What would 'Great Afghanistan' actually look like?

[Khostai]

By the way Tajiks did not "name" their language Dari. Dari comes from Darbar, which was an official court dialect of Farsi, used by Central Asian principalities and kingdoms. It's like when Pashtuns call their dialects "Kandari" or "Paktiawal" or "Khostwal" . Sheeesh

Yes they do call it like that, those little fuc.kes even get engry if you say do you speak farsi to them in Afghanistan, they will replay in irritated tone I speak Dari, like it something diffrent or special than farsi. And Yes I agree too that Dari and Farsi is the same. But due to their inferiority complex they always try to make themself look special and diffrent. Becuase Farsi and Persian in afghanistan is a label for shia, who are now seen as not even proper muslims.

[Firdousi]

By the way Tajiks did not "name" their language Dari. Dari comes from Darbar, which was an official court dialect of Farsi, used by Central Asian principalities and kingdoms. It's like when Pashtuns call their dialects "Kandari" or "Paktiawal" or "Khostwal" . Sheeesh

Tajiks always called their language "Farsi". "Dari" is term imposed on us by the Pashtun rulers for political reasons. We still call ourselves "Farsizabon". Even Pashtuns call us "Parsibaan" or "Parsiwaan".

There is no difference between Persian and Dari. Just few loanwords ("Dari" got less Arabic, Turkish and Kurdhis words and more Bactrian, Soghdian and even few Pashto words) and also different accents. But at the end of the day its the same language.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

I couldn't find pictures of men, so these are just children/youth
This is the average Tajik, only a bit less Mongoloid:

http://api.ning.com/files/pgHCO1djFo69G2g4J2BX9t3diBJwjCP6dlcBjHUGhKE5Nob6Z7ofj9F6ke*DoNS6OozQcfiF2RF0liXJ7kVcmkap7PzwNtCE/photo_KatharinaBeck_Lutfiya128.JPG

This is the average Iranian:

http://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs...an-pic-epa.jpg

I only don't see much difference between the two. There are some more Mongol looking Iranians as well.

This is the average Pashtun:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-tiqSM4jE9a...cc81816d_z.jpg

LOL I would believe this girl is Pashtun; but definitely not the "AVERAGE" Pashtun; most Pashtuns don't have colored eyes and there are Iranians who look JUST like that. In fact there are Punjabis who look like that too and from Tajiks of Tajikistan..and even some Turkic Uygur women

In fact this Uyghur lady:



could be a grown up Auntie of that girl; she could be Shaperai Naghma's sister.

Yeah, you're right. They're exactly the same! (

cherry picked pictures are not random samples. these would not tell us anything about the average physical similarities or differences of the region.

[Khostai]

Tajiks always called their language "Farsi". "Dari" is term imposed on us by the Pashtun rulers for political reasons. We still call ourselves "Farsizabon". Even Pashtuns call us "Parsibaan" or "Parsiwaan".

There is no difference between Persian and Dari. Just few loanwords ("Dari" got less Arabic, Turkish and Kurdhis words and more Bactrian, Soghdian and even few Pashto words) and also different accents. But at the end of the day its the same language.

Again with so called victim complex, you guys are even worser than negros in USA, at least those people had real hardship and slavery unlike you, who nag about nothing, LOL

[Samandri]

I only don't see much difference between the two. There are some more Mongol looking Iranians as well.





LOL I would believe this girl is Pashtun; but definitely not the "AVERAGE" Pashtun; most Pashtuns don't have colored eyes and there are Iranians who look JUST like that. In fact there are Punjabis who look like that too and from Tajiks of Tajikistan..and even some Turkic Uygur women

In fact this Uyghur lady:



could be a grown up Auntie of that girl; she could be Shaperai Naghma's sister.







cherry picked pictures are not random samples. these would not tell us anything about the average physical similarities or differences of the region.

I think the most honest approach would be to have look at the elected representatives of each Pashtun district. Lets have look at the faces of MNAs of FATA, who are reputed to be purest Pashtuns among Pakistani ones by people of Afghanistan. Out of ten, only one Afridi MNA has green eyes, and one Wazir MNA seem to have hazel eyes.

MNA of Kurram agency :

Sajid Hussain Turi



MNA from Mohmand agency: Bilal Rehman

MNA of North Waziristan: Muhammad Nazir Khan



MNA south Waziristan : Ghalib Khan



MNA from South Waziristan: Muhammad Jamal ud Din



MNA Bajaur agency :Bismillah Khan



MNA Bajaur agency : Shahab Ud Din Khan



Afridis MNAs from Khyber and Dara

[Golden]

I think the most honest approach would be to have look at the elected representatives of each Pashtun district. Lets have look at the faces of MNAs of FATA, who are reputed to be purest Pashtuns among Pakistani ones by people of Afghanistan. Out of ten, only one Afridi MNA has green eyes, and one Wazir MNA seem to have hazel eyes.

MNA of Kurram agency : [LEFT]Sajid Hussain Turi



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this Turi guy indeed look more like politicians from punjab

[Aryana]

I only don't see much difference between the two. There are some more Mongol looking Iranians as well.


LOL I would believe this girl is Pashtun; but definitely not the "AVERAGE" Pashtun; most Pashtuns don't have colored eyes and there are Iranians who look JUST like that. In fact there are Punjabis who look like that too and from Tajiks of Tajikistan..and even some Turkic Uygur women

In fact this Uyghur lady:



could be a grown up Auntie of that girl; she could be Shaperai Naghma's sister.

cherry picked pictures are not random samples. these would not tell us anything about the average physical similarities or differences of the region.

Of course in your mind they are the same, that is to be expected from a person like you.

Also, a lot of Pashtuns have coloured eyes. Blonde hair might not be as prevalent but coloured eyes (blue or green) is very common amongst Pashtuns.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Of course in your mind they are the same, that is to be expected from a person like you.

Also, a lot of Pashtuns have coloured eyes. Blonde hair might not be as prevalent but coloured eyes (blue or green) is very common amongst Pashtuns.

I never said they look the same, just not that much different, If you take a random sample of Pashtuns you can find this same degree of variance.

Only people not from Afghanistan think Colored eyes is the "average" Pashtun. They base their understanding on internet pictures not living and walking around Pashtuns. Yes lots of Pashtuns have colored eyes, but definitely not the average.

[Taghwar]

The J haplogroup is Semitic. Bengali Brahmins have a lot of R1a because they exclusively marry only people whom they consider "pure Aryans".

No need to get so emotional, we all know that you're insecure, calling me retarded and an idiot from behind a screen. You think you're a warrior now eh?

Lol, R1a is found in more frequency in South Asia rather than Afghanistan. Bengalis have r1a upto 72% way more than Pashtuns

[Aryana]

Lol, R1a is found in more frequency in South Asia rather than Afghanistan. Bengalis have r1a upto 72% way more than Pashtuns

Don't know where you're getting your r1a distribution maps from, but it's a fact it's very prevalent amongst Pashtuns. Only the high caste Hindus have r1a because of selective breeding. They consciously only marry other high caste "Aryans".

[Taghwar]

Don't know where you're getting your r1a distribution maps from, but it's a fact it's very prevalent amongst Pashtuns. Only the high caste Hindus have r1a because of selective breeding. They consciously only marry other high caste "Aryans".

A recent study taking samples from 62 different South Asian populations found that they all belong to r1a-z93
Eurogenes Blog: South Asian R1a in the 1 Genomes Project

Furthermore
R1a1 is found at 63% in the Khatris of Punjab (Underhill et al, 2009), which is more than some studies put the Pashtuns at.
European Journal of Human Genetics - Separating the post-Glacial coancestry of European and Asian Y chromosomes within haplogroup R1a

*List of R1a frequency by population - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Khostai]

whats so special about R1a? Can somebody explain?

[Aryana]

whats so special about R1a? Can somebody explain?

R1a is an Indo-European (basically Aryan) haplogroup. R1a gene is most frequent amongst Russians, Polish, and Pashtuns.

[Khostai]

R1a is an Indo-European (basically Aryan) haplogroup. R1a gene is most frequent amongst Russians, Polish, and Pashtuns.

Arent Polish and Russians suposed to be slavs?

[Taghwar]

R1a is an Indo-European (basically Aryan) haplogroup. R1a gene is most frequent amongst Russians, Polish, and Pashtuns.

The people with the most r1a percentages in their populations are the Mohannas of Pakistan (71%) and Khatris of Punjab (62%). Also Bengalee Brahmins with (72%). Pashtuns dont even compare

List of R1a frequency by population - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia