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  • #31
    Shias and Wahabhis are two sides of the same coin, no difference at all between them, banning both is the best option for muslims countries and non muslim countries , banning sufism is a must too, as it is a satanic cult

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
      Insulting and making takfeer on sahaba and accusing them of adultery, homosexuality and usurpation is a crime in Sharia. There are specific punishments for these crimes.

      These things are already banned in mainstream Islam. But due to politics, governments overlook these practices and allow Shiites to cause problems. Allowing Shiites to do what they are doing enables ideologues of groups like ISIS to recruit Sunnis.

      Yes insulting people and making takfeer is banned in Shari'ah in general, but we can't be thought police. The worst we can do is make them pay fines and they'll incur punishmentin the afterlife if they don't repent.

      ISIS recruitment happened not because Sahaba Akram(ra) was "insulted" but because Sunnis has been marginalized by the Government and persecuted.

      Your response does not provide any meaningful solution.

      Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


      Originally posted by ذو الفقار
      don’t try to be smart.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Karachi View Post
        Shias and Wahabhis are two sides of the same coin, no difference at all between them, banning both is the best option for muslims countries and non muslim countries , banning sufism is a must too, as it is a satanic cult
        You should ban yourself from life by opening the gas stoves in your kitchen and lighting a match.

        Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


        Originally posted by ذو الفقار
        don’t try to be smart.

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        • #34
          I hold people like shamlawar responsible for the hatred against Shias that result in bomb blasts.

          "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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          • #35
            It would just lead to more ethnic and sectarian strife like the kind you saw in the 90s between Hazaras and Pashtun and Tajik militias. Hazaras and their perpetual victim complex can be vexing though.

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            • #36
              What do the Shia believe?
              One of the most influential leaders of Shiism, Khomeini explains:

              وأما الأخبار فما اشتملت على المؤمن فكذلك، وما اشتملت على الأخ لا تشملهم أيضا لعدم الأخوة بيننا وبينهم بعد وجوب البراءة عنهم وعن مذهبهم وعن أئمتهم، كما تدل عليه الأخبار واقتضته أصول المذهب،

              What is meant by the term 'mu'min' is strictly Shia ithn Ashariyyah (Twelver Shiites). Pertaining the narrations which are applicable on a mu'min', those are only meant for the Shia.
              Therefore, the ahaxith where 'your brother' is mentioned, the non-Shiite are not included. Because there is no brotherhood between the Imaami Shia and the non-Shiites
              In fact, het is obligatory to be hostile towards them, their school of thought and their leading scholars, based on the ahadeeth making this obligatory. (Tabarrah from the non-Shiites) is the core of our religion.

              Khomeini also said:

              فإنها في مقام تفسيرها اعتبرت الأخوة فيها، فغيرنا ليسوا بإخواننا

              So when brotherhood is mentioned in religious terms, one should know that the non-Shia are in no way our brothers.

              Source: Bad Request
              Originally posted by Firdousi
              Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                What do the Shia believe?
                One of the most influential leaders of Shiism, Khomeini explains:

                وأما الأخبار فما اشتملت على المؤمن فكذلك، وما اشتملت على الأخ لا تشملهم أيضا لعدم الأخوة بيننا وبينهم بعد وجوب البراءة عنهم وعن مذهبهم وعن أئمتهم، كما تدل عليه الأخبار واقتضته أصول المذهب،

                What is meant by the term 'mu'min' is strictly Shia ithn Ashariyyah (Twelver Shiites). Pertaining the narrations which are applicable on a mu'min', those are only meant for the Shia.
                Therefore, the ahaxith where 'your brother' is mentioned, the non-Shiite are not included. Because there is no brotherhood between the Imaami Shia and the non-Shiites
                In fact, het is obligatory to be hostile towards them, their school of thought and their leading scholars, based on the ahadeeth making this obligatory. (Tabarrah from the non-Shiites) is the core of our religion.

                Khomeini also said:

                فإنها في مقام تفسيرها اعتبرت الأخوة فيها، فغيرنا ليسوا بإخواننا

                So when brotherhood is mentioned in religious terms, one should know that the non-Shia are in no way our brothers.

                Source: Bad Request
                This is exactly what Salafis say to about Shias, I have been to Salafi gatherings before and the Shia hatred is open there. What is the difference? again you are two sides of the same coin, both Salafism and Shiasm has destroyed the muslim world, and cults like (sufism) has kept them backwards

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