Western Liberalism and Western Imperialism

[Firdousi]

You might be right to some degree, I'm not claiming that there aren't positive virtues of the West. I mean among my heroes are Euler, Gauss, Riemann and Milnor as well as Ibn Haytham, Shamil Daghestani and Mansur Al-Hallaj

I agree with you Europe is waning and the West overall is waning., but we have to be prepared for that moment as well. The West is banking on soft power, encouraging its cultural narrative abroad.

That Qandeel Baloch lady who was just killed, named Sunny Leone as one of her role models. that may seem insignificant, but go to wikipedia and look up both women and you'll understand what I mean.

The dysfunctional soft power has a domino effect which has a root system, within the social and cultural framework of Western Liberalism. But we should not take the idea that it is "Soft Power" lightly, soft power is the worst because it is a mental syndrome, it eats at the consciousness. My point is we should look at this from all fronts. Social, Cultural , Intellectual, and all else.

Having a critical stance against Western Liberalism is beneficial for everyone, even Westerners; they'll learn to be men again.

Thats the dark side of Western Liberalism: it encourages homosexuality, sexual promiscuity (I guess the ones like Karachi love their sisters to get bang*d 24/7 while he watches Fox News lol), individualism, selfishness, cowardice, weakness and so on.

Not really. I am not against Western soft power (not all of it I mean) even if I was that would be double standards: I really enjoy Western series, Western movies, Western books, Western clothes, Western philosophy, Western cuisine, and so on. I am not against that. I am against the way Wests wants to impose their way of life on us. We can and should learn from them but never get Westernized. Thats something sold out losers like Karachi will never understand.

[Karachi]

You coward, stop quoting me. I don't care about your inferiority complex. I don't live in the West nor I support Sharia. I have several times said that I want a system based on Islamic values and that at the same time respects human dignity. I will never support Western Liberalism basically because our values are way different than theirs. You will never understand this because you are a coward self hater idless sold out tw*t lol

what value? bacha bazi, honor killings, rape, terrorism, violence, slavery, and so much more.... these are all your values you are known for you dumb _ss

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Idiot again, just because I dont want Sharia, how is this serving westerners? Call me Indian instead or even hindu, at least that would make sense, we never had sharia in India

No, it's because you're catering to the political interests of politicians that hate anyone that doesn't cower to their social entitlement.

I didn't call you Hindu. I said Desi Baba.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

[MENTION=19424]Firdousi[/MENTION]

That in my opinion boils down to the "wheat from chaff" principle, taking things we can redirect or reorient in a more fruitful manner.There are many beautiful aspects of Western culture and heritage. I'm only talking about the ones that feature the bereft values of Western Liberalism.

Do you think Westerners of older generations don't complain about how corrupt the youth have become with their indecency and decadence? This is what I mean, Westerners themselves would benefit from it. The Elderly would be grateful for a restoration of time honored principles.

I talk to elderly Americans all the time, most have similar attitudes as we do.This isn't about bigotry, it's about justice. We are not in disagreement.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

what value? bacha bazi, honor killings, rape, terrorism, violence, slavery, and so much more.... these are all your values you are known for you dumb _ss

So we see you use the same generic talking points peddled by Western hegemonists.

What value? The value of family, of purity, of balance, of stability,

Bacha Bazi? - not a norm of the society, but something practiced by deviants on the margin. Who were galvanized and emboldened by destabilizing the society.

honor killing? - something that arises mainly because of the ebbing away at traditional morality of sexual decency. Not something that was prominent years ago, but something that spear headed when people's behavior when people were corrupted by silly movies and media

rape? - not a norm in the society

Values that we're known for? By whom? Your white masters who want to validate themselves as having a higher moral position when the opposite is true? That's called ignorance. We know what our values are, we don't need some servant boy in the British tea house to educate us.

Typical Desi who lacks any knowledge of natives but only learns from Gora Baba.

[Karachi]

So we see you use the same generic talking points peddled by Western hegemonists.

What value? The value of family, of purity, of balance, of stability,

Bacha Bazi? - not a norm of the society, but something practiced by deviants on the margin. Who were galvanized and emboldened by destabilizing the society.

honor killing? - something that arises mainly because of the ebbing away at traditional morality of sexual decency. Not something that was prominent years ago, but something that spear headed when people's behavior when people were corrupted by silly movies and media

rape? - not a norm in the society

Values that we're known for? By whom? Your white masters who want to validate themselves as having a higher moral position when the opposite is true? That's called ignorance. We know what our values are, we don't need some servant boy in the British tea house to educate us.

Typical Desi who lacks any knowledge of natives but only learns from Gora Baba.

you must be living under a cave if you believe muslims are that perfect, what a joke, thats why no one takes you seriously

[Karachi]

No, it's because you're catering to the political interests of politicians that hate anyone that doesn't cower to their social entitlement.

I didn't call you Hindu. I said Desi Baba.

um no, I am catering towards the interest of myself and what I believe in, nothing else

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

I see so the fact it matches and works in lock step with their political agenda is just an uncanny, out of this world coincidence .......riiiiiiight, who are you trying to convince here? us or yourself?

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

you must be living under a cave if you believe muslims are that perfect, what a joke, thats why no one takes you seriously

we're talking about values right? Then I don't see what the controversy is. I didn't say Muslims haven't had challenges.