        I asked him about the long-term prospects in Afghanistan, and about when his country would be strong enough to stand on its own.*
                        He said it would take another 10 years, and that they were making plans for continued U.S.-Afghanistan programs that would go to 2030.*
                        In other words, he was counting on American protection and largesse for decades to come.
                        When I expressed some skepticism, he countered with how essential Afghanistan was to American security. He implied that the Karzai government was the only thing preventing Al Qaeda from coming back and plotting more September 11th attacks on Americans.*
                        Not only did this young man have a vaulted sense of his own importance, he had a similar view of his nation’s importance.*
                        She goes on to say:

                        And if the Taliban don’t buy it, Karzai has a Plan B. He and his cronies will be on the last American helicopter out of Kabul, weighted down with bags of gold, en route to their secret Swiss bank accounts.
                        The question isn’t what’s wrong with Karzai, it’s what’s wrong with us? Why did we look the other way amid corruption and drug dealings? Were we really naïve enough to believe the Afghans wanted Western-style democracy? Did it not occur to us that they told us what we wanted to hear so we would defeat their enemies and stay and build them a nation?
                        Here is another classic:

                        K.T. McFarland: Don't Let Karzai On Last Helicopter Leaving Afghanistan | Video | RealClearPolitics

                        MCFARLAND: I’m not quite sure what the plan is. We had 150,000 troops and we couldn't secure the country, provide security throughout the country. We are not going to do that with a token force of several thousand, and what we are leaving behind is an awful lot of American aid workers and NGOs and schoolteachers and people who work in hospitals. They want to do good deeds.

                        They will not be protected and so I am very concerned that we have sitting ducks that we will leave behind, and I think we’re going to end up having to shoot our way out and I don't think we owe Karzai anything. We have given him ten years and a trillion dollars and not even counting the American blood and treasure. If we took the money that we spent in Afghanistan and doled out to every man and woman in Afghanistan, they would have had 25,000 each. That would have bought a lot of goats.
                        Here is a gem:

                        MCFARLAND: We should have left then. We should have followed the 100 remaining al-Qaeda over the Tora Bora Mountains into Pakistan and killed them off.

                        What we did was we stuck around in Afghanistan to nation-build. I’ve been to Afghanistan a number of times. You’re not going to build that nation into anything that resembles modern-day democracy. It was an effort that was just a bridge too far.
                        And the best quote of all?:

                        K.T. MCFARLAND: [Afghan President Hamid Karzai] has been a traitor and betrayed us, and I think the Taliban is not going to buy what he is trying to offer. So, what should we do? Karzai will show up with a plan b: Bags of American gold and try to get on the last helicopter out of Kabul. I don't think we ought to let him on the helicopter.
                        Gotta admire her gusto. She knows a crook when she sees one even if she is an opportunist in her own right. Maybe it takes one to catch onto another one.

                        I agree though, I think the MIC will not permit her, Flynn, and Trump to squeeze the tail of these lechers who are a burden to Afghan society and their adopted society.... its like all a roach motel or an ant trap - the war drew in some of the most useless segments of our society all into one endeavor... one failed endeavor.
                        "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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