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  • #91
    Originally posted by Loy Afghanistan View Post
    Real Pashtuns has 0 indian blood line. But hindus have much of Pashtun blood, because it was our ancestors that gave punjabi Dravidians the cast system to follow what they are WORTH on this world.
    True. Some people in Afghanistan instead of Indian genes have Mongoloid genes (like a certain bacha baz who prowls the forums, aided by a Yemeni). However, the caste system was just a desperate attempt for some people to feel superior. Poonjabis have this idea that the more lighter-skinned you are, the more "superior" you are. This is why 99% of Poonjabis won't accept that they are brown. This probably has to do with centuries of them being ruled by lighter-skinned foreigners, like Persians, Afghans, Arabs and Turks.
    "If a lion comes and takes your share, go get it back from the mouth of the lion"

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    • #92
      ^ there is some Indian admixture in afghans, but that is normal, since afghanistan has always been a historical neighbor of India. Also that Indian admixture is probably very old, probably more 10000 years old, when only one type of population existed in India, the (ASI)

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Afghanfootball
        Maybe Afghanistan was inhabited by the ASI population aswell before the Aryan migration?
        No it was inhabited by Near Eastern BMAC and IVC farmers. They were mainly Iranian neolithic genetically with ASI as well. "Aryanz" borrowed a lot of beliefs and customs from these peoples.

        Bactria-Margiana Archaeological Complex - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Loy Afghanistan View Post
          Real Pashtuns has 0 indian blood line. But hindus have much of Pashtun blood, because it was our ancestors that gave punjabi Dravidians the cast system to follow what they are WORTH on this world.
          Yeah bro you're genetically Irish.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Loy Afghanistan View Post
            Real Pashtuns has 0 indian blood line. But hindus have much of Pashtun blood, because it was our ancestors that gave punjabi Dravidians the cast system to follow what they are WORTH on this world.
            Your claims contradict scientific evidence that human populations intermixing has been virtually universal and began thousands of years ago.

            The ONLY Possible way for you to have "pure blood" of anything is if your family has been Inbreeding between brothers and sisters for generations, Which honestly would explain a lot in your case.
            Last edited by Iblis_Efreetzai; 08-05-2016, 05:31 AM.

            Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


            Originally posted by ذو الفقار
            don’t try to be smart.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Karachi View Post
              ^ there is some Indian admixture in afghans, but that is normal, since afghanistan has always been a historical neighbor of India. Also that Indian admixture is probably very old, probably more 10000 years old, when only one type of population existed in India, the (ASI)
              Any evidence of your claim? 10000 years is long time ago.

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              • #97
                Pashtun are more handsome, most stubborn, most hospitable, more traditional and physically superlative.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by torkham View Post
                  Pashtun are more handsome, most stubborn, most hospitable, more traditional and physically superlative.
                  Pashtuns are handsome and hospitable because you say so. Hahaha


                  A real man never praises himself. I guess the word humility does not exist in Pashto?

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Rooh View Post
                    Pashtuns are handsome and hospitable because you say so. Hahaha


                    A real man never praises himself. I guess the word humility does not exist in Pashto?

                    Oh sha'ap!!! I am praising the people. Don't be so serious this is not a court, It's alright to have fun. I haven't insulted anyone or you.

                    I've been called plenty names, insulted enough. It take's a man to suffer ignorance and smile.

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                    • Originally posted by torkham View Post
                      Oh sha'ap!!! I am praising the people. Don't be so serious this is not a court, It's alright to have fun. I haven't insulted anyone or you.

                      I've been called plenty names, insulted enough. It take's a man to suffer ignorance and smile.
                      A real Pashtun is those you say grana. <3
                      To Paradise, with Pakhto, I will go.

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                      • Tajiks and Pashtuns don't tend to look exactly alike, but many Pashtuns could pass for Tajik and many Tajiks could pass for Pashtun. As for looks, I don't know if I'd say Pashtuns are "more handsome" or "more stubborn". These are individual traits.

                        Mind you we have many handsome and attractive Pashtuns, I have found similarly handsome and attractive Tajiks ....NO HOMO. Likewise we have Pashtuns like Pacha Khan Zadran to whom I say "NO COMMENT" and then you have Marshall Fahim, ...again NO COMMENT>

                        It all events out in the end.

                        Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                        Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                        don’t try to be smart.

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                        • Originally posted by Karachi View Post
                          ^ there is some Indian admixture in afghans, but that is normal, since afghanistan has always been a historical neighbor of India. Also that Indian admixture is probably very old, probably more 10000 years old, when only one type of population existed in India, the (ASI)
                          The Indian admixture in Afghans is not significant. It is not more than 10%. You will find Italians who can be up 2-5% ASI admixed as well, are you gonna start claiming Italians as your people as well?

                          The "relationship" between Afghans, Pakistanis, and Indians is in fact highly because of West Asian influence in North Indians. Pashtuns are closer to white people in Europe genetically than they are to Central or South Indians. With the recent disxovery of Iranian Neotholic Farmers, we were abke to see that a huge chunk of "South Indian" in pashtuns was proxied as such because Iranian Neotholic farmers weren't discovered. These farmers were close genetically to Caucasus Hunter Gatherers.

                          Here are some recent GEDmatches with the Iranian Neotholic component showing. ASE is South Indian. Afghans even have far more Western European Hunter Gatherer ancestry than they do South Indian. And the Iranian Neotholic looka very high here because there was no Caucasus Hunter Gatherer component on this calculator.


                          QUOTE=khanabadoshi;177274][CODE]
                          [TABLE="width: 671"]
                          [TR]
                          [TD]Member
                          [/TD]
                          [TD]ASE[/TD]
                          [TD]E ASIAN[/TD]
                          [TD]IRAN N[/TD]
                          [TD]NATUFIAN[/TD]
                          [TD]WHG[/TD]
                          [TD]SSA[/TD]
                          [/TR]
                          [TR]
                          [TD]Afghan; Pashtun - Kandahari[/TD]
                          [TD="align: right"]6.87%[/TD]
                          [TD="align: right"]8.30%[/TD]
                          [TD="align: right"]55.34%[/TD]
                          [TD="align: right"]17.23%[/TD]
                          [TD="align: right"]12.24%[/TD]
                          [TD="align: right"]0.01%[/TD]
                          [/TR]
                          [TR]
                          [TD]Afghan; Pashtun/Tajik - Rukha[/TD]
                          [TD="align: right"]8.75%[/TD]
                          [TD="align: right"]5.77%[/TD]
                          [TD="align: right"]54.48%[/TD]
                          [TD="align: right"]14.58%[/TD]
                          [TD="align: right"]16.41%[/TD]
                          [TD="align: right"]0.00%[/TD]
                          [/TR]
                          [TR]
                          [TD]FATA; Mohmand Pashtun[/TD]
                          [TD="align: right"]10.05%[/TD]
                          [TD="align: right"]6.69%[/TD]
                          [TD="align: right"]52.97%[/TD]
                          [TD="align: right"]13.12%[/TD]
                          [TD="align: right"]17.15%[/TD]
                          [TD="align: right"]0.01%[/TD]
                          [/TR]
                          [TR]
                          [TD]Jewish; Ashkenazi - Ross[/TD]
                          [TD="align: right"]1.77%[/TD]
                          [TD="align: right"]2.12%[/TD]
                          [TD="align: right"]28.33%[/TD]
                          [TD="align: right"]44.74%[/TD]
                          [TD="align: right"]21.66%[/TD]
                          [TD="align: right"]1.38%[/TD]
                          [/TR]
                          [TR]

                          Pashtuns and North Indians aren't even all that close, anyways. In oracles they scores distaces in the 20s from each other, which is the distance between a Spaniard and a German. Pashtuns are closer to North Caucasians genetically than to a lot of North Indians.

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                          • Also Tajiks and Pashtuns are close. Afghan Tajiks, that is. In phenotype, culture, everything. We have our differences, but they are our brothers.

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                            • Originally posted by Myanthropologies View Post
                              The Indian admixture in Afghans is not significant. It is not more than 10%. You will find Italians who can be up 2-5% ASI admixed as well, are you gonna start claiming Italians as your people as well?

                              The "relationship" between Afghans, Pakistanis, and Indians is in fact highly because of West Asian influence in North Indians. Pashtuns are closer to white people in Europe genetically than they are to Central or South Indians. With the recent disxovery of Iranian Neotholic Farmers, we were abke to see that a huge chunk of "South Indian" in pashtuns was proxied as such because Iranian Neotholic farmers weren't discovered. These farmers were close genetically to Caucasus Hunter Gatherers.

                              Here are some recent GEDmatches with the Iranian Neotholic component showing. ASE is South Indian. Afghans even have far more Western European Hunter Gatherer ancestry than they do South Indian. And the Iranian Neotholic looka very high here because there was no Caucasus Hunter Gatherer component on this calculator.

                              Pashtuns and North Indians aren't even all that close, anyways. In oracles they scores distaces in the 20s from each other, which is the distance between a Spaniard and a German. Pashtuns are closer to North Caucasians genetically than to a lot of North Indians.

                              Sounds interesting, do you have any peer reviewed analysis in journal publications on this?

                              Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                              Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                              don’t try to be smart.

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                              • Originally posted by Myanthropologies View Post
                                Also Tajiks and Pashtuns are close. Afghan Tajiks, that is. In phenotype, culture, everything. We have our differences, but they are our brothers.
                                Indeed. We are brothers. But please can you share sources about Tajiks and Pashtuns being close genetically? As far as I know both Tajiks and Pashtuns are genetically diverse people. A Tajik from Herat like myself looks a bit different than a Tajik from Kabul or from Mazar. Same thing happens among Pashtuns: Pashtuns from Helmand look a bit different than Pashtuns from Eastern provinces.

                                Thank you.
                                "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
                                I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

                                -Ferdowsi.

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