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  • Khorasan, Pashtunistan, Balochistan, splitting of Afghanistan and Pakistan

    Do you think it would be better if Afghanistan splitted into two countries, one Farsi speaking and the other Pashtun?

    Pashtuns can then form Pashtunistan by merging with Pakistani half. Baloch people can form Balochistan. Pakistani Punjabs and Sindhis can decice wether they want to merge with India and form Greater India or form Punjabistan and/or Sindhustan.

    Hazara people can decide wether to form Hazaristan or be part of Khorasan. I don't know wether Farsi speakers will accept them or Hazaras will accept to be with Farsi speakers.

    For Farsi speakers, (Greater) Khorasan could be a solution:



    What do you think?

    Pakistan I must say is a complete failed state, since it has only good intentions for the Punjabis and careless about the others. Baloch and Pashuns should break away from Pakistan and form their own nations.

  • #2
    No there are different ethnicity in all regions of Afghanistan. A split would not solve anything. If anything they would just cause more for example Pakistan invading the "Pashtunistan" and Iran invading the "Khorasan".

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    • #3
      Like iv said a million times Khorasan was not only populated by Tajiks lol. The real greater Khorasan extended from Mashad to Herat. However at times the whole of modern day Afghanistan (Ghor, Pakhtunkhwa, Zabulistan, Balkh, Badakhshan, Seistan) was called Khorasan aswell.
      Last edited by Afghanfootball; 05-07-2016, 08:24 PM.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Forreigner View Post
        Do you think it would be better if Afghanistan splitted into two countries, one Farsi speaking and the other Pashtun?

        Pashtuns can then form Pashtunistan by merging with Pakistani half. Baloch people can form Balochistan. Pakistani Punjabs and Sindhis can decice wether they want to merge with India and form Greater India or form Punjabistan and/or Sindhustan.

        Hazara people can decide wether to form Hazaristan or be part of Khorasan. I don't know wether Farsi speakers will accept them or Hazaras will accept to be with Farsi speakers.

        For Farsi speakers, (Greater) Khorasan could be a solution:



        What do you think?

        Pakistan I must say is a complete failed state, since it has only good intentions for the Punjabis and careless about the others. Baloch and Pashuns should break away from Pakistan and form their own nations.
        The whole ME and CA should be split along ethnic and sectarian lines. Not only Afghanistan and Pakistan. Most of our current borders were drawn by Brits. Why should we accept British boundaries that were imposed on our forefathers?

        Afghansitan is doomed anyway. Taliban are a reality in Pashtun rural areas. Not so much in urban ones. We can not defeat them nor they can defeat us. Afghanistan will face a de facto partition. Honestly I will be more than happy. Pashtuns can rule their country according their tribalism.
        "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
        I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

        -Ferdowsi.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Afghanfootball View Post
          Like iv said a million times Khorasan was not only populated by Tajiks lol. The real greater Khorasan extended from Mashad to Herat. However at times the whole of modern day Afghanistan (Ghor, Roh, Zabulistan, Balkh, Badakhshan, Seistan) was called Khorasan aswell.
          Khorasan was not a country but a cultural reality inhabited by several ethnic groups. Even a Pashtun king ruled over Khorasan: Ahmad Shah Durrani. As far as I know he never himself "King of Afghanistan" but "King of Khorasan and Kabulistan".

          Anyway "Khorasan Borzorg" was Herat, Mashad, Nyshabur, Kabul, Balkh, Samarqand, Bukhara, Termez, Merw and Panjkent. During Safavids Khorasan was mainly limited to Herat, Neyshabur and Mashad.
          "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
          I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

          -Ferdowsi.

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          • #6
            There are so many Turk/Hazara, Pamiri, and Pashtun majority regions included in that map.
            Last edited by Sarbani; 05-07-2016, 07:59 PM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
              The whole ME and CA should be split along ethnic and sectarian lines. Not only Afghanistan and Pakistan. Most of our current borders were drawn by Brits. Why should we accept British boundaries that were imposed on our forefathers?

              Afghansitan is doomed anyway. Taliban are a reality in Pashtun rural areas. Not so much in urban ones. We can not defeat them nor they can defeat us. Afghanistan will face a de facto partition. Honestly I will be more than happy. Pashtuns can rule their country according their tribalism.
              Persians have enough land as it is, they don't need a second country in the heart of Asia. Besides, the parts of "Khorasan" that speak Persian weren't even originally Persian.

              Parties demanding for Afghanistan's provinces to be divided along ethnic lines are non-existent, let alone ones demanding for independence.

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              • #8
                Only some Ultra-nationalist Tajik youngsters residing in Western countries (I should call them dreamers) come up with this map. Lets say you Tajiks are able to "liberate" yourself from Pashtuns. How will you snatch Two Khorasanian provinces from Iran, and, half of their country from Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan?.

                Lets assume that only Uzbek, Tajik and Hazara of Afghanistan bands together and separates themselves from Pashtuns. Whats the guarantee that Tajiks, Uzbeks and Hazaras wont turn against each other in the absence of common enemy Pashtun?.....and is Pashtun even a common enemy to all these three?. Northern alliance was formed against Taliban group, not against all Pashtuns.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by History of Pashtuns View Post
                  Only some Ultra-nationalist Tajik youngsters residing in Western countries (I should call them dreamers) come up with this map. Lets say you Tajiks are able to "liberate" yourself from Pashtuns. How will you snatch Two Khorasanian provinces from Iran, and, half of their country from Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan?.

                  Lets assume that only Uzbek, Tajik and Hazara of Afghanistan bands together and separates themselves from Pashtuns. Whats the guarantee that Tajiks, Uzbeks and Hazaras wont turn against each other in the absence of common enemy Pashtun?.....and is Pashtun even a common enemy to all these three?. Northern alliance was formed against Taliban group, not against all Pashtuns.
                  Considering some of these trolls are actually adults. It amazes me how they never take these factors into consideration.

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                  • #10
                    "If a lion comes and takes your share, go get it back from the mouth of the lion"

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by History of Pashtuns View Post
                      Only some Ultra-nationalist Tajik youngsters residing in Western countries (I should call them dreamers) come up with this map. Lets say you Tajiks are able to "liberate" yourself from Pashtuns. How will you snatch Two Khorasanian provinces from Iran, and, half of their country from Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan?.

                      Lets assume that only Uzbek, Tajik and Hazara of Afghanistan bands together and separates themselves from Pashtuns. Whats the guarantee that Tajiks, Uzbeks and Hazaras wont turn against each other in the absence of common enemy Pashtun?.....and is Pashtun even a common enemy to all these three?. Northern alliance was formed against Taliban group, not against all Pashtuns.
                      Paki, you know nothing about us. Stop embarrassing yourself lol

                      Nobody wants to "snatch" anything from Iran, nor Tajikistan, nor Uzbekistan. We are not Pashtun fascist warmongers. First off, Pashtun themselves will split up their country. Not us, Tajiks. Vast majority of non Pashtuns even many Pashtuns would rather split up Afghanistan than sharing it with the Taliban. Once Taliban take over southern and eastern provinces (this will happen or later) Afghanistan will be a de facto partitioned country. And all thanks to you, Pashtuns lol
                      "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
                      I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

                      -Ferdowsi.

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                      • #12
                        and taliban will soon knock the door of khorasan once they have pashtun areas. if religion can't keep you united, language will not

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                        • #13
                          Dreaming about changing borders is not going to fix anything. Not to speak of the fact that it is extremely unrealistic.

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