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  • Did Afghan refugees bring gun and drug culture to Pakistan?

    As Zai ul Haq mentions in his speech below, Pakistan allow Afghan refugees in not due humanitarian reason but to use these refugees to fight red army which wanted to reach warm waters—ultimate goal of soviet was occupation of Pakistan...thus it was SELF INTEREST nothing else!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVVg6cwqYoU

    Indeed according to national security advisor Brzezinski, the CIA's intervention in Afghanistan throw their proxies Pakistan precedes the 1979 Soviet invasion…thus arming of Afghans and later the refugees who fleed the soviets started by Pakistan not the other way around as most of Pakis absurdly claim afghan refugees bringing arm/gun to Pakistan.
    Same the case for drugs, opium cultivation was introduced by British Raj and thus it was from Pakistan--Angreez Meraskhor(succor of British Raj) that opium made it to Afghanistan and central Asia. British Governor-General of Bengal established a monopoly on the sale of opium which resulted in two wars with China. During Afghan-soviet war Pakistan encouraged opium cultivation in order to finance the war. Opium cultivation reached its boom when Afghan refugees returned from Pakistan in 90s…. ISI, Mossad, MI6 and the CIA, profited the most from opium and heroin production in the 80s in Afghanistan, the 60s and 70s in South East Asia and ongoing from Central and South American cocaine. In fact, the same Pakistani elites have been profiting from the drug trade as their master Angreez were at least since the days of the East India Company and the Russell Trust out of which the Skull and Bones was born.



    Here are some links that verifies Pakistan hand in drug tread.

    'Mid-1980s: Pakistani ISI and CIA Gain from Drug Production'

    https://www.cooperativeresearch.org/...m=amid80sisici...

    ISI role in drug trafficking bared
    https://www.indianexpress.com/res/we...19970607/15850...

    www.abc.net.au/foreign/stories/s416859.htm

    According to experts, the ISI has a track record of political assassination, state-sponsored terrorism, and drug running.



    Most important of all the Drug, gun culture and extremism was unheard to Afghanistan in 70s, most of which Afghan refugees learn while residing in Pakistan. It was Pakistan that shameful exploited deprived and brutalized Afghan youths nurtured in their refugee ghettos and indoctrinated in their immoral “madrassahs” so to wage their precious army’s wars against India and Afghanistan. Seriously how Pakistanis can pretend velour in place of what is otherwise a stupendous display of national cowardice is a charm only Pakistanis can lay claim to.
    ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
    نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

    چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
    نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

    سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
    بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

    چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
    يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

    سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
    په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

    ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
    اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

  • #2
    Exactly; ISI used CIA guidance on how to finance wars through drug trade, Just as CIA did in South America and South East Asia.

    Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


    Originally posted by ذو الفقار
    don’t try to be smart.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View Post
      Exactly; ISI used CIA guidance on how to finance wars through drug trade, Just as CIA did in South America and South East Asia.
      I doubt they would need CIA guidance, Pakistan establishment is the same missionary of British Raj..these people have had been profiting from drug trafficking since Russell Trust.
      ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
      نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

      چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
      نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

      سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
      بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

      چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
      يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

      سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
      په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

      ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
      اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Azmal View Post
        I doubt they would need CIA guidance, Pakistan establishment is the same missionary of British Raj..these people have had been profiting from drug trafficking since Russell Trust.
        Drugs, Oil, and War: The United States in Afghanistan, Colombia, and Indochina - Peter Dale Scott - Google Books

        Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


        Originally posted by ذو الفقار
        don’t try to be smart.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Azmal View Post
          As Zai ul Haq mentions in his speech below, Pakistan allow Afghan refugees in not due humanitarian reason but to use these refugees to fight red army which wanted to reach warm waters—ultimate goal of soviet was occupation of Pakistan...thus it was SELF INTEREST nothing else!

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVVg6cwqYoU

          Indeed according to national security advisor Brzezinski, the CIA's intervention in Afghanistan throw their proxies Pakistan precedes the 1979 Soviet invasion…thus arming of Afghans and later the refugees who fleed the soviets started by Pakistan not the other way around as most of Pakis absurdly claim afghan refugees bringing arm/gun to Pakistan.
          Same the case for drugs, opium cultivation was introduced by British Raj and thus it was from Pakistan--Angreez Meraskhor(succor of British Raj) that opium made it to Afghanistan and central Asia. British Governor-General of Bengal established a monopoly on the sale of opium which resulted in two wars with China. During Afghan-soviet war Pakistan encouraged opium cultivation in order to finance the war. Opium cultivation reached its boom when Afghan refugees returned from Pakistan in 90s…. ISI, Mossad, MI6 and the CIA, profited the most from opium and heroin production in the 80s in Afghanistan, the 60s and 70s in South East Asia and ongoing from Central and South American cocaine. In fact, the same Pakistani elites have been profiting from the drug trade as their master Angreez were at least since the days of the East India Company and the Russell Trust out of which the Skull and Bones was born.



          Here are some links that verifies Pakistan hand in drug tread.

          'Mid-1980s: Pakistani ISI and CIA Gain from Drug Production'

          https://www.cooperativeresearch.org/...m=amid80sisici...

          ISI role in drug trafficking bared
          https://www.indianexpress.com/res/we...19970607/15850...

          www.abc.net.au/foreign/stories/s416859.htm

          According to experts, the ISI has a track record of political assassination, state-sponsored terrorism, and drug running.



          Most important of all the Drug, gun culture and extremism was unheard to Afghanistan in 70s, most of which Afghan refugees learn while residing in Pakistan. It was Pakistan that shameful exploited deprived and brutalized Afghan youths nurtured in their refugee ghettos and indoctrinated in their immoral “madrassahs” so to wage their precious army’s wars against India and Afghanistan. Seriously how Pakistanis can pretend velour in place of what is otherwise a stupendous display of national cowardice is a charm only Pakistanis can lay claim to.
          Manana wrora, this just yet again proves of the cowardly, opportunistic and two-faced nature of Porkistanis. Thank God that they too are now suffering as a result of their cowardly actions of funding the drug trade, there are now over 4 million heroin addicts in Porkistan.
          "If a lion comes and takes your share, go get it back from the mouth of the lion"

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          • #6
            Yes it's true, before afghanis came Pakistanis didn't had any idea about drugs or ak-47.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Golden View Post
              Yes it's true, before afghanis came Pakistanis didn't had any idea about drugs or ak-47.

              War and Drugs: The Role of Military Conflict in the Development of Substance ... - Dessa K. Bergen-Cico - Google Books

              "According to Ahmar Mustikhan among Pakistanis that the military junta that ruled Pakistan in the 1980's, was responsible for their country's heroin crises"
              Last edited by Iblis_Efreetzai; 06-16-2016, 03:49 AM.

              Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


              Originally posted by ذو الفقار
              don’t try to be smart.

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              • #8
                Pakistan and Afghanistan had the opportunity to develop long term close relations but rude Afghan leaders missed the opportunity by being opposed to Pakistan throughout the initial decades.
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                • #9
                  To be fair Afghanistan had every right to oppose Pakistan since Khyber Pashtunkhwah and Pashtun regions of Balochitsna was jerrymandered into Pakistan from properly Afghan territory. While Pakistan and Afghanistan are both manufactured states, Pashtun inhabited areas were not apart of India proper under the British magistrate.

                  However, Afghanistan should stop holding onto the past and accept that Pakistan exists now, regardless of how it came about and rather influence Pashtuns of Pakistan socially and culturally rather than politically.

                  Pakistan should stop trying to dictate to Afghanistan what kind of relationship Afghanistan should have with India; if India offers opportunities for development; this should be celebrated by everyone.

                  Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                  Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                  don’t try to be smart.

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                  • #10
                    A very useful link, i am going to use it for a thread in defence.pk. Pakistanis lie when they blame Afghanistan for AK7 and drug culture in Pakistan.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Samandri View Post
                      A very useful link, i am going to use it for a thread in defence.pk. Pakistanis lie when they blame Afghanistan for AK7 and drug culture in Pakistan.
                      Honestly I have nothing against Pakistanis as human beings and as Muslims; but Pakistani Nationalists have to learn to be honest to themselves and look at things objective.

                      In some ways Afghans are misguidedly resentful of Pakistanis; in others Afghans have legitimate reasons to find grievance with Pakistan. This is definitely one of them.

                      Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                      Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                      don’t try to be smart.

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