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  • #16
    Originally posted by Manzareh View Post
    Many of the top 10 highest ranking soldiers ever in Pakistan army 4 are Pashtun you idiot lol. Talking about your ass again.

    what Ayub Khan? he was hindko, not pashtun, most of them were most likely hindko, who are the biggest Pakistan army supporters.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Karachi View Post
      why paki pathans swing so much?? one day they are at feet of punjabis, the other day they are being nationalists, at least choose your sides for once
      Yes, Pashtuns in Pakistan, who number in the millions, are obviously a monolith and hold the same views generally. Clearly you know nothing about the long history of Pashtun resistance against the Pakistani state if this news has you so confused.

      I'm just wondering why you're still on this forum when you're humiliated, degraded, and laughed at on a daily basis by virtually every single user. Talk about an inferiority complex lol.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Yousufzai View Post
        Yes, Pashtuns in Pakistan, who number in the millions, are obviously a monolith and hold the same views generally. Clearly you know nothing about the long history of Pashtun resistance against the Pakistani state if this news has you so confused.

        I'm just wondering why you're still on this forum when you're humiliated, degraded, and laughed at on a daily basis by virtually every single user. Talk about an inferiority complex lol.

        Because I dont take anything seriously on this forum, I mean it's not my real life here and I dont know anyone in real life here, I am just here to discuss stuff, have fun and tell truth

        and as for your first comment, Paki Pathans are known to swing, you are making panjus and Afghans very frustrated, since both of them dont know who's side you are on

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Karachi View Post
          Because I dont take anything seriously on this forum, I mean it's not my real life here and I dont know anyone in real life here, I am just here to discuss stuff, have fun and tell truth

          and as for your first comment, Paki Pathans are known to swing, you are making panjus and Afghans very frustrated, since both of them dont know who's side you are on
          You clearly take things seriously if you crafted some ridiculous fairy tale ancestry in order to "fit in" (your words) and after years of being ignored and humiliated started lashing out at all Pashtuns like a moron. You seem genuinely upset and it's hilarious.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Yousufzai View Post
            You clearly take things seriously if you crafted some ridiculous fairy tale ancestry in order to "fit in" (your words) and after years of being ignored and humiliated started lashing out at all Pashtuns like a moron. You seem genuinely upset and it's hilarious.

            not at all, I was holding in the "lashing out" part, but once pashtuns were being racist as hell against south asians, this is what triggered it, just look and follow my posts

            Also why would I take things seriously I dont know anyone in real life here? I mean, at end of the day for you guys, I can be Pathan, Indian, Bengali etc... what does it matter? I am just here to say whatever I want, the only thing I hope is, my message gets across to different people here

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            • #21
              Most of these Paki Pashtun leaders play a double game. When they want something from panjab, they start kissing the afghan gov arse and threaten to secede. When they get a little of what they want from Panjab, then they quiet down the Afghan talk.

              The TTP targets these morons so they want panjab to bomb villages with women and children present which fuels the violent cycle.

              Pure hypocrites.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Karachi View Post
                Also why would I take things seriously I dont know anyone in real life here? I mean, at end of the day for you guys, I can be Pathan, Indian, Bengali etc... what does it matter? I am just here to say whatever I want, the only thing I hope is, my message gets across to different people here
                You tell me. You felt the need to lie about yourself and spend half a decade on this site despite being routinely ridiculed so clearly this is important to you. Regarding your "message," all we're getting is that you're a pathetic, desperate idiot with no self respect and a massive inferiority complex, constantly seeking the approval of others, and now prone to racist emotional outbursts because some users said mean things to you.

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                • #23
                  Manzareh, thank you for sharing this.

                  The "A" in Pakistan stands for ethnic Afghans, this should come as no surprise for both Afghan and Pakistani nationals.
                  Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

                  A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

                  For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


                  The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

                  -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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                  • #24
                    Who cares? You are what you self-identify. Wakil Dr Najib’s foreigner minster in his book writes Khan Abullah Wali khan ask Najib for 3 million dollars to bring 10 thousands fighting man, after receiving the money Wali khan refused to follow through. Wakil is a Parchami so this must be taken with pinch of a salt but it is not secret how the ANP at the end betrayed Najib and accepted Pakistani gov amnesty. On other hand Baloch Sardar Murri stayed until Muj takeover…when Pakistan offer him amnesty and Papa Smurf aka Rabbani ask him to leave..he refused to go back in PIA plane and his last wish from Afghan gov was to be taken by Aryana airlines .
                    I would think ANP folks tune change are due to shifting regional politics…maybe these hounds smell blood…either way we should not worry about who is calling themselves Afghan or not…we should worry about Afghanistan national interest. For me a dog of patriotic Hazara is billion times better then traitor Pashtun.
                    ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
                    نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

                    چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
                    نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

                    سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
                    بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

                    چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
                    يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

                    سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
                    په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

                    ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
                    اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Samandri View Post
                      Pashtuns are only 14.4% of Pakistan army, according to ISPR
                      I would think a good 6-8% of those 14.4% are like of Hamid gul--a Sargodian Punjabi who claim to be Pashtun.
                      ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
                      نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

                      چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
                      نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

                      سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
                      بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

                      چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
                      يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

                      سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
                      په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

                      ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
                      اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Karachi View Post
                        In reality Pashtuns should have never been part of a desi country like Pakistan, I mean how in the world would indics and iranids could live together? when no muslim even of the same race cant live together. Even if Muslims of India wanted a separate state, they should have stopped the at the Punjab / KPK border, the British made pashtuns areas part of British and this was their huge mistake
                        Yeah these artifical borders that have been made by British are shame.. with a vast landmass, 200+ million population size and we could become a dominant force in the region. just think of all powerful nations: USA, EU, Russia, UK/Britain, China, (potential future powers India, Brazil), etc.

                        I believe the future of the world consists of a few powerful regional states with huge landmasses consisting of big multi-ethnic populations with common/similar history, culture, identity, etc. Small nations will merge into bigger ones to become more influential in the global stage, maybe similar to EU, if not outright states. although EU is not really a state, it more or less functions like big powerful countries of the world USA, Russia, China. This could be a potential model/solution for our region some day in the future.
                        Last edited by Forreigner; 09-26-2016, 08:00 AM.

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                        • #27
                          Afghans are so delusional - he's a member of ANP; what do you expect? ANP is struggling to hold onto simple districts - just gives you an insight to how much support they enjoy. Hell, most of their supports were Afghan immigrants and we all know where they're going.

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                          • #28
                            If it ignites the zeal of the Pathan or the A in Pakistan then good news. It raises the point to discussion, about our identity.

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                            • #29
                              Of course, Pashtun and Afghan are synonymous with each other. It's like calling a Sindhi a Sindhi. Can't understand why Pakistani establishment has such an issue with this.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Talwar e Pakistan View Post
                                Afghans are so delusional - he's a member of ANP; what do you expect? ANP is struggling to hold onto simple districts - just gives you an insight to how much support they enjoy. Hell, most of their supports were Afghan immigrants and we all know where they're going.
                                ANP is a secular party which aims to work for the rights of Pashtuns as well as Pakistanis as a whole. Isn't it evident when they condemned the Afghan war against the soviets? What right do we have to tell them that they're anti-Pakistan?

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