How an Aryan King speaks and how a Porkistani daalkhoor Australoid Indian slave speak

[Samandri]

Wrora, this even happened to Pashtuns too from time to time. Maybe not continuously but quite often.

The Yusufzi even cucked Bibi Mubaraka to Babur so he wouldn't annihilate them.

Actually it was Babur who proposed for Mubaraka. Bibi Mubaraka Yousafzai | History of Pashtuns د پښتنو تاريخ

The rape of Tajik people by Mongols in 13th century can not be compared with a respectable marriage between Babur and Bibi Mubaraka. Moreover passive Tajiks of Tajikistan and Badakhshan remained peaceful subjugates of their Uzbek rulers, while Yousafzais remained independent through out Mughal reign and repulsed the Mughal attempts of conquering Yousafzai country.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

So what? Obviously Central Asians suffered a heavy assimilation attempt by Russians. Now they are trying to get rid of it. There is also as strong revival of Persian values in Afghanistan.

I wasn't talking about Islamism. You guys want to see the hand of Arabs behind everything. I meant Islamic values. People in CA are now much more aware of their traditional Islamic values.

I'm only saying that the Russians had a dramatc impact in Tajikistan. I'm not trying to suggest Tajiks lacked an Islamic heritage.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Actually it was Babur who proposed for Mubaraka. Bibi Mubaraka Yousafzai | History of Pashtuns د پښتنو تاريخ

The rape of Tajik people by Mongols in 13th century can not be compared with a respectable marriage between Babur and Bibi Mubaraka. Moreover passive Tajiks of Tajikistan and Badakhshan remained peaceful subjugates of their Uzbek rulers, while Yousafzais remained independent through out Mughal reign and repulsed the Mughal attempts of conquering Yousafzai country.

Brother the Yusufzi cucked her so Babur would spare them. Sorry dude Pashtun history has quite a few shameful bits too. I'm only saying this so that we show some humility.

A respectable marriage doesn't happen under threats of extermination.

Furthermore Babur took it upon himself to write a porno sex story about how he ravaged Bibi Mubaraka. It wouldn't surprise me If he did that specifically to gloat over how he spoiled the namous of the Pashtuns.

[Samandri]

So what? Obviously Central Asians suffered a heavy assimilation attempt by Russians. Now they are trying to get rid of it. There is also as strong revival of Persian values in Afghanistan.

I wasn't talking about Islamism. You guys want to see the hand of Arabs behind everything. I meant Islamic values. People in CA are now much more aware of their traditional Islamic values.

What Islamic values? they have pig forms in Tajikistan and have recently put ban on Arabic names. Tajiks there dont even circumcises their penises, and they dont know about taharat and najasat....so they are generally unclean, dirty

[Samandri]

Furthermore Babur took it upon himself to write a porno sex story about how he ravaged Bibi Mubaraka. It wouldn't surprise me If he did that specifically to gloat over how he spiked the namous of the Pashtuns.

Nah, no such thing happened, neither in Baburnama nor any other document. You must have read this non-sense from Tajikam.com or similar site.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Nah, no such thing happened, neither in Baburnama nor any other document. You must have read this non-sense from Tajikam.com or similar site.

Nope it's in baburnama

FOUND IT!

A second time he said, "Afghaniya, be seated." Again she prostrated herself before him and came a little nearer, but still stood. Then the Padshah pulled the veil from her face and beheld incomparable beauty. He was entranced, he said again, " O, Afghaniya, sit down." Then she bowed herself again, and said, " I have a petition to make. If an order be given, I will make it." The Padshah said kindly, " Speak." Whereupon she with both hands took up her dress and said, "Think that the whole Yusuf-zal tribe is enfolded in my skirt, and pardon their offences for my sake." Said the Padshah, " I forgive the Yusuf-zal all their offences in thy presence, and cast them all into thy skirt. Hereafter I shall have no ill-feeling to the Yusuf-zal." Again she bowed before him-; the Padshah took her hand and led her to the divan.

When the Afternoon Prayer time came and the Padshah rose from the divan to go to prayers, Blbl Mubaraka jumped up and fetched him his shoes.1 He put them on and said very pleasantly, " I am extremely pleased with you and your tribe and I have pardoned them all for your sake." Then he said with a smile, " We know it was Malik Ahmad taught you all these ways." He then went to prayers and the Blbl remained to say hers in the tent.
After some days the camp moved from Dlarun and proceeded by Bajaur and Tank! to Kabul.2

Blbl Mubaraka, the Blessed Lady, is often mentioned by Gul-badan ; she had no children ; and lived an honoured life, as her chronicler says, until the beginning of Akbar's reign, when she died. Her brother Mir Jamal rose to honour under Babur, Humayun and Akbar.

This is from page 971

[jaal]

Agreed, I find many Tajik women to be beautiful. But beariful women are every Where even among South Asians. Beauty isn't constrained to one part of the world

Hindus women are ugliest, Tajiks are not only respectfull muslims but also good looking. I will trade disgusting smelly afghan refugees with Tajiks any day.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Hindus women are ugliest, Tajiks are not only respectfull muslims but also good looking. I will trade disgusting smelly afghan refugees with Tajiks any day.

What does their religion have to do attractiveness? You're quite a juvenile.

[Samandri]

Nope it's in baburnama

FOUND IT!




This is from page 971

Is this your notion of rape and ravaging?. You do know how "khwast"/request/begging" is done among us?, you lift your kameez with both hands (slightly raised not undressing) and do "khwast"....thats what she was doing. I see no disrespect of Babur towards Mubaraka. You have bolded the part about divan, that Babur went there with her.........whats unusual about it? where is the ravaging and rape?.....they are offering prayers in their tents.

Their marriage must have been consummated, they were husband and wife after all.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Is this your notion of rape and ravaging?. You do know how "khwast"/request/begging" is done among us?, you lift your kameez with both hands (slightly raised not undressing) and do "khwast"....thats what she was doing. I see no disrespect of Babur towards Mubaraka. You have bolded the part about divan, that Babur went there with her.........whats unusual about it? where is the ravaging and rape?.....they are offering prayers in their tents.

Their marriage must have been consummated, they were husband and wife after all.

They didn't even have Nikkah at this point ...what do you think?

What man writes about boning his wife in his memoirs? That's not HONORABLE, That's Beghairat. Any Afghan would find that shameful.

[Samandri]

They didn't even have Nikkah at this point ...what do you think?

What man writes about boning his wife in his memoirs? That's not HONORABLE, That's Beghairat. Any Afghan would find that shameful.

Who told you that? the Rukhsati was after Nikah. The wedding took place on 8th Muharram 914 H , then she arrived in Babur camp with her servants from her household

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Who told you that? the Rukhsati was after Nikah. The wedding took place on 8th Muharram 914 H , then she arrived in Babur camp with her servants from her household

Can you confirm the date of her arrival to his "Diwan"

and how do you explain her begging for The Yusufzi to be pardoned? Clearly they cucked her so Babur would spare them.

Sorry dude .....this is worse than being raped, this is basically caving in. Everyone knows a Ghairatmand Pashtana would rather die than do that.

[Samandri]

What man writes about boning his wife in his memoirs? That's not HONORABLE, That's Beghairat. Any Afghan would find that shameful.

He doesnt mention any sex story of his wife in his memoirs..........Beside what you are deeming shameful, was not in 16th century Pashtun society. For example Afghan women were not weraing burqa in those times, thats why Babur was able to see Bibi Mubaraka when he disguised himself as a begger.

[Firdousi]

What Islamic values? they have pig forms in Tajikistan and have recently put ban on Arabic names. Tajiks there dont even circumcises their penises, and they dont know about taharat and najasat....so they are generally unclean, dirty

How do you know that, you naughty boy?

Your obsession with penises, manhood and legs is quite funny lol

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

He doesnt mention any sex story of his wife in his memoirs..........Beside what you are deeming shameful, was not in 16th century Pashtun society. For example Afghan women were not weraing burqa in those times, thats why Babur was able to see Bibi Mubaraka when he disguised himself as a begger.

If you read in the Verse I quoted he pulled off her veil.

Writing about taking a woman to your diwan, is not respectful. And there's no clear indication the nikkah happened at this point.