Why I think Mullah Mansour got toasted in Baluchistan

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

There are many theories about the way Mansour got killed and why he got killed.

Some say Iran sold him out and gave him away, others claim Americans have superior intel and can kill any Taliban or AQ leader. Some others say Pakistan sold him out because he tried to befriend Iran.

Personally I'm gravitating towards the last. I believe there are many factions inside Taliban and external entities like the Pakistani government who are against closer ties between Taliban and Iran.

Within Taliban movement, many groups want to preserve a safe distance with the Iranian regime due to religious reasons. There are also supporters of Taliban in Gulf countries and in Pakistan who are all opposed to Iranians.

These groups wouldn't want the movement to become an ally of Iran in the political arena.

Pakistan and the Gulf states also oppose Iranian foreign policy. They wouldn't want to see Taliban becoming an asset of Iranian global agenda.

Pakistan also wants to control Afghan Taliban movement and have the most influence on the outcome of the ongoing conflict.

Therefore, I believe Mansour's movement in Baluchistan near Iranian border was tipped off either by ISI or anti Iranian elements within Taliban movement.

Iran benefits from having better ties with certain sunni groups. Due to the conflict in Syria, Iran is loosing support within Sunni world. A diplomatic friendship with the Taliban would benefit Iran in Asia and the subcontinent.

Therefore, I don't think the Iranians were responsible for his death.

[Samandri]

There are many theories about the way Mansour got killed and why he got killed.

Some say Iran sold him out and gave him away, others claim Americans have superior intel and can kill any Taliban or AQ leader. Some others say Pakistan sold him out because he tried to befriend Iran.

Personally I'm gravitating towards the last. I believe there are many factions inside Taliban external entities like the Pakistani government who are against closer ties between Taliban and Iran.

Within Taliban movement, many groups want to preserve a safe distance with the Iranian regime due to religious reasons. There are also supporters of Taliban in Gulf countries and in Pakistan who are all opposed to Iranians.

These groups wouldn't want the movement to beome an ally of Iran in the political arena.

Pakistan and the Gulf states also oppose Iranian foreign policy. They wouldn't want to see Taliban becoming an asset of Iranian global agenda.

Pakistan also wants to control Afghan Taliban movement and have the most influence on the outcome of the ongoing conflict.

Therefore, I believe Mansour's movement in Baluchistan near Iranian border was tipped off either by ISI or anti Iranian elements within Taliban movement.

Iran benefits from having better ties with certain sunni groups. Due to the conflict in Syria, Iran is loosing support within Sunni world. A diplomatic friendship with the Taliban would benefit Iran in Asia and the subcontinent.

Therefore, I don't think the Iranians were responsible for his death.

I concur

[Golden]

Pakistan is going out of way to denounce this drone strike. If what you say is true then it's likely because Pakistan want Taliban to believe they had nothing to do with it. One reason could be we don't want more maniacs blowing themselves up in market of Peshawar to take revenge. Terrorism in Pakistan have decreased over 85% since 2013.

Or maybe Pakistan didn't had anything to do with it. Pakistan would like to have some influence on Taliban if peace talks are success. Because current Afghan government have sold themselves to India and will do anything to please masters from Delhi.

[ANAcommander]

Hi,

Shamlawar you Irani ghulam.

Why the **** would Pakistan instruct to kill Mansoor in it's own territory, If he was literally coming from Iran border? Do you have any common sense, or is your brain just filled with PAKI PAKI bull**** nonsense? And history of pashtuns is stupid for agreeing with you. If Pakistan knew about this targeted killing, then ISPR would have had a statement ready immediately. They are still silent over the entire matter. Apparently the US drone was in Afghan air space and launched a rocket on the car that had just crossed from Iran.

So tell me one thing Shamlawar. Mansoor was traveling to Pakistan, Murree talks, Dubai, Iran, with open permission. Why the **** did your Nato saviors not do anything to him while he was flying international flights? They could have easily killed or captured him in Dubai. So now that he entered Pakistan in a car from Iranian border, he was killed 3 minutes in...

Mansoor was pro-Pakistani, why the **** would Pak establishment try to kill him off? The reason is that they did not. The Iranians leaked info and the Americans ran forward with Indian approval.

How stupid can one be.


The taliban hung Iranian diplomats to become allies with them in the future.. How Hilarious..?

The filthy Iranian, Indian, Afghan, and US dogs have all turned against Pakistan and the Afghan taliban. Are you too short-sighted or stupid to see it?

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

Hi,

Shamlawar you Irani ghulam.

Why the **** would Pakistan instruct to kill Mansoor in it's own territory, If he was literally coming from Iran border? Do you have any common sense, or is your brain just filled with PAKI PAKI bull**** nonsense? And history of pashtuns is stupid for agreeing with you. If Pakistan knew about this targeted killing, then ISPR would have had a statement ready immediately. They are still silent over the entire matter. Apparently the US drone was in Afghan air space and launched a rocket on the car that had just crossed from Iran.

So tell me one thing Shamlawar. Mansoor was traveling to Pakistan, Murree talks, Dubai, Iran, with open permission. Why the **** did your Nato saviors not do anything to him while he was flying international flights? They could have easily killed or captured him in Dubai. So now that he entered Pakistan in a car from Iranian border, he was killed 3 minutes in...

Mansoor was pro-Pakistani, why the **** would Pak establishment try to kill him off? The reason is that they did not. The Iranians leaked info and the Americans ran forward with Indian approval.

How stupid can one be.


The taliban hung Iranian diplomats to become allies with them in the future.. How Hilarious..?

The filthy Iranian, Indian, Afghan, and US dogs have all turned against Pakistan and the Afghan taliban. Are you too short-sighted or stupid to see it?

Pakistan allowed its airspace and even soil to be used in military actions against Taliban and Al Qaeda.

First airfield used in war against Taliban used by Americans was in Pakistan Shamsi Airfield - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nek Muhammed Wazir was killed by Americans after tip-off by Pakistani army.

Osama Bin Laden was killed in Pakistan by American special forces and similarly thousands of Pakistanis were killed in Waziristan by the Americans.

Pakistan as a state is like prostitute. It allows itself to be violated in echange for political and material gains.

[Insight]

Hi,

Shamlawar you Irani ghulam.

Why the **** would Pakistan instruct to kill Mansoor in it's own territory, If he was literally coming from Iran border? Do you have any common sense, or is your brain just filled with PAKI PAKI bull**** nonsense? And history of pashtuns is stupid for agreeing with you. If Pakistan knew about this targeted killing, then ISPR would have had a statement ready immediately. They are still silent over the entire matter. Apparently the US drone was in Afghan air space and launched a rocket on the car that had just crossed from Iran.

So tell me one thing Shamlawar. Mansoor was traveling to Pakistan, Murree talks, Dubai, Iran, with open permission. Why the **** did your Nato saviors not do anything to him while he was flying international flights? They could have easily killed or captured him in Dubai. So now that he entered Pakistan in a car from Iranian border, he was killed 3 minutes in...

Mansoor was pro-Pakistani, why the **** would Pak establishment try to kill him off? The reason is that they did not. The Iranians leaked info and the Americans ran forward with Indian approval.

How stupid can one be.


The taliban hung Iranian diplomats to become allies with them in the future.. How Hilarious..?

The filthy Iranian, Indian, Afghan, and US dogs have all turned against Pakistan and the Afghan taliban. Are you too short-sighted or stupid to see it?

It is old news that Pakistan military clears the airspace and permits US drone strikes. You think Indian drones can just fly over Pakistan? No, but US drones are allowed to since 2004.

Zardari and nearly every sitting Pakistan PM speaks the Pakistan military language. Unless you actually believe that Zardari controlled Kayani which would be illogical.


US embassy cables: Pakistan backs US drone attacks on tribal areas | World news | The Guardian

11. (C) Malik suggested we hold off alleged Predator attacks until after the Bajaur operation. The PM brushed aside Rehman,s remarks and said "I don,t care if they do it as long as they get the right people. We,ll protest in the National Assembly and then ignore it." (Note: The strike has been front page news, but the media is reporting that the targets were nests of Arab fighters.)

[marwat]

I had the same thought except that I did not think about the possibility of tipping him by anti iranian element with in Taliban. We do know he was a divisive figure and was disliked by many. Though he was quite capable and visionary.

[marwat]

However it does not answer one important question.
So why american take him out as america is not working as per wishes of pakistan or anti iranian taliban. It was not hard for american to locate him on their own and take him out but they didn't want to. Or is it that american don't want taliban trying to loose their chain and they want pakistan to have influence over them.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

He's Killed because CIA wanted so.Infact even the earlier leak of Mullah omar death when the negotiation of peace were about to conclude.

They can track Mullah Mansour in Balochistan but not fazlullah in Afghanistan,Because they don't want to do so.

[Firdousi]

There are many theories about the way Mansour got killed and why he got killed.

Some say Iran sold him out and gave him away, others claim Americans have superior intel and can kill any Taliban or AQ leader. Some others say Pakistan sold him out because he tried to befriend Iran.

Personally I'm gravitating towards the last. I believe there are many factions inside Taliban and external entities like the Pakistani government who are against closer ties between Taliban and Iran.

Within Taliban movement, many groups want to preserve a safe distance with the Iranian regime due to religious reasons. There are also supporters of Taliban in Gulf countries and in Pakistan who are all opposed to Iranians.

These groups wouldn't want the movement to become an ally of Iran in the political arena.

Pakistan and the Gulf states also oppose Iranian foreign policy. They wouldn't want to see Taliban becoming an asset of Iranian global agenda.

Pakistan also wants to control Afghan Taliban movement and have the most influence on the outcome of the ongoing conflict.

Therefore, I believe Mansour's movement in Baluchistan near Iranian border was tipped off either by ISI or anti Iranian elements within Taliban movement.

Iran benefits from having better ties with certain sunni groups. Due to the conflict in Syria, Iran is loosing support within Sunni world. A diplomatic friendship with the Taliban would benefit Iran in Asia and the subcontinent.

Therefore, I don't think the Iranians were responsible for his death.

I disagree.

There are three possibilities:

1) Iran betrayed him in order to improve its relationship with the USA, as a gesture of good will.
2) Afghans and Americans, frustatred over the negotiation talks, decided to get rid of Mansour and his anti-peace mentality.
3) Pakistan betrayed him in order to get those fancy airplanes from USA.

Since Pakistan has become a prostitute state, I would rather be inclined to think that this last option is the true one. Check this out:

US Senate okays reimbursement fund for Pakistan
ANWAR IQBAL — UPDATED ABOUT 19 HOURS AGO

US Senate okays reimbursement fund for Pakistan - Newspaper - DAWN.COM

You see? Suddenly USA will give money to Pakistan, just few days after Mansour being killed. The prostitute Pakistani establishment has betrayed his own asset in order to get money from American kaffirs. Taliban should take note of this and realize that Pakistan is their enemy.

Once their offensive fails definitely in Afghanistan they will turn their guns toward Pakistan. Just like TTP, and offshoot of their own "good terrorist" did few years ago after the Lal Masjid massacre. Pakistan is between the rock and a hard place. Trapped in a vicious circle unable to move. If they openly attack Taliban that will be the end of their old policy and its pretty obvious NDS and RAW will help Taliban in order to make Pakistan bleed. If they don't, they will gradually become more isolated. Bad times ahead for this country. I am so happy.

[Friends of Baloch]

The Iran visa story sounds like a fabrication. If you look at the wreckage of the car Mansour was travelling in it was hit very badly. But the Pakilanders want people to believe that a passport was found at the scene that by some miracle had survived without a single burn. The passport is said to have been the only thing to have survived actually without a scratch, lol.

Either the NDS and CIA tracked him, or he was sold out by other Taliban or by his Paki handlers for a bag full of daal stained rupees.

But i tend to agree that he was sold out by the Pakis. Pakis must think that Akhundzada will be more pliable since he is only a jurist and not a man with a military mind or experience of combat operations. The media is already speculating that Akhundzada will be little more than a figure head and that the actual running of the Taliban operations will be carried out by Sirajuddin Haqqani, who in turn is completely in league with Pakiland and its Afghan misadventure, unlike Mansour who thought he was actually running something that isnt a proxy of Rawalpindi.

Ps, on a side note "Rawalpindi" is the like most Hindu sounding name, ever. And these smelly pakis pretend that they are not Indians converted from Hindu low castes, lol..

[Khostai]

Does it even matter who is the leader of talib bibis? Its the same never ending story of people with dark ages mentality who want totalitarian theocratic state where people will starve from hunger and deseases.
Mullah Omar was dead for 2 years and no change or what so ever in taliban movement, Mansoor came to power also no visible change. He was killed becuase USA just wated to show the world that they still are on taliban ass and want them to accept peace....