What are your thoughts on Pan-Iranism?

[Aryana]

Bla, bla, bla, bla.

You ghools need to be educated. You have been burning down schools for too long. Superiority of Persian culture must be imposed on you. No wonder those Pashtuns living in Persian areas are like one million times more educated and sophisticated than you, tribal terrorist fools. You are disgusting.

No wonder your chinky Mongol brothers already have names like Putin, drink vodka, and are slaves of Russians.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Bla, bla, bla, bla.

You ghools need to be educated. You have been burning down schools for too long. Superiority of Persian culture must be imposed on you. No wonder those Pashtuns living in Persian areas are like one million times more educated and sophisticated than you, tribal terrorist fools. You are disgusting.

I get that you're just reacting to a lot of obnoxious remarks. but if you've ever been to Afghanistan and seen both Pashtun and Tajik rural areas. They're almost exactly the same.

Not sure where you see sophisticated. Urban centers are always more sophisticated than rural areas, they have to be because of infrastructure. But if you compare Kandahar Shar to Herat, they're about the same, except Herat has a lot of Iranian AID so it might be built up more now.


Nurzais of Farah, speak predominantly Farsi and yet are still not that much different than their cousins in Helmand or Kandahar.

You're making a lot of lazy statements lately.

[Firdousi]

I get that you're just reacting to a lot of obnoxious remarks. but if you've ever been to Afghanistan and seen both Pashtun and Tajik rural areas. They're almost exactly the same.

Not sure where you see sophisticated. Urban centers are always more sophisticated than rural areas, they have to be because of infrastructure. But if you compare Kandahar Shar to Herat, they're about the same, except Herat has a lot of Iranian AID so it might be built up more now.


Nurzais of Farah, speak predominantly Farsi and yet are still not that much different than their cousins in Helmand or Kandahar.

You're making a lot of lazy statements lately.

I was born in Afghanistan, spent most of my childhood in there and use to visite it at least twice a year. I am sorry for my bad words but there are too many people here talking BS on my people. I have always tried to be nice and kind but there is a limit. Tribal Pashtuns only understand one language: violence and war. Seems rationality is an alien term to them.

Whats wrong with Iranian aid? Pashtuns have got a lot of help from Pakistan and the Afghan government for decades and still the worst places to live in. Thats why you see plenty of Pashtuns moving into the north and west but barely any Tajik would even set a foot in southern provinces. There is nothing in there: drugs, terrorists, war and misery. People from Herat are entrepreneurs. We dislike war, violence and problems. We want to work, start business, trade and education. Those Pashtuns in SHindand or Adraskan share these values too. They are by far more peaceful than their Pashtun cousins in the tribal areas. Don't even compare, brother. I have been to Afghanistan and I know pretty well ground reality of my own country.

Pashtuns re warmongers. They are proud of their tribal nature and their "bravery". Well guys war is all about this. You brought upon yourselves your current state of misery. You won't find people more violent in the region than Pashtuns. Prove me wrong.

[Barakzai Supply]

What relationship do Pashtuns have with Kurds or Persians or other Iranians? Most Iranians themselves speak Azeri Turkish and other non-Persian languages.

[Sarbani]

What relationship do Pashtuns have with Kurds or Persians or other Iranians? Most Iranians themselves speak Azeri Turkish and other non-Persian languages.

Most Iranians speak Iranic languages. Only a minority speaks Azeri Turkish and Azeris are basically just Turkophone Iranics.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

I was born in Afghanistan, spent most of my childhood in there and use to visite it at least twice a year. I am sorry for my bad words but there are too many people here talking BS on my people. I have always tried to be nice and kind but there is a limit. Tribal Pashtuns only understand one language: violence and war. Seems rationality is an Thats why you see plenty of Pashtuns moving into the north and west but barely any Tajik would even set a foot in southern provinces. There is nothing in there: drugs, terrorists, war and misery. People from Herat are entrepreneurs. We dislike war, violence and problems. We want to work, start business, trade and education. Those Pashtuns in SHindand or Adraskan alien term to them.

Whats wrong with Iranian aid? Pashtuns have got a lot of help from Pakistan and the Afghan government for decades and still the worst places to live in. share these values too. They are by far more peaceful than their Pashtun cousins in the tribal areas. Don't even compare, brother. I have been to Afghanistan and I know pretty well ground reality of my own country.

Pashtuns re warmongers. They are proud of their tribal nature and their "bravery". Well guys war is all about this. You brought upon yourselves your current state of misery. You won't find people more violent in the region than Pashtuns. Prove me wrong.

I'm not sure what degree Pakistan AIDS infrastructural development in Southern Afghanistan, perhaps private businesses from Pakhtunkhwah do.

There's nothing wrong with Iranian AID, I say whatever can help the local populations prosper is great. I only cited that to stress that it wasn't the alleged sophistication of Herat that lead to the development. This isn't a fault against Herat, only to stress that most of Afghanistan Pashtun or Tajik are pretty much on par.

When I went to rural Tajik parts I saw people towing farm animals, when I went to Pashtun parts I saw the same.

[Forreigner]

What relationship do Pashtuns have with Kurds or Persians or other Iranians? Most Iranians themselves speak Azeri Turkish and other non-Persian languages.

European Union has more than 54 languages. India has over 3000 languages. I don't understand why Language should be the determinator.

Of course bet would be if Afghanistan united first itself the various ethnic groups, then later included pakistani baloch and pashtun areas. problem is the British robbed Afghanistan it's costline by giving it to pakistan. with a coastline AFghanistan has more oppurtunities.

[Khostai]

What relationship do Pashtuns have with Kurds or Persians or other Iranians? Most Iranians themselves speak Azeri Turkish and other non-Persian languages.

Only 40% or so people in Iran are Persian, the rest are assimilated Azeris kurds some arabs and turkish people.

[Khostai]

What is wrong with jumping over fire? Its much better than suicide bombs, beheading people and stoning poor women to the death.

Wow I did not know you people were so barbaric that even harmless and peaceful traditions such as Nawroz or Chaharshambeh Suri drives you crazy.

We need to impose Persianism on Pashtuns as soon as possible. Pashtuni "culture" is a constant source of fascism and hatred.

No you dumb retard I did not say that it is super wrong and should be banned. I guess you are so full of **** that everything we post here you see as a personal atack. I just stated that it is only done by some people in central Asian who celebrate Nowruz everyone has their own traditions, like everyone on Europe has their own regional christmas tradition.

I guess a retard with a flat head cannot understand this.

[Khostai]

No wonder your chinky Mongol brothers already have names like Putin, drink vodka, and are slaves of Russians.

The same in Europe, tajiks who came here are now mostly all atheist, marry europeans and totaly take over european culture like they and there parents were born here. There is nothing worng with integration and adapting but those ****s forget everything about their homeland. The same like they forget everything about their original culture and language when they were ruled by Persians.
Really weak minded people.

[Khostai]

I'm not sure what degree Pakistan AIDS infrastructural development in Southern Afghanistan, perhaps private businesses from Pakhtunkhwah do.

There's nothing wrong with Iranian AID, I say whatever can help the local populations prosper is great. I only cited that to stress that it wasn't the alleged sophistication of Herat that lead to the development. This isn't a fault against Herat, only to stress that most of Afghanistan Pashtun or Tajik are pretty much on par.

When I went to rural Tajik parts I saw people towing farm animals, when I went to Pashtun parts I saw the same.

By the way Herat is developed becuase it was not bombed during Sovjet invasion and it also stayed intact during the mudjhahid civil war, unlike Kabul or Kandahar who had to start from 0. And this retard think that whole of herat is Tajik, when in fact the surrounding farm land, all the saffron farmers are Pashtun, only the city center is majority farsiban.

[Samandri]

problem is the British robbed Afghanistan it's costline by giving it to pakistan. with a coastline AFghanistan has more oppurtunities.

How so?. Durrani Empire never directly ruled coastline. Kalat, which had sway over Mekran coast, and Sindh coast ruled by Kalhorras, were tributary vassal states. Talpur rulers of the Sindh threw off the Durrani yoke in 1790s and Kalat was not paying tribute to Kabul after 1794. British conquered independent Sindh and independent Kalat in 1840s.

The Afghan claim over Balochistan is irksome for Baloch people, they claim that Balochistan was never part of Durrani empire to begin with , and that Khan of Kalat had a treaty with Abdali as equals. Baloch uprising against Pakistan is in the spirit , that they are distinct nation and want to be independent. They are saying that why they should be under rule of Afghans, Iranis and Punjabis.

[Aryana]

I was born in Afghanistan, spent most of my childhood in there and use to visite it at least twice a year. I am sorry for my bad words but there are too many people here talking BS on my people. I have always tried to be nice and kind but there is a limit. Tribal Pashtuns only understand one language: violence and war. Seems rationality is an alien term to them.

Whats wrong with Iranian aid? Pashtuns have got a lot of help from Pakistan and the Afghan government for decades and still the worst places to live in. Thats why you see plenty of Pashtuns moving into the north and west but barely any Tajik would even set a foot in southern provinces. There is nothing in there: drugs, terrorists, war and misery. People from Herat are entrepreneurs. We dislike war, violence and problems. We want to work, start business, trade and education. Those Pashtuns in SHindand or Adraskan share these values too. They are by far more peaceful than their Pashtun cousins in the tribal areas. Don't even compare, brother. I have been to Afghanistan and I know pretty well ground reality of my own country.

Pashtuns re warmongers. They are proud of their tribal nature and their "bravery". Well guys war is all about this. You brought upon yourselves your current state of misery. You won't find people more violent in the region than Pashtuns. Prove me wrong.

You're one of the most laughable "Afghans" I've ever met. You mention that no Tajik ever steps foot in the south and yet you claim to know so much about living conditions in the south. Rural Pashtuns and rural Tajiks living conditions are identical. Even in the urban areas, they're practically the same. Compare Kandahar to Herat (even though Heratis beg Iranians for aid, it is pretty much on par with all other urban centres in Afghanistan), Mazar-i-Sharif, and it is pretty much the same throughout the country. Now lets take for a second and compare Kabul with Dushanbe, it is obvious that you will pick Kabul rather than Dushanbe (but your Tajiks/"Persian" nationalism might even change your mind to Shiraz or Tehran).

Lol, Porkistan "AID". After the recent cross-border skirmishes, and countless other controversies, you really think that Porkistan gives two ****s about Afghanistan? Porkistan already has enough problems of its own, it needs the aid for itself first and then Afghanistan. To your amazement, the largest aid-supplier to Afghanistan is India, not Porkistan. Pretty much the only reason why Porkistan even houses refugees in the first place is the large aid they receive from the US and UN. Other than that, they couldn't care less.

[Aryana]

How so?. Durrani Empire never directly ruled coastline. Kalat, which had sway over Mekran coast, and Sindh coast ruled by Kalhorras, were tributary vassal states. Talpur rulers of the Sindh threw off the Durrani yoke in 1790s and Kalat was not paying tribute to Kabul after 1794. British conquered independent Sindh and independent Kalat in 1840s.

The Afghan claim over Balochistan is irksome for Baloch people, they claim that Balochistan was never part of Durrani empire to begin with , and that Khan of Kalat had a treaty with Abdali as equals. Baloch uprising against Pakistan is in the spirit , that they are distinct nation and want to be independent. They are saying that why they should be under rule of Afghans, Iranis and Punjabis.

Having a coastline will definitely impact economy of Afghanistan, but depending on how we use it. Look at poor countries (like Porkistan) with access to the sea and then look at the success of landlocked countries (e.g. Austria). This all depends on how these ocean ports will be used, since Afghans aren't very sea-faring people.

Balochistan was ruled by the Durranis, but the Durranis didn't usually use the ports all too often. The Balochis were too few in number and too ill-equipped to form an uprising (at the time) against the pashtuns. In addition to this, most of the Balochis were actually allied with the Pashtuns.

[Firdousi]

By the way Herat is developed becuase it was not bombed during Sovjet invasion and it also stayed intact during the mudjhahid civil war, unlike Kabul or Kandahar who had to start from 0. And this retard think that whole of herat is Tajik, when in fact the surrounding farm land, all the saffron farmers are Pashtun, only the city center is majority farsiban.

Actually, my uneducated tribal "priend", Herat was the first city in Afhganistan to rise against Russians:

1979 Herat uprising - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Pashtuns invited Russians to come into Afghanistan. We Tajiks kicked them out lol

And don't even dare to lecture me about the ethnic reality of Herat, dalkhor. I am not a keyboard warrior like you. I have spent decades in Herat.