Hats off to cultured people of Herat, seeing Photo of Shahid Sardar Doud during opening ceremony of Band e Salaam truly shows high culture of Herati people and how good deed will always be valued—even after 40 years of death.
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ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه
چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه
سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه
چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه
سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه
ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو
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Wow, thank you Azmal jaan, but thought we were "Amu Jumpers".. what did it happen? lmaoOriginally posted by Azmal View PostHats off to cultured people of Herat, seeing Photo of Shahid Sardar Doud during opening ceremony of Band e Salaam truly shows high culture of Herati people and how good deed will always be valued—even after 40 years of death.
As an Herati well I must say Daud Khan was a good president. He worked hard in order to bring progress and development to our country. He also boosted Persian language and Persian culture among the Afghan society and the government.
Unfortunately Daud Khan was a sensitive fool. His stupid Pashtun nationalist mindset led our country to a fatal confrontation with Pakistan. He screwed everything up. But I must say at least he realized that Pashtunistan policy was a lost cause so at the end he gave up. Pashtun fascists killed the poor man.
May he rest in peace. Indeed he was a great Afghan leader, patron of Persian culture and language but unfortunately he was kinda confused because Pashtun fascism."For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "
-Ferdowsi.
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Originally posted by Firdousi View PostWow, thank you Azmal jaan, but thought we were "Amu Jumpers".. what did it happen? lmao
As an Herati well I must say Daud Khan was a good president. He worked hard in order to bring progress and development to our country. He also boosted Persian language and Persian culture among the Afghan society and the government.
Unfortunately Daud Khan was a sensitive fool. His stupid Pashtun nationalist mindset led our country to a fatal confrontation with Pakistan. He screwed everything up. But I must say at least he realized that Pashtunistan policy was a lost cause so at the end he gave up. Pashtun fascists killed the poor man.
May he rest in peace. Indeed he was a great Afghan leader, patron of Persian culture and language but unfortunately he was kinda confused because Pashtun fascism.
After coming back to Pashtunforums after a couple of years absence...its sad to see it has come to this, that farsiwan racists who call for Pashtun regions to be carpet bombed because they full of terrorists is pretty sad.....Listen to be fair...it would be great idea you take your Persian crap, your mongolian blood and Herati non sense back to Iran where you will feel safer away from the so called "pashtun fascists"....one less crap hole like Herat the better to progress.We already got so many problems.
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Herat as a whole province is majority Pashtun, only the center is full of your flat headed immigrants. But that like in every major city around the world, even in Europe every big city is full of immigrants, like in Brussels, Berlin and Paris. So please dont flatter yourself by thinking that everything was done by you. If you told to Daud about your persian crap, he would have killed you on the spot toghether with other farsibans and Pashtuns of that time.Originally posted by Firdousi View PostWow, thank you Azmal jaan, but thought we were "Amu Jumpers".. what did it happen? lmao
As an Herati well I must say Daud Khan was a good president. He worked hard in order to bring progress and development to our country. He also boosted Persian language and Persian culture among the Afghan society and the government.
Unfortunately Daud Khan was a sensitive fool. His stupid Pashtun nationalist mindset led our country to a fatal confrontation with Pakistan. He screwed everything up. But I must say at least he realized that Pashtunistan policy was a lost cause so at the end he gave up. Pashtun fascists killed the poor man.
May he rest in peace. Indeed he was a great Afghan leader, patron of Persian culture and language but unfortunately he was kinda confused because Pashtun fascism.
So please stop embarasing yourself. Every post of you about so called persian culture is so cringe worthy its makes me puk.
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You are as much a Herati as Hamid Gul was a Pashtun...but that those are minor details.Originally posted by Firdousi View PostWow, thank you Azmal jaan, but thought we were "Amu Jumpers".. what did it happen? lmao
As an Herati well I must say Daud Khan was a good president. He worked hard in order to bring progress and development to our country. He also boosted Persian language and Persian culture among the Afghan society and the government.
Unfortunately Daud Khan was a sensitive fool. His stupid Pashtun nationalist mindset led our country to a fatal confrontation with Pakistan. He screwed everything up. But I must say at least he realized that Pashtunistan policy was a lost cause so at the end he gave up. Pashtun fascists killed the poor man.
May he rest in peace. Indeed he was a great Afghan leader, patron of Persian culture and language but unfortunately he was kinda confused because Pashtun fascism.
I honestly don't understand why a Qazilbash like you who is Turk in race, Shia in religion but have adopted Farsi is doing in a Pashtun forum?ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه
چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه
سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه
چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه
سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه
ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو
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I want to learn more about my fellow Pashtun countrymen. So far I have some mixed feelings: many Pashtuns here are educated and pretty cerebral. On the other hand some Pashtuns are typical Pashtun fascists with a caveman mindset (Pashtuns like this are known in Khorasan as "naaqeleen"). You are a good example of this last kind of people.Originally posted by Azmal View PostYou are as much a Herati as Hamid Gul was a Pashtun...but that those are minor details.
I honestly don't understand why a Qazilbash like you who is Turk in race, Shia in religion but have adopted Farsi is doing in a Pashtun forum?
In any case, religion is a private matter, brother. This is something you fascist people fail to understand. You want to kill everyone who disagree with you. Thats why you are suffering so much and all your neighbors are taking advantage of your warmonger mentality.
"For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "
-Ferdowsi.
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Well brother unlike you I have been in Afghanistan. I was born in there and spent most of life in there. So I know the ground reality of my country. True there are many Pashtuns in Herat: Adraskan, Pashtun Zarghoon, Shindand, Torgwhoondi and Islam Qala are mainly inhabited by Pashtuns. Of course there are plenty of Tajiks living in there as well(Ismael Khan is a Tajik from Chahar Mahal, Shindand). The rest of the province is Tajik: Herat city, Inyil, Chisti, Ghoryan, Farsi, Guzara, Karokh, Obe, Kushki Koahna and so on are Tajiks. Of course many Pashtuns live there too. Herat is an mixed ethnic province like all Afghanistan. In Kandahar like 30% of the people are Tajiks (mainly Qizilbash people such as Ayatollah Mohseni). There are many Pashtuns in Tajik provinces and many Tajiks in Pashtun provinces. You are completely confused.Originally posted by Khostai View PostHerat as a whole province is majority Pashtun, only the center is full of your flat headed immigrants. But that like in every major city around the world, even in Europe every big city is full of immigrants, like in Brussels, Berlin and Paris. So please dont flatter yourself by thinking that everything was done by you. If you told to Daud about your persian crap, he would have killed you on the spot toghether with other farsibans and Pashtuns of that time.
So please stop embarasing yourself. Every post of you about so called persian culture is so cringe worthy its makes me puk.
But unlike Pashtuns and their tribal fascist mentality, we are tolerant people. We love our fellow Pashtun brothers and we consider them our brothers. They speak Farsi with Herati accent, they celebrate Nowruz, they support Jamiat-e Islami (I am not a big fan of them though), they have intermarried to Tajiks,.. and so on. There is no reason to hate them nor to make them feel immigrants in their own land. Ethnicity is not important, culture is. Just look at mr Rangin Dadfar: he is half Pashtun and half Tajik and he is a proud supporter of Tajik culture. Even in his last interview he claimed to reject Pashtun fascism (he even started to say Danishgah as a protest against Pashtun fascism), and so on. Why should I hate him? Just because his father was Pashtun? Thats BS, bro. You really need to stop with this fascist mentality and start having some respect for every human being regardless his ethnic or religious background.
Sepaas."For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "
-Ferdowsi.
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Why should I go to Iran when I am a Tajik from Afghanistan? Iran means nothing to me, specially their fascist regime. Brother, be honest here: just like you want progress for Pashtuns and Pashtun people I want the same thing for my fellow Tajiks and my culture.Originally posted by Soldat_Amir View PostAfter coming back to Pashtunforums after a couple of years absence...its sad to see it has come to this, that farsiwan racists who call for Pashtun regions to be carpet bombed because they full of terrorists is pretty sad.....Listen to be fair...it would be great idea you take your Persian crap, your mongolian blood and Herati non sense back to Iran where you will feel safer away from the so called "pashtun fascists"....one less crap hole like Herat the better to progress.We already got so many problems."For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "
-Ferdowsi.
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Originally posted by Firdousi View PostI want to learn more about my fellow Pashtun countrymen. So far I have some mixed feelings: many Pashtuns here are educated and pretty cerebral. On the other hand some Pashtuns are typical Pashtun fascists with a caveman mindset (Pashtuns like this are known in Khorasan as "naaqeleen"). You are a good example of this last kind of people.
In any case, religion is a private matter, brother. This is something you fascist people fail to understand. You want to kill everyone who disagree with you. Thats why you are suffering so much and all your neighbors are taking advantage of your warmonger mentality.
What is Khurasan? It never existence as a country or even a kingdom… It simply means a place where sun raises. Babur in Baburi Nama mentions :
Just as 'Arabs call every place outside 'Arab (Arabia), ' Ajam, so Hindustanis call every place outside Hindustan, Khurasan. There are two trade-marts on the land-route between Hindustan and Khurasan ; one is Kabul, the other, Qandahar. To Kabul caravans come from Kashghar,^ Farghana,Turkistan, Samarkand, Bukhara, Balkh, Hisar and Badakhshan. To Qandahar they come from Khurasan. Kabul is an excellent trading-centre ; if merchants went to Khita or to Rum,3 they might make nohigher profit. Down to Kabul every year come 7, 8, or 10,000 horses and up to it, from Hindustan, come every year caravans of 10, 15 or 20,000 heads-of-houses, bringing slaves {bar da), white cloth, sugar-candy, refined and common sugars, and aromatic roots. Many a trader is not content with a profit of 30 or 40 on 10."^ In Kabul can be had the products of Khurasan, Rum,
'Iraq and Chin (China) ; while it is Hindustan's own market."
"The road from Kabul into Khurasan passes through Qandahar"
https://archive.org/stream/baburnama...uuoft_djvu.txt
Kabul, Qandhar and much of North was never part called Khorassan, yet you are trying to forge history and create fake identity but that is not the only forgery… just like Dr Nabeel Qureshi an Ahmadi convert to Christianity you are trying to portray yourself as Sunni, you are a Shia and a Qazilbash not a Sunni Tajik. I have nothing against your race or your religion, but why are you acting as something you are not?ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه
چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه
سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه
چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه
سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه
ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو
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Brother, Khorasan was the greatest nation on earth! Cultural capital of the world! Homeland of great wisemen such as Ibn Sina, Ferdowsi, Khayyam, Biruni, Juzjani, Faryabi, Khwarezmi, Attari, Rudaki,.. and so on! Afghanistan, with all due respect, is a british made creation, homeland of Taliban, You see why I can't support Afghanistan under its current circumstances? lolOriginally posted by Azmal View PostWhat is Khurasan? It never existence as a country or even a kingdom… It simply means a place where sun raises. Babur in Baburi Nama mentions :
Just as 'Arabs call every place outside 'Arab (Arabia), ' Ajam, so Hindustanis call every place outside Hindustan, Khurasan. There are two trade-marts on the land-route between Hindustan and Khurasan ; one is Kabul, the other, Qandahar. To Kabul caravans come from Kashghar,^ Farghana,Turkistan, Samarkand, Bukhara, Balkh, Hisar and Badakhshan. To Qandahar they come from Khurasan. Kabul is an excellent trading-centre ; if merchants went to Khita or to Rum,3 they might make nohigher profit. Down to Kabul every year come 7, 8, or 10,000 horses and up to it, from Hindustan, come every year caravans of 10, 15 or 20,000 heads-of-houses, bringing slaves {bar da), white cloth, sugar-candy, refined and common sugars, and aromatic roots. Many a trader is not content with a profit of 30 or 40 on 10."^ In Kabul can be had the products of Khurasan, Rum,
'Iraq and Chin (China) ; while it is Hindustan's own market."
"The road from Kabul into Khurasan passes through Qandahar"
https://archive.org/stream/baburnama...uuoft_djvu.txt
Kabul, Qandhar and much of North was never part called Khorassan, yet you are trying to forge history and create fake identity but that is not the only forgery… just like Dr Nabeel Qureshi an Ahmadi convert to Christianity you are trying to portray yourself as Sunni, you are a Shia and a Qazilbash not a Sunni Tajik. I have nothing against your race or your religion, but why are you acting as something you are not?
Last edited by Shapur; 06-13-2016, 12:09 PM."For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "
-Ferdowsi.
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Originally posted by Firdousi View PostWell brother unlike you I have been in Afghanistan. I was born in there and spent most of life in there. So I know the ground reality of my country. True there are many Pashtuns in Herat: Adraskan, Pashtun Zarghoon, Shindand, Torgwhoondi and Islam Qala are mainly inhabited by Pashtuns. Of course there are plenty of Tajiks living in there as well(Ismael Khan is a Tajik from Chahar Mahal, Shindand). The rest of the province is Tajik: Herat city, Inyil, Chisti, Ghoryan, Farsi, Guzara, Karokh, Obe, Kushki Koahna and so on are Tajiks. Of course many Pashtuns live there too. Herat is an mixed ethnic province like all Afghanistan. In Kandahar like 30% of the people are Tajiks (mainly Qizilbash people such as Ayatollah Mohseni). There are many Pashtuns in Tajik provinces and many Tajiks in Pashtun provinces. You are completely confused.
But unlike Pashtuns and their tribal fascist mentality, we are tolerant people. We love our fellow Pashtun brothers and we consider them our brothers. They speak Farsi with Herati accent, they celebrate Nowruz, they support Jamiat-e Islami (I am not a big fan of them though), they have intermarried to Tajiks,.. and so on. There is no reason to hate them nor to make them feel immigrants in their own land. Ethnicity is not important, culture is. Just look at mr Rangin Dadfar: he is half Pashtun and half Tajik and he is a proud supporter of Tajik culture. Even in his last interview he claimed to reject Pashtun fascism (he even started to say Danishgah as a protest against Pashtun fascism), and so on. Why should I hate him? Just because his father was Pashtun? Thats BS, bro. You really need to stop with this fascist mentality and start having some respect for every human being regardless his ethnic or religious background.
Sepaas.
I was also born in Afghanistan and also spent enough time there to know that tajiks culture and language does not excist.
You can make a fake persona on the internet to fool some punjabis and westerners but the rest of us know who you flat head immigrants who ran away from sovjet russians truelly are. You have shown enough of your fasict face to every one so calling me fascist will not make you sound any better.
And please stop calling yourself persian its getting really sad and pathetic now.
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Don't mind Soldat_Amier ...he's converted to Eastern Orthodox ferangai religion just to appease his Russian wife; any claim of "Pashtun Pride" is a joke.Originally posted by Firdousi View PostWhy should I go to Iran when I am a Tajik from Afghanistan? Iran means nothing to me, specially their fascist regime. Brother, be honest here: just like you want progress for Pashtuns and Pashtun people I want the same thing for my fellow Tajiks and my culture.
he has a whole bunch of videos on Youtube where he bootlicks Serbian and Eastern European hoodlums.
Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."
Originally posted by ذو الفقارdon’t try to be smart.
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Did not know that. I bet he can't even speak properly Pashto like the average Pashtun nationalist on this forum lolOriginally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View PostDon't mind Soldat_Amier ...he's converted to Eastern Orthodox ferangai religion just to appease his Russian wife; any claim of "Pashtun Pride" is a joke.
he has a whole bunch of videos on Youtube where he bootlicks Serbian and Eastern European hoodlums."For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "
-Ferdowsi.
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No he can speak Pashto, he's just an odd nut and a bit unstable...he's Not the AFB type desperately seeking an identity. He just lacks a back bone.Originally posted by Firdousi View PostDid not know that. I bet he can't even speak properly Pashto like the average Pashtun nationalist on this forum lol
Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."
Originally posted by ذو الفقارdon’t try to be smart.
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