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    Recently, some Pakistani politicians have gotten themselves into a physical fight with fellow Pakistanis. The reason for this fist fight was the recent battle in Torkham.

    The hostilities between Pakistani politicians reveals the fragility of Pakistani national unity.

    This weakness should be exploited by Afghans and those Pakistanis who are sincere Muslims and oppose the criminal Punjabi dominated secular government and the fascist army.

    Disunity and conflict will weaken Pakistan which will force America and India to act and disarm Pakistani nuclear weapons. Once the wmd's are neutralized, this cancerous state based on oppression, deception and corruption will crumble and disappear from the face of the earth. Maybe the. We can finally have peace and stability in the region.
    Originally posted by Firdousi
    Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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    lol

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    • #3
      shaitan might be locked away during ramazan but his offspring is roaming around, freely, spreading fitna.

      "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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      • #4
        Pakistan divided or intact doesn't matter because Pakistan is more of an ideology than a nationality.

        I have already given example as to how it is not necessary to be a citizen of Pakistan to be a Pakistani e.g All Muslims by default are Pakistan
        "[B][SIZE="3"]Seer Speen Wazeer[/SIZE][/B]"

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
          Pakistan divided or intact doesn't matter because Pakistan is more of an ideology than a nationality.

          I have already given example as to how it is not necessary to be a citizen of Pakistan to be a Pakistani e.g All Muslims by default are Pakistan
          An ideology of Kufr and shirk.
          Originally posted by Firdousi
          Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
            An ideology of Kufr and shirk.
            Task is to unite and protect the Ummah.
            "[B][SIZE="3"]Seer Speen Wazeer[/SIZE][/B]"

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
              Task is to unite and protect the Ummah.
              Try first becoming a Muslim in order to be part of the Sunnah before trying to unite the ummah.
              Originally posted by Firdousi
              Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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              • #8
                Any such move would be counter productive as it will be seen as a scheme by RAW against the Pakistani muslims and will play into their hands.

                We don't need any propaganda, we just need to ask for our basic right in both countries to practice our culture, get educated in our mother tongue and preserve our way of life. Pashtuns in both countries need more communication with each other so the misunderstandings can be removed. We need more youth to youth interaction in all fields of life. Once we see for ourselves how similar we are and strengthen this bond, we will naturally get united despite living in two different countries.

                Redefining international borders is out of our hands for now but instead of looking at this issue as glass half full we can be optimistic and look at the border as the place where both of us meet and are tied to each other. Rather than looking at the Durand Line as a border which divides us, we can look at it as a line which unites us. We can even change its name from Durand line among Pashtuns to "rorwali line" or "dosti line". We can redifine this line if we want. We just have to think outside the box and have the will and sincerity in our hearts.

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                • #9
                  Okay, why not Divide Pakistanis between Sindhis, Punjabis and Mohajirs?

                  Sorry, it is not going to get us anywhere.... already the Sikh Community is proof of Pakistnais already being divided.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                    Recently, some Pakistani politicians have gotten themselves into a physical fight with fellow Pakistanis. The reason for this fist fight was the recent battle in Torkham.

                    The hostilities between Pakistani politicians reveals the fragility of Pakistani national unity.

                    This weakness should be exploited by Afghans and those Pakistanis who are sincere Muslims and oppose the criminal Punjabi dominated secular government and the fascist army.

                    Disunity and conflict will weaken Pakistan which will force America and India to act and disarm Pakistani nuclear weapons. Once the wmd's are neutralized, this cancerous state based on oppression, deception and corruption will crumble and disappear from the face of the earth. Maybe the. We can finally have peace and stability in the region.

                    The only reason why Pashtun nationalists hate Pakistan is because Pashtun nationalists demand 80% of KPK, 20% of Balochistan( with maybe an outlet to the sea) and all of FATA to be part of Afghanistan.

                    In all honesty pal, i was a Pashtun nationalist but i have met Punjabi and Mohajir people irl. They are not bad people, they are okay people like you and me, and there is no reason to hate them . Just hate their government, as even they hate their government.


                    The only people you should hate are Pakistanized Pashtuns and the Pakistani government. Now, i consider Punjabis to be more friends to me than Pashtuns who cosnider themselves Pakistanis over Pashtunistanis.


                    I mean..... i don't know :/.......

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by kanishka View Post
                      The only reason why Pashtun nationalists hate Pakistan is because Pashtun nationalists demand 80% of KPK, 20% of Balochistan( with maybe an outlet to the sea) and all of FATA to be part of Afghanistan.

                      In all honesty pal, i was a Pashtun nationalist but i have met Punjabi and Mohajir people irl. They are not bad people, they are okay people like you and me, and there is no reason to hate them . Just hate their government, as even they hate their government.


                      The only people you should hate are Pakistanized Pashtuns and the Pakistani government. Now, i consider Punjabis to be more friends to me than Pashtuns who cosnider themselves Pakistanis over Pashtunistanis.


                      I mean..... i don't know :/.......
                      I dont have Punjabis. Neither is this topic nationalism. It's about abolishing the corrupt and evil Punjabi dominated government of Pakistan. It's not about giving Pashtuns what they want.
                      Originally posted by Firdousi
                      Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                        I dont have Punjabis. Neither is this topic nationalism. It's about abolishing the corrupt and evil Punjabi dominated government of Pakistan. It's not about giving Pashtuns what they want.
                        That is weird thing to wish. Wishing another group of people in this case Pakistanis to become slaves like Afghanis under occupation to feel better about one own state, pathetic shawarma

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Shapur View Post
                          Any such move would be counter productive as it will be seen as a scheme by RAW against the Pakistani muslims and will play into their hands.

                          We don't need any propaganda, we just need to ask for our basic right in both countries to practice our culture, get educated in our mother tongue and preserve our way of life. Pashtuns in both countries need more communication with each other so the misunderstandings can be removed. We need more youth to youth interaction in all fields of life. Once we see for ourselves how similar we are and strengthen this bond, we will naturally get united despite living in two different countries.

                          Redefining international borders is out of our hands for now but instead of looking at this issue as glass half full we can be optimistic and look at the border as the place where both of us meet and are tied to each other. Rather than looking at the Durand Line as a border which divides us, we can look at it as a line which unites us. We can even change its name from Durand line among Pashtuns to "rorwali line" or "dosti line". We can redifine this line if we want. We just have to think outside the box and have the will and sincerity in our hearts.


                          If redefining international borders is out of our hands then so should be redefining the line and changing its name...no? Last I check there is no “misunderstanding” between Pashtun as a people...Pakistani orchestrated propaganda not standing…we are one people---even our enemy can’t tell the difference as Pashtun were being target in Punjab for being Afghan refugee. The point is this thug war over Durand is being played by our enemy with well-defined agenda and purpose..like it or not we have to select a side...either we stand for our rights, identity and culture and fight for it or we will get squash using Islam as tool. I honestly don’t think it can get worst then this…we already have hit rock bottom. The good news is the world politics are in our favor now. Pakistan no longer serves the purpose it was built for by the outgoing British colonialists. It is now a complete liability that screams to be neutered either with or without Pakistani Military’s connivance. Instead of selecting another wait and watch…lets actively work for our interest.
                          ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
                          نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

                          چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
                          نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

                          سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
                          بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

                          چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
                          يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

                          سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
                          په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

                          ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
                          اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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                          • #14
                            http://www.thecharticle.in/umar-daud...r-freedom.html

                            Already start it...It will be wise to give this a religious flavor...as British used to say Afghan(Pashtuns) have religious fever---if you think the mullah that were aliened and humiliated by Punjabis will forgive them then you are mistaken....bring them together and play the card right.
                            ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
                            نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

                            چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
                            نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

                            سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
                            بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

                            چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
                            يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

                            سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
                            په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

                            ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
                            اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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                            • #15
                              http://thepashtuntimes.com/i-intense...sim-wali-khan/
                              ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
                              نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

                              چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
                              نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

                              سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
                              بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

                              چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
                              يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

                              سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
                              په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

                              ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
                              اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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