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    Death Showcases Afghan Taliban Leader’s Iran Connection


    Death Showcases Afghan Taliban Leader’s Iran Connection


    May 22, 2016

    Abubakar Siddique


    The likely killing of Taliban leader Mullah Akhtar Mohammad Mansur in a U.S. drone strike in southwestern Pakistan has attracted attention to Islamabad and its longstanding covert alliance with the Afghan Taliban.

    But less attention is being paid to budding relations between the hard-line Sunni insurgent movement and Iran’s clerical establishment.
    A well-placed Afghan source has confirmed to RFE/RL’s Gandhara website that Mansur was targeted on the afternoon of May 21 after returning from Iran earlier that day.
    Mansur and his driver were killed on the outskirts of Ahmad Wal town on the main highway connecting Quetta, the capital of Pakistan’s southwestern Balochistan Province, to Iran. Ahmad Wal is nearly 500 kilometers or a five-hour drive from the Taftan border crossing between Pakistan and Iran.
    According to Pakistani media reports, one of the passengers killed in the attack bore a Pakistani passport with the name Wali Muhammad. The Afghan source said Muhammad was a pseudonym of Mansur’s. Indeed, the photo on the passport closely resembles Mansur.
    Pakistani officials, meanwhile, are investigating the passport and identity of the driver and passenger killed in the drone strike.

    A Pakistani identity card the Afghan Taliban leader was allegedly carrying.
    Pakistan’s ARY News TV reported that the driver was identified as Muhammad Azam, who used to ferry passengers from Taftan to Quetta in his taxi. The report said Azam’s partially burned remains had been handed over to his relatives on May 22.
    Pakistani media reports suggested Pakistani immigration stamps on Muhammad’s passport showed he went into Iran in in late March and returned on May 21.
    Islamabad, however, denounced the U.S. drone strike believed to have killed Mansur. A Pakistani foreign office statement on May 22 said the drone strike was a violation of its sovereignty.
    “A person named Wali Muhammad, son of Shah Muhammad, carrying a Pakistani passport and I.D. card, entered Pakistan from [Iran through the] Taftan border,” the statement noted. “His passport bore a valid Iranian visa.”
    The Afghan source said deepening covert cooperation between Tehran and the Afghan Taliban under Mansur seemed to be driven by threats posed by the emergence of the Islamic State (IS) in Afghanistan since early 2015.
    “The emergence of IS is the main reason [for their cooperation],” he said. “But Iran has stakes in Afghanistan, and if it can gain some influence over the Taliban, why wouldn’t it?”
    The source said Tehran is keen on keeping the Taliban from becoming a close ally of its regional archrival, Saudi Arabia. “Iran’s relations with the Taliban can fit every possible game and strategy for Tehran,” he said.
    In recent months, Afghan sources claimed that after capturing large swaths of rural territories in Afghanistan after the end of NATO’s combat mission in 2014, the Taliban have reached out to Iran and Russia to break free from their reliance on Pakistani financing and sanctuaries.
    Indeed, the Taliban have systematically eliminated IS cells in Afghan provinces bordering Iran or in close proximity with the Iranian border.

    The Iranian and Pakistani immigration stamps on the Pakistani passport the Afghan Taliban leader was allegedly carrying.
    The Taliban’s relations with Islamabad, however, have meanwhile deteriorated. Many were surprised when Sartaj Aziz, a foreign affairs adviser to the Pakistani prime minister, stated in March that Islamabad has some “influence over them [the Taliban] because their leadership is in Pakistan.”
    Afghan officials then asserted that after denying the Taliban’s presence in its territory, Pakistan was keen on asserting its control over the Afghan insurgents because the Taliban were increasingly slipping away from Islamabad’s control.
    Several informed sources suggested Mansur’s targeting inside Pakistan was made possible by a tip from the country’s security services, who have long nurtured Taliban and other extremists to promote Pakistani interests in Afghanistan and other neighboring countries.
    The Afghan source said Pakistan seems to have helped Washington in targeting Mansur in Balochistan, where an Afghan Taliban safe haven has been immune from U.S. drone strikes that have killed hundreds of Taliban and Al-Qaeda leaders in the neighboring Federally Administered Tribal Areas.
    “Pakistani intelligence seems to have delivered this to the U.S. in exchange for easing up on F-16s [fighter aircrafts], other aid, and relieving the overall pressure from Washington,” the source said.
    Earlier this month, U.S. senators dubbed Pakistan a “frenemy” and barred U.S. financing for a $700 million deal with Lockheed Martin that would see eight F-16 fighter jets and other equipment sold to Pakistan.
    Last week, the House of Representatives passed a defense budget that tied $450 million in aid to Islamabad to a crackdown on the Taliban’s deadly military wing, the Haqqani network.
    Last edited by Insight; 05-23-2016, 04:21 PM.
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    Pakistani media reports suggested Pakistani immigration stamps on Muhammad’s passport showed he went into Iran in in late March and returned on May 21.
    "The past is not my concern. The future is no longer my concern either. One minute. One minute of everything at once. And anything before is nothing. Everything after nothing. Nothing in comparison to that one minute."

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    • #3
      Assuming the death of Mullah Mansour is confirmed, then Im assuming that Pakistan gave the intelligence and permitted the drone strike.

      Under Mansour, the Taliban insurgency has increased it's use of safe havens in Iran (specifically Zahedan and Mashad). These safe havens in Iran are virtually off limit to US drone strikes. This explains why US and Pakistan waited for Mansour to cross into Pakistani territory. Furthermore,


      The fact that Mansour was in Iran for more than a month indicates his growing distrust of Pakistan, and growing closeness with Iran(specifically the IRGC). Pakistan military must have realized this much.

      It can be concluded then that the Taliban insurgency leadership are relocating to Iran. I see Pakistani influence over the Taliban dwindling especially after this drone strike.
      Last edited by Insight; 05-23-2016, 04:42 PM.
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      • #4
        Iran sold Mullah mansour to CIA in return to make India and Afghanistan happy before signing the Chabahar pact
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        • #5
          ^That is doubtful. US (and Europe) have been chasing an alliance with Iran without much success.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Insight View Post
            Assuming the death of Mullah Mansour is confirmed, then Im assuming that Pakistan gave the intelligence and permitted the drone strike.

            Under Mansour, the Taliban insurgency has increased it's use of safe havens in Iran (specifically Zahedan and Mashad). These safe havens in Iran are virtually off limit to US drone strikes. This explains why US and Pakistan waited for Mansour to cross into Pakistani territory. Furthermore,


            The fact that Mansour was in Iran for more than a month indicates his growing distrust of Pakistan, and growing closeness with Iran(specifically the IRGC). Pakistan military must have realized this much.

            It can be concluded then that the Taliban insurgency leadership are relocating to Iran. I see Pakistani influence over the Taliban dwindling especially after this drone strike.
            I don't think Iran is stupid enough to do that considering the sanctions just got lifted.

            Iran's main concern is selling its oil, gas etc and improving its economy. The Iranians helped the Americans/NATO get rid of the Taliban back in 2001by being part of the coalition. Most foreign troops have left Afghanistan so it wouldn't make sense for Iran to back Taliban now.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Shapur View Post
              I don't think Iran is stupid enough to do that considering the sanctions just got lifted.

              Iran's main concern is selling its oil, gas etc and improving its economy. The Iranians helped the Americans/NATO get rid of the Taliban back in 2001by being part of the coalition. Most foreign troops have left Afghanistan so it wouldn't make sense for Iran to back Taliban now.
              Iran's growing ties with the Taliban insurgency is a fact. It has been known since 2010 Wikileaks. What is not yet determined is how far does the Afghan insurgency use Iran as a sanctuary compared with Pakistan, and if that is changing.

              This was reported last year.

              Iran Backs Taliban With Cash and Arms - WSJ

              Why did the Taliban go to Tehran? | World news | The Guardian

              I don't think Iran fears the US anymore, especially after the Iran deal which all analysts see as US yielding to Iran, and since Iran detained US troops a few months ago, taking pictures of the capture (violation of Geneva convention), and US had no response.
              "The past is not my concern. The future is no longer my concern either. One minute. One minute of everything at once. And anything before is nothing. Everything after nothing. Nothing in comparison to that one minute."

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              • #8
                Dont underestimate the NDS. They were very close to tracking Bin Laden inside Pakiland when Saleh was its head and many of the leads that eventually led to Bin Laden's location were found by the NDS and passed onto the Americans.

                Presumably the NDS has a credible network of informants and spies in Balochistan, FATA and Pakhtunkhwa and are the ones who tracked down Mansour and called on the CIA to strike him down.
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                • #9
                  Seems Pakistan is eager to drag Iran into this blame-game. I find it ok. This will worsen Iranian-Pakistani relationship even more. Few months ago Pakistani military openly accused Iran of harboring RAW agents without proving any evidence. Well guys, this is the best way to get isolated. It amazes me how fool the Pakistani establishment is. You guys used to be masters at this game but now you have gone completely paranoid, incompetent and useless. Keep it up.
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                  • #10
                    BTW even if this is true, and Mansoor visited Iran, its pretty obvious the reason: Iran wants to contain ISIS. So they are even ready to "collaborate" to some degree with Taliban in order to keep ISIS at bay. I don't think Iran wants the Afghan government to collapse nor a Taliban take over. The relationship between Afghanistan and Iran has improved a lot in the past 15 years. Iran will use Taliban as a pawn for some minor an petty issues such as Salma Dam in Herat and thats it.
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                    I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
                      BTW even if this is true, and Mansoor visited Iran, its pretty obvious the reason: Iran wants to contain ISIS. So they are even ready to "collaborate" to some degree with Taliban in order to keep ISIS at bay. I don't think Iran wants the Afghan government to collapse nor a Taliban take over. The relationship between Afghanistan and Iran has improved a lot in the past 15 years. Iran will use Taliban as a pawn for some minor an petty issues such as Salma Dam in Herat and thats it.
                      Obviously not, apart from supporting Farsi-speakers and fellow Shias (Hazaras) it was the Taliban who killed Iranian officials in Mazar Sharif in 1998 almost causing war between Shia Iran and Taliban-run Afghanistan with as possibly 200,000 Iranian soldiers mobilized on the Afghan border back then.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
                        Seems Pakistan is eager to drag Iran into this blame-game. I find it ok. This will worsen Iranian-Pakistani relationship even more. Few months ago Pakistani military openly accused Iran of harboring RAW agents without proving any evidence. Well guys, this is the best way to get isolated. It amazes me how fool the Pakistani establishment is. You guys used to be masters at this game but now you have gone completely paranoid, incompetent and useless. Keep it up.
                        The Iran visa allegation sounds like a typical paki fabrication. The pakis' hand picked Taliban 'Emir' Mullah Mansour was tracked down in Pakiland and executed there. That is the plain fact of the matter.

                        You are right that typical two faced paki diversion tactics to shift blame to Iran will only worsen Tehran's already disdainful view of Pakiland and will not help the paki case one bit.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Bengal_Tiger View Post
                          Obviously not, apart from supporting Farsi-speakers and fellow Shias (Hazaras) it was the Taliban who killed Iranian officials in Mazar Sharif in 1998 almost causing war between Shia Iran and Taliban-run Afghanistan with as possibly 200,000 Iranian soldiers mobilized on the Afghan border back then.
                          That was like two decades ago, buddy. Now the context is different. Iran would gladly give some support just in order to keep at bay even more hardcore militants such as ISIS no matter what happened many years ago. USA brought down an Iranian civilian airplane over Khalij 30 years ago yet that was no impediment to reach an agreement with them over the nuclear issue.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Friends of Baloch View Post
                            The Iran visa allegation sounds like a typical paki fabrication. The pakis' hand picked Taliban 'Emir' Mullah Mansour was tracked down in Pakiland and executed there. That is the plain fact of the matter.

                            You are right that typical two faced paki diversion tactics to shift blame to Iran will only worsen Tehran's already disdainful view of Pakiland and will not help the paki case one bit.
                            Indeed the Pakistani double standard game has been exposed. Nobody trusts a pathological liar country. Pakistanis really need to change its policy and improve relationship with their neighbors. Otherwise they are done.
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                            • #15
                              Iran is the most neglected neighbor for Pakistan because iran has nothing to offer to Pakistan.

                              Anyway some interesting comment from our iranian side.

                              Pakistan’s shadow on the relationship was articulated by at least three Iranian experts in Tehran. However, while all agreed that Pakistan’s role was important, they also emphasised that Iran would try to balance ties with Delhi and Islamabad. Zeeba Farzinnia, Director of East Asia studies group at the Institute for Political and International Studies (an Iranian Foreign ministry-backed think tank), said,

                              “Pakistan has strong ties with Arab countries and very good, all-weather friendship with China. This poses difficulties for both Iran and India. Iran tries to balance the relations between India and Pakistan. If you change the balance, then there are difficulties.

                              ” She said, “We do not want to build relations with India and destroy relationship with Pakistan. It is very hard, but we try.” -

                              See more at: Page not found | The Indian Express
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