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    Safi, Daudzi, Syedkhel and other “Shamliwal” Pashtun are busy shouldering Saqaw’s bones in Kabul are best time for self reflects for us as people. What makes us Pashtun such a self-hating people? What is the psychological dimension or mental state of these Pashtuns that are whoring themselves with either Saqawi or Punjos?
    Mental state of flat head Tajiks are simply inferiority complex…It is the psychological dimension of the Tajik’s worldview that causes the poor Tajik bast*ards to think they are somehow achieving something against Pashtuns by harassing Afghanistan with Saqawi I or Saqawi II(Massod). Tajik are compensating for past subjection by impeding Afghan progress in the 21st century. Why is this necessary to the Tajik political psychology? Because they can "prove" to themselves that they are not really the weeny-di*cks that they are. This is not only in the context of Central/South Asian realities of today and the past, but also by sticking their finger in the Pashtun eye the Punjshirs are easing their racial inferiority complex: "look, we can defy the Pashtun who turn our mothers in wet-nurse."
    ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
    نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

    چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
    نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

    سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
    بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

    چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
    يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

    سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
    په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

    ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
    اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

  • #2
    and then idiots like (Iblis) claim that all indics hate themselves lol, he should look in the mirror first

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Karachi View Post
      and then idiots like (Iblis) claim that all indics hate themselves lol, he should look in the mirror first
      ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
      نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

      چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
      نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

      سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
      بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

      چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
      يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

      سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
      په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

      ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
      اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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      • #4
        Speaking of self hatred, Pakhpaloo, you spent your whole life being a Tajik and living in Tajik culture speaking Tajik language. You can't even mingle with real Pashtuns because you don't speak the language. You don't even have a tribal lineage m. You hail from a fake non existent Pashtun tribe according to yourself.

        Yet you are here cursing and hating on Tajiks all the time. So stop projecting your own personality on others.
        Originally posted by Firdousi
        Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
          Speaking of self hatred, Pakhpaloo, you spent your whole life being a Tajik and living in Tajik culture speaking Tajik language. You can't even mingle with real Pashtuns because you don't speak the language. You don't even have a tribal lineage m. You hail from a fake non existent Pashtun tribe according to yourself.

          Yet you are here cursing and hating on Tajiks all the time. So stop projecting your own personality on others.
          Cut the bull****, you don't know me so stop pretending like you do. What the hell is Tajik culture and Tajik language? Last I check Farsi came from Fars and flat headed Tajik--mixture of Arab, Turk and Changiz khan troops adopted after their forefather Changiz khan uprooted the eastern Iranic languages of Afghanistan. Yaqubi and Paimirs still speak native language of Hindukush--eastern Iranic---sister language of Pashto. Look around Afghanistan's who is who in term of cultural and artists...98 percent were/are Pashtun. Trying to understand why I single you out for your fascination of Khurassani and bull**** of religion prospective instead of being all defensive. I said this before the road to liberty is not about “us”, “Pashtuns”, “Tajik”, or even “Afghans” or sheer vengeance. We came into this world as naked beasts and we shall leave this world as naked beasts, only if spiritually the wiser we would hope.
          ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
          نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

          چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
          نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

          سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
          بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

          چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
          يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

          سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
          په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

          ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
          اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Azmal View Post
            Cut the bull****, you don't know me so stop pretending like you do. What the hell is Tajik culture and Tajik language? Last I check Farsi came from Fars and flat headed Tajik--mixture of Arab, Turk and Changiz khan troops adopted after their forefather Changiz khan uprooted the eastern Iranic languages of Afghanistan. Yaqubi and Paimirs still speak native language of Hindukush--eastern Iranic---sister language of Pashto. Look around Afghanistan's who is who in term of cultural and artists...98 percent were/are Pashtun. Trying to understand why I single you out for your fascination of Khurassani and bull**** of religion prospective instead of being all defensive. I said this before the road to liberty is not about “us”, “Pashtuns”, “Tajik”, or even “Afghans” or sheer vengeance. We came into this world as naked beasts and we shall leave this world as naked beasts, only if spiritually the wiser we would hope.

            The fact that you persist pretending to be someone else is further evidence of deep rooted self hatred. You don't just hate being a Tajik, you even hate yourself for what you revealed about yourself on Afghansite.

            Normally I would feel sorry for a person in your situation. But since you are an obnoxious prick, I don't even feel sympathy for you. I can only cheer along as you torment yourself for being who you are, akhundzada.
            Originally posted by Firdousi
            Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
              The fact that you persist pretending to be someone else is further evidence of deep rooted self hatred. You don't just hate being a Tajik, you even hate yourself for what you revealed about yourself on Afghansite.

              Normally I would feel sorry for a person in your situation. But since you are an obnoxious prick, I don't even feel sympathy for you. I can only cheer along as you torment yourself for being who you are, akhundzada.
              Perhaps you may care to enlighten us about how it is you’ve managed to be a communist one day, a Talib another, and serve blood trusty enemies of Pashtun by calling yourself Khurassani(they to want to changed Afghanistan name to Khurssan, banned Pashto and oppressed Pashtun—if they could) another day, and then come back here to talk about my background. I’m who I am.. I know who I am and a lot of Afghans knows my father and forefathers…. Either way I don’t see how my background could disprove the fact that you evidently are a self-conflicted mental-midget. All I’m trying to tell you is that you’ve a long way to go sorting yourself out first, before you try and sort out Afghanistan.
              ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
              نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

              چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
              نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

              سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
              بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

              چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
              يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

              سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
              په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

              ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
              اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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              • #8
                I don't understand the Tajik hatred among some Pashtuns, as Tajiks and Pashtuns get along pretty well, from my experience. In the West, where I live, Tajiks and Pashtuns stick very close to each other, intermarry, etc. (Tajik hatred is possibly from non-Pashtuns/Indics trying to cause division in Afghanistan, or Paki Pashtuns who are having identity crisis seeing they are being Desified by Punjabis in Pakistan, and that they can no longer consider themselves Afghan or Iranic, but must settle with mere ''Pakistani'' or ''Paki'' or Indic/South Asian)

                Azmal sounds to me like a Pakistani Pashtun with an identity crisis who struggles to accept that he can no longer officially claim to be Afghan, but who struggles with the reality that he and other Pakistani Pashtuns has been forced by Punjabis to accept his new fake identity ''Pakistani'' or ''Paki'' so he lashes out at Tajiks, as if it was the Tajiks who created the Durrand Line to separate Pashtuns into Afghanistan and Pakistan. Now the Durrand Line is created originally by British, so we can't fully blame Punjabis, but Punjabis rule Pakistan today, and are the force that is slowly turning Paki Pashtuns into Indics culturally and likely also genetically in the future.

                The avarage Tajik has no hatred against the Pashtuns, and from personal experience, this feeling is mutual from Afghan Pashtun side as well.

                Beside I am not really sure if a lot of Pakistani Pashtuns can claim to be Eastern Iranic any more. they have mixed with Indics and look more Australoid than they do Eastern Iranic like Afghan Pashtuns:

                Pakistani Pashtuns:



                Afghan Pashtuns:




                I don't get the ''flat head'' slur used on Tajiks on this forum either. By ''flat head'' I guess you guys mean:



                Sure Tajiks have some Mongoloid, but it's miniscule and don't mean much in the grander scheme, specially Afghan Tajiks. Even in Tajikistani Tajiks where East Asian peaks in some regions, they still fall in the (Eastern) Iranic plateau spectrum phenotype wise.

                Some examples of what Afghan Tajiks in my experience looks like:









                I think these two are Afghan Tajiks as well, they look like Tajiks I have met:







                Even in Tajikistani Tajiks, the Mongoloid is overestimated (the most Mongoloid looking Tajikistani scores between 12-18% East Asian), they don't all look East Asian, but some amount of Tajikistanis fall pretty easily into the (Eastern) Iranic spectrum of phenotypes (specially the half bordering Afghanistan, the more North you into Northeast Asia, the more Mongoloid it gets though):

























                Last edited by Forreigner; 09-01-2016, 04:47 PM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Forreigner View Post
                  I don't understand the Tajik hatred among some Pashtuns, as Tajiks and Pashtuns get along pretty well, from my experience. In the West, where I live, Tajiks and Pashtuns stick very close to each other, intermarry, etc. (Tajik hatred is possibly from non-Pashtuns/Indics trying to cause division in Afghanistan, or Paki Pashtuns who are having identity crisis seeing they are being Desified by Punjabis in Pakistan, and that they can no longer consider themselves Afghan or Iranic, but must settle with mere ''Pakistani'' or ''Paki'' or Indic/South Asian)

                  Azmal sounds to me like a Pakistani Pashtun with an identity crisis who struggles to accept that he can no longer officially claim to be Afghan, but who struggles with the reality that he and other Pakistani Pashtuns has been forced by Punjabis to accept his new fake identity ''Pakistani'' or ''Paki'' so he lashes out at Tajiks, as if it was the Tajiks who created the Durrand Line to separate Pashtuns into Afghanistan and Pakistan. Now the Durrand Line is created originally by British, so we can't fully blame Punjabis, but Punjabis rule Pakistan today, and are the force that is slowly turning Paki Pashtuns into Indics culturally and likely also genetically in the future.

                  The avarage Tajik has no hatred against the Pashtuns, and from personal experience, this feeling is mutual from Afghan Pashtun side as well.

                  Beside I am not really sure if a lot of Pakistani Pashtuns can claim to be Eastern Iranic any more. they have mixed with Indics and look more Australoid than they do Eastern Iranic like Afghan Pashtuns:

                  Pakistani Pashtuns:



                  Afghan Pashtuns:




                  I don't get the ''flat head'' slur used on Tajiks on this forum either. By ''flat head'' I guess you guys mean:



                  Sure Tajiks have some Mongoloid, but it's miniscule and don't mean much in the grander scheme, specially Afghan Tajiks. Even in Tajikistani Tajiks where East Asian peaks in some regions, they still fall in the (Eastern) Iranic plateau spectrum phenotype wise.

                  Some examples of what Afghan Tajiks in my experience looks like:



                  I think these two are Afghan Tajiks as well, they look like Tajiks I have met:







                  Even in Tajikistani Tajiks, the Mongoloid is overestimated (the most Mongoloid looking Tajikistani scores between 12-18% East Asian), they don't all look East Asian, but some amount of Tajikistanis fall pretty easily into the (Eastern) Iranic spectrum of phenotypes (specially the half bordering Afghanistan, the more North you into Northeast Asia, the more Mongoloid it gets though):
                  There is no such a thing as Pakistani Pashtun or Japani Pashtun...there is only one Pashtun...lar aw bar yew Pashtun!


                  Look at back head of this guy...flat!

                  دکتر لطیف پدرام-Dr. Latif Pedram‎ - Timeline | Facebook
                  ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
                  نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

                  چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
                  نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

                  سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
                  بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

                  چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
                  يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

                  سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
                  په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

                  ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
                  اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Azmal View Post
                    There is no such a thing as Pakistani Pashtun or Japani Pashtun...there is only one Pashtun...lar aw bar yew Pashtun!


                    Look at back head of this guy...flat!

                    دکتر لطیف پدرام-Dr. Latif Pedram‎ - Timeline | Facebook
                    brother your posts don't make much sense...

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Forreigner View Post
                      brother your posts don't make much sense...
                      cut the crap Qué Cabrón!
                      ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
                      نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

                      چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
                      نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

                      سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
                      بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

                      چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
                      يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

                      سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
                      په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

                      ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
                      اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Azmal View Post
                        There is no such a thing as Pakistani Pashtun or Japani Pashtun...there is only one Pashtun...lar aw bar yew Pashtun!


                        Look at back head of this guy...flat!

                        دکتر لطیف پدرام-Dr. Latif Pedram‎ - Timeline | Facebook
                        yes there is. Pashtuns in Pakistan are Pakistanis, that's reality. Borders of Pakistan are officially accepted by most of the world. That's their nationality, wether you like it or not. so they will be refered as Paki Pashtuns or Pakistani Pashtuns or even Pathans, as Indics call them.

                        The Durrand Line is worldwide accepted, except by Afghanistan, and Afghanistan has not the power to do damn about it. so you Pashtuns in Pakistan are Pakistanis now, just like Punjabis. You even speak Urdu, an Indic language. a lot of you even look like punjabis and Indians. worse, you identify as Pakistani and support Pakistani government, enemy of Afghanistan.
                        Last edited by Forreigner; 09-01-2016, 06:04 PM.

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                        • #13
                          [MENTION=19462]Forreigner[/MENTION]

                          Your average Tajik looks like this:


                          And not like the pictures you show, just like not all Pashtuns look like this:

                          And how tf are Pashtuns more Australoid than Eastern Iranic? Our language is even Eastern Iranic, while Tajiks have lost any connections with Eastern Iranics. It's easy to just post several photos of blue eyed blonde haired Pashtuns, but that's not how the average Pashtun is like. Average Pashtun is something like this:

                          "If a lion comes and takes your share, go get it back from the mouth of the lion"

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Aryana View Post
                            [MENTION=19462]Forreigner[/MENTION]

                            Your average Tajik looks like this:


                            And not like the pictures you show, just like not all Pashtuns look like this:

                            And how tf are Pashtuns more Australoid than Eastern Iranic? Our language is even Eastern Iranic, while Tajiks have lost any connections with Eastern Iranics. It's easy to just post several photos of blue eyed blonde haired Pashtuns, but that's not how the average Pashtun is like. Average Pashtun is something like this:

                            As usual you spew BS. What does it mean that Tajiks have lost any connections with East Iranics? East Iranics were never a homogeneous group of people. Bactrians and Soghdians were sedentary and urbanized and excelled as traders, administrators/bureaucrats, scholars, farmers, etc. just like Tajiks in the medieval Islamic period and in the contemporary age.

                            Bactrians kept meticulous records and were skilled administrators, which is why many of them acquired prominent positions in Baghdad under the Abbasid caliphate. These are not functions traditionally associated with Pashtuns...Pashtun empires allocated these roles to Tajiks and Qizilbash. A good article by an Afghan scholar on these Bactrian documents-

                            In recent decades, the discovery of a series of legal and administrative documents from a previously understudied part of northern Afghanistan in a region known historically as Tụkhāristān has provided fertile ground for translations, editions and philological debates. The corpus consists of 195 documents and fragments drafted between the fourth and eighth centuries AD in various cities of Tụkhāristān,notably Rōb,which lies between Balkh and Bāmiyān.4 Thanks to the efforts of Nicholas Sims-Williams and Geoffrey Khan, we now have English translations of what are commonly referred to as “the Bactrian documents”. One set is written in the Bactrian language – an Iranian language using a cursive Greek script5 – and another in Arabic.6 These texts provide fresh data that can be brought into the historical discourse on the development of Central Asian zones from late antiquity to the rise and consolidation of Islam. Some historians have already started to do so. Patricia Crone, Étienne de la Vaissière and Khodadad Rezakhani have considered selected documents in order to answer questions on religious conversion, nationality (of the Hephthalites), and economic history, respectively.
                            Bulletin of the School of Oriental and African Studies Living happily ever after: fraternal polyandry, taxes and " the house " in early Islamic Bactria | Arezou Azad - Academia.edu

                            And you are in no place to act like an authority on how Tajiks look. They have a diverse range of looks just like Pashtuns.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                              Speaking of self hatred, Pakhpaloo, you spent your whole life being a Tajik and living in Tajik culture speaking Tajik language. You can't even mingle with real Pashtuns because you don't speak the language. You don't even have a tribal lineage m. You hail from a fake non existent Pashtun tribe according to yourself.

                              Yet you are here cursing and hating on Tajiks all the time. So stop projecting your own personality on others.
                              So.. you mean Azmal can't speak Pashto? lmao

                              So he is the typical Persianspeaker Pashtun who can't speak one single word of Pashto so he needs to compensate his lack of "Pashtunhood" by being extremely racist, obnoxious and bigoted on Tajiks, right?. Seems all Pashtun nationalist on this forum share this common pattern. Hilarious lol
                              "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
                              I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

                              -Ferdowsi.

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