pakistan army looting shops and burning them, bombing civilian in waziristan

[vsdoc]

Drone attacks of America have not destroyed any mosque yet Pakistani bombardments and shelling are destroying mosques in FATA since the start of TTP insurgency......no such thing happens at the hands of Indian army in Kashmir........, when TTP insurgency was at peak, there was rumour that Shia soldiers in Pakistani army are doing this....that was escapism ,.... as if Sunni soldiers are not standing side by side with Shia ones, as if Sunni soldiers are not capable of doing it...caste and sect doesnt matter in Pakistani army, they are all same.

If we are to believe that attacking mosques was not deliberate and it was collateral damage, then it also highlights the level of collateral damage (human and material) they have caused in tribal areas. Pakistanis love to be compared with Indians when it comes to looks and ratio of rapes.....but they get extremely angry when i tell them that Indian army is true professional , that their officers and soldiers bravely fight against militants with simple gun-fight i Kashmir and dont use Jets , Heavy artillery, Tanks and gunships on their own soil to avoid collateral damage unlike Pakistani army.

This Shia thing is a hauwwa (red herring) that the Pakis use when they talk to you guys.

You should know by now that they use exactly the opposite line when they talk to the Iranians.

P.S. Nice to see an old face.

[Firdousi]

Not exactly.....every Afghan, even if he is clean-shaved, even farsiwans, supports TTP and prays for their successes against Pakistani and Pakistani people (i am not talking about western diaspora but those who live in Afghanistan and cant write english but only pashto text)..........its obvious on social media.....its same as Pakistanis praying for successes of Afghan-Taliban

Honestly dude very few Afghans know even TTP is fighting against Pakistan. For most of Afghans Taliban mean Pakistan. They don't even know the difference. Actually many of them don't even know that Taliban have killed in the past 10 years almost 90000 Pakistanis.

Yeah I told you many Afghans support TTP just because they are killing Pakistanis. But its not because they share their ideology but rather because its time for payback. Tit for tat, bro.

[marwat]

This is somehow true that pakistan army used shia soldiers in fighting taliban. The reason are very sound. First the people of gilgit baltistan who are majority shia are mountainous unlike the people of punjab, and they can fight very well in hard terrian. Other reasons are ideological. Shia consider taliban their worst enemy unlike sunni where the foot soldiers have sympathies with taliban. We know there are army officers with the exactly same type of taliban and al qaeda mentality who want to bring sharia. Recently when alqaeda hijacked naval destroyer ship from karachi there were insider help. According to taliban sources recently army people defected in mohmand agency with many ttp prisoners and successfully managed to cross border, taliban promised to release video, but I don't know whether it happened. There was a video circulating on internet where an army soldier torturing an old man with white beard dragging him in streets. The army soldier can be listened saying 'ali ko gali deta ha '.

[Samandri]

According to taliban sources recently army people defected in mohmand agency with many ttp prisoners and successfully managed to cross border, taliban promised to release video, but I don't know whether it happened. There was a video circulating on internet where an army soldier torturing an old man with white beard dragging him in streets. The army soldier can be listened saying 'ali ko gali deta ha '.

Most probably spies of ISI.........thats how ISI infiltrate into their ranks.....they are generally Pashtuns and are religious appearance-wise, but are fully and loyally dedicated to ISI

The Shias from Gilgat-Baltistan torturing captured Taliban in most heinous ways and desecrating their dead bodies, appears to be true as the army-brats frequently mention it. My point is that Sunnis (particularly bareilwis) of Paki army are on same page with their shia brothers-in-arms.

[Azmal]

By the way they are taken care of. Yesterday a major was blown into 2999 pieces. With 12 other in hospitals.
If one look at the casualties figures coming from ispr, army casualties are way higher.
With time when ttp will get new sanctuaries, and will hire new mercenaries from afghan side, it is going to be very blood war on border side. When refugee will come back to waziristan and bazar become open, mine attack will increase exponentially.

Sadly, our blood will be shed for others interests...our land will turn into brown and their brothers battle ground....breaks my heart!

[Azmal]

This is somehow true that pakistan army used shia soldiers in fighting taliban. The reason are very sound. First the people of gilgit baltistan who are majority shia are mountainous unlike the people of punjab, and they can fight very well in hard terrian. Other reasons are ideological. Shia consider taliban their worst enemy unlike sunni where the foot soldiers have sympathies with taliban. We know there are army officers with the exactly same type of taliban and al qaeda mentality who want to bring sharia. Recently when alqaeda hijacked naval destroyer ship from karachi there were insider help. According to taliban sources recently army people defected in mohmand agency with many ttp prisoners and successfully managed to cross border, taliban promised to release video, but I don't know whether it happened. There was a video circulating on internet where an army soldier torturing an old man with white beard dragging him in streets. The army soldier can be listened saying 'ali ko gali deta ha '.

Reporter Saleem Shahzad of Asia Times were murdered by ISI for covering Alqaeda and Paki military nexus.

[Elite Pakhtun]

By the way they are taken care of. Yesterday a major was blown into 2999 pieces. With 12 other in hospitals.
If one look at the casualties figures coming from ispr, army casualties are way higher.
With time when ttp will get new sanctuaries, and will hire new mercenaries from afghan side, it is going to be very blood war on border side. When refugee will come back to waziristan and bazar become open, mine attack will increase exponentially.

I hope you're not gloating. Let's not forget why this is happening? Do you not recall the years of bomb blasts happening in pretty much kpk. Yes, it happened elsewhere as well, but let's get real here. It really it was almost exclusively at kpk.

Kpk was paying the price for what exactly? That level of bloodbath will not be allowed to happen again.

[Elite Pakhtun]

Sadly, our blood will be shed for others interests...our land will turn into brown and their brothers battle ground....breaks my heart!

Hopefully not.

[marwat]

I hope you're not gloating. Let's not forget why this is happening? Do you not recall the years of bomb blasts happening in pretty much kpk. Yes, it happened elsewhere as well, but let's get real here. It really it was almost exclusively at kpk.

Kpk was paying the price for what exactly? That level of bloodbath will not be allowed to happen again.

should you go back more years in time, the impression will change as why this is happening. i recall and it is pretty much our fate now. you know who and how it started. don't forget that those ruler of KPK actually endorsed army operation, they should have taken a more neutral stand like PTI but they brought upon themselves the wrath of Taliban. attack in KP in an attack in pakistan. KP collapse is a collapse of state, and KP lose is actually lose of the state. simple as that.
a mater of fact is pakistan army hit waziristan very hardly bombed it to oblivion,like it is an enemy territory. it 's intentions were not to win people heart and flush militants out but to subdue the people of the area, invade and conquer the land,destroying infrastructure,razing economy to ground, make the whole population refugee and then humiliate them on daily basis. as samandari have explained this was the way of colonel british. this is how you make people bow and smash their pride. you make them beg for piece of loaf.
point is had pakistan fought the war against insurgents the way countries fought for example india in IOK, or the same pakistan fighting it in karachi and punjab, i would never dwell on taliban successes, but that Major who got blown up was simply not fighting to safeguard the ordinary people lives in KP, rather than the status quo. they made life miserable for everyone.
for me the people of KP, FATA and afghan pashtun matter equal, so i would pick my kin rather than ****ed face.
another thing worth mentioning is TTP is an umbrella organisation with very loose independent faction. only thing these faction had common was animosity toward state. these faction fought each other almost to death in FATA, one faction rose at the cost of others. they had very big ideological difference. one was shia hater, other was global jihadist, some were warlords, other were resistance movement with nationalist tendencies for example the waziri faction, group led by shehryar mehsud and hafiz gul bahadar faction which is main rival in shawal and has historically distanced himself from TTP largely. but army used the same yard stick for everyone, identified them as taliban as a whole, propagating the notion like they are mercenaries and proxy of hindues fighting for money, as a result waziristan, khyber and mohmand agency had to bear the brunt for the crimes commuted by punjabi taliban factions, lashkar e jangvi,, SSP. these organisation have their command and control infrastructure in south punjab and karachi, but only intelligence based operation were held there. since 2014, 9,308 intelligence based operation were carried out only in punjab, which can give you the idea how punjab is infested. similarly al qaeda main presence in in punjab and karachi.

63 militant outfits

A source privy to a security agency told Dawn that 63 banned militant organisations were operating in Punjab.

i don't know how to sums this up, but this attack was accepted by shehryar mehsud faction, these waziri and mehsud taliban are fighting on their own, and have little to no relation with TTP, TTP which is now based in kunar and nuristan may have contacts with NDS,actually disown these factions and do not take responsibility of their attacks. waziri taliban are living in khost and paktia region, these are the sanctuaries of Afghan taliban and haqqani, and Afghan government have no presence here. they are fighting independently to defend their homeland from the ****ed face.

[rooh2]

I must say as a Pakistani Punjabi. Well **** you found us out. We wait to pour children's blood on rice to eat it. Who cares if you guys allow outsiders to murder school children. That has to do with the Afghan/Pashtun race.

I'm sorry for being born Punjabi and a Pakistani, my dear Afghan bro's. LoL

[rooh2]

If my Afghan bro's feel happy killing children in schools and burning alive women that are teachers, who am I to say anything? Mashallah! Keep doing god's work Afghans!

[Samandri]

If my Afghan bro's feel happy killing children in schools and burning alive women that are teachers, who am I to say anything? Mashallah! Keep doing god's work Afghans!

TTP is blow back of wrong policies of Pakistani army, they are your countrymen by the way

[rooh2]

TTP is blow back of wrong policies of Pakistani army, they are your countrymen by the way

Absolutely sir. It is because of Pakistani army and Punjabis that poor TTP don't know it's wrong to burn women and shoot children in the head. I hope Pakistani awam wakes up to this.

TTP toh masoom dood peenay walay bachay he.

[Samandri]

Absolutely sir. It is because of Pakistani army and Punjabis that poor TTP don't know it's wrong to burn women and shoot children in the head. I hope Pakistani awam wakes up to this.

TTP toh masoom dood peenay walay bachay he.

It was just a rumour , no teacher was burnt......but boys were shot.....they had come to kill sons of army officers, pure revenge story,...... their families were scorched to death in the indiscriminate bombardments of Pakistani Jets and artillery shelling. They avenged in the name of Islam, which was wrong. But their madness is totally understandable, any human would go to such lengths after what Pakistan army did to them

Listen munafiq, the ultimate villain in the story is Pakistan army and the state. If you were not stupid, i would have given reasons for saying so........but knowing how much stupid and bewakoof you are, it will be a useless exercise. (Now dont cry).....that being said, i have no issues with cleansing of TTP by Raheel Shareef, after all army is cleaning its own filth and feces. And the destruction of lives and livelihood at their hands in these operations, should serve as lesson for future generation of not just Waziristanis but all Pashtuns

[khushal]

This Rooh guy is a perfect example of how effective paki media is brainwashing its citizens. Most pakis I talked to here in the states are as naive into believing what ever he hears. The irony is they sing the paki patriotic song but would sell their arse to get an American green card.