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    Afghan president sets aside peace bids and vows harsher fight against Taliban
    By Tim Craig and Sayed Salahuddin
    April 25 at 10:01 AM


    KABUL — Afghan President Ashraf Ghani stepped back Monday from attempts to engage Taliban insurgents in peace talks, vowing that Afghanistan will instead “execute” enemies of the state and undertake preparations for an extended war.

    In a speech that signaled a significant shift in policies, Ghani left open the prospect for dialogue with Taliban fighters who put down their weapons. But Ghani deemed the broader Taliban organization and its Pakistan-based offshoot, the Haqqani network, “terrorists” and promised expanded attacks by the Afghan military.

    Ghani’s remarks are a setback for the Obama administration’s hopes that the 14-year Taliban insurgency could be ended through a negotiated settlement. Back-channel discussions have been held for the past three years to try to establish a framework for such talks.

    “The enemies of Afghanistan should realize, if they are captured in the battlefield fighting against the people of Afghanistan, or in terrorist activities, they will definitely be handed over to the law and will be dealt with on the basis on the law,” said Ghani. He added that his government will resume capital punishment for convicted terrorists.

    He spoke before a joint meeting of parliament nearly a week after Taliban assailants killed 64 people and injured 347 others in Kabul in one of the largest attacks in the capital in years.

    In response, Taliban spokesman Zabiullah Mujahid insisted that the militants would not back down. He called the Afghan leaders “mercenaries imposed on the nation” by their U.S. allies.

    The linchpin for peace talks has always been Pakistan, which has permitted some of the Taliban leaders to reside there.

    Pakistan has been unable — or unwilling — to apply enough pressure on the Taliban to enter negotiations. And officials now think most Taliban factions have united behind a call by the group’s supreme leader, Akhtar Mohammad Mansour, to fight at least through this year.

    In his speech, Ghani demanded that Pakistan arrest and hand over Taliban leaders who find refuge in that country’s eastern region.

    If Pakistan fails to act, Ghani said, Afghanistan would push for “responsible international entities” to “act outside of Afghanistan against the criminals whose hands are stained in the blood” of Afghans.

    Western diplomats have stressed that Pakistan is probably limited in what it can do without risking a domestic backlash that could destabilize the nuclear-armed country.

    Despite his tough talk toward the Taliban and Pakistan, much of Ghani’s speech appeared to be aimed at shoring up his own domestic political support.

    In recent months, Ghani and the country’s chief executive , Abdullah Abdullah, have struggled to agree on nominees for scores of government positions. Afghans have also criticized Ghani for failing to boost the economy or to fix soaring unemployment.

    Ghani’s leadership will be further tested by two upcoming international conferences that will decide whether foreign donors, including the United States, will continue to spend $7 billion annually to fund reconstruction and the country’s military.

    Obama also must decide later this year whether he plans to follow through on his plan to reduce U.S. troop levels from the current 9,800 to 5,500 by January.

    For months, Afghan critics have accused Ghani — a former World Bank official who spent much of his adulthood in the West — of being too disconnected from everyday hardships.

    The speech “was not based on [Ghani’s] depth of strategy and [was] just a reaction of developments, to reduce the level of people’s mistrust,” said Fawzia Koofi, an Afghan parliament member.

    But Mohammad Nateqi, a former Afghan diplomat, said Ghani has at least attempted to clarify his objectives.

    “This is a turning point and change,” Nateqi said. “His tone was focusing on defensive and war preparations.”
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    Pakistan is an unreliable and untrustworthy nation. They won't give up on their "good Taliban". Haqqani and LeT are important and strategic assets for the failed Punjabi establishment against the civilized Afghan and Indian nations. No matter how many Pakistanis die, no matter how Pakistan becomes more and more isolated,.. they won't stop. Terrorism is part of the Pakistani nature.

    Afghan government must negotiate with those Taliban willing to put down their guns. Seems negotiation with Hezb-e Islami will reach an agreement. Once this happens more moderate Taliban will join negotiation. Hardcore Islamofascists will join ISIS. Those a bit less radical than ISIS but more than moderates will stay within the Taliban. We need to weaken them. And off course all out war against Haqqani Pakis, DAESH and those Taliban unwilling to join their country. No need to say that NDS and RAW must keep backing Baluch and Pashtun warriors across the border. Make Pakistan bleed.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
      Pakistan is an unreliable and untrustworthy nation. They won't give up on their "good Taliban". Haqqani and LeT are important and strategic assets for the failed Punjabi establishment against the civilized Afghan and Indian nations. No matter how many Pakistanis die, no matter how Pakistan becomes more and more isolated,.. they won't stop. Terrorism is part of the Pakistani nature.

      Afghan government must negotiate with those Taliban willing to put down their guns. Seems negotiation with Hezb-e Islami will reach an agreement. Once this happens more moderate Taliban will join negotiation. Hardcore Islamofascists will join ISIS. Those a bit less radical than ISIS but more than moderates will stay within the Taliban. We need to weaken them. And off course all out war against Haqqani Pakis, DAESH and those Taliban unwilling to join their country. No need to say that NDS and RAW must keep backing Baluch and Pashtun warriors across the border. Make Pakistan bleed.
      Taliban fights by its own rules but ANA fights by Western imposed rules. This is like fighting with one arm tied behind their back for the ANA. They must forget Western imposed limitations and human rights brigade and simply take the fight to the pakis and kill the terrorists.
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      • #4
        Long live Pakistan, death to harami baloch terrorists! Every baloch terrorist will be killed by Pak army, there is no place left for them apart from hell. Your Hindu daddy will not save you neither America. Afghanis are slaves anyway.

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        • #5
          The Pakistan-Haqqani nexus and Kabul's misgivings
          http://www.dw.com/en/the-pakistan-ha...ngs/a-19213031

          The future of a peace initiative looks bleak after Afghanistan blamed Pakistan-based Haqqani group for an attack in Kabul. The Afghan government says it no longer expects Islamabad to bring the Taliban into peace talks.

          Date 25.04.2016

          The Afghan government has once again blamed Pakistan for supporting Islamic militants. On Saturday, April 24, President Ashraf Ghani's administration claimed that the last week's attack on the headquarters of an Afghan security agency in Kabul was conceived in Pakistan. The terrorist attack near the US embassy and government ministries on April 19 killed at least 64 people and wounded over 300.

          On Saturday, Kabul police chief Abdul Rahman Rahimi told journalists the attack was planned by the Haqqani network, a Pakistan-based militant group, which many analysts say has close ties with Pakistan's military establishment.

          The attack in Kabul infuriated the Afghan government to an extent that President Ghani had to say that his country "no longer expects Pakistan to bring the Taliban to the negotiating table." The statement is a clear indication that the Afghan authorities do not trust Islamabad in the fight against Islamic militants.

          "What we want is for Pakistan, based on the four nations' agreement, to keep its promises and launch military operations against insurgents," Ghani said, referring to a four-nation peace initiative involving Afghanistan, Pakistan, China and the United States.

          Ghaffar Khan, an Afghan security analyst and former general, said the president's speech was comprehensive. "The Afghans support their security forces and are united against terrorism. We can now distinguish between our friends and foes," Khan told DW.

          Good terrorists, bad terrorists

          Ghani said there were "no good or bad terrorists, they are just terrorists," and that "Pakistan must understand that and act against them."

          Afghanistan and western countries have long accused Pakistan of distinguishing between "good and bad Taliban" - the ones that attack Pakistani soldiers, and the ones that it allegedly use as proxies in the neighboring country.

          The Afghan government's claim that the April 19 attack was carried out by the Haqqani network was endorsed by the US State Department's press office.

          "We have consistently expressed our concerns at the highest level of the government of Pakistan about their continued tolerance for Afghan Taliban groups such as the Haqqani network operating from Pakistani soil," State Department spokeswoman Elizabeth Trudeau told a news briefing in Washington on Friday.

          "And we did again - after this week's attack, we have pressed the Pakistani government to follow up on its expressed commitment not to discriminate between terror groups regardless of their agenda or their affiliation by undertaking concrete action against the Haqqanis," she added.

          Pakistan and the Haqqanis

          Islamabad continues to deny it is backing the Haqqani network, which is largely based in its Waziristan region close to the Afghan border. Pakistan no longer believes in separating the "good" and "bad" Taliban, a senior government official said last year.

          "We have decided to ban the Haqqani network as a step in implementing the National Action Plan devised after the (Peshawar) school attack," a cabinet member told Reuters, referring to the massacre of 134 children by Taliban gunmen in December 2014.

          The decision to outlaw the militant group came just days after US Secretary of State John Kerry visited Islamabad and urged Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif's administration to fight extremist groups that pose a threat to Afghan, Indian and US interests in the region.

          Siegfried O. Wolf, a senior research at the University of Heidelberg's South Asia Institute, warns that the decision to outlaw the Haqqanis should not be mistaken for a change in Pakistan's Afghanistan policy: "At the moment one cannot identify any significant change in Pakistan's foreign and security policy. Pakistan still wants the participation of the Taliban in the Afghanistan government," he told DW.

          O. Wolf says that history is proof that such bans hardly translate into action. "Pakistan outlawed several militant groups in the past but they have reemerged after regrouping or renaming themselves and continued to operate on Pakistan's soil. Furthermore, there is no proof that the latest military operation in North Waziristan has significantly destroyed the operational structure of the Haqqani Network as claimed by the military," said O. Wolf.

          Omar Hamid, Head of Asia Pacific Country Risk at IHS, a global analytics firm, says that despite the fact that Islamabad has decided to ban the Haqqanis, and that there is a military operation against them underway, it won't be easy to eliminate the group.

          "The fundamental misunderstandings and misgivings between Islamabad and Kabul, and cooperation between the two governments on the Haqqani issue is unlikely," Hamid told DW, adding that a concerted effort was essential if the militant network was to be eliminated anytime soon.

          "In the past few years, the Haqqanis suffered the losses of key leadership figures as a result of unmanned aerial vehicle strikes and assassinations within Afghanistan and Pakistan, which have immeasurably weakened the group. The capture of two more key members by the Afghan security forces in 2014 only further weakened the group," Hamid said.

          Future of the peace talks

          Islamabad says it is willing to cooperate with the Afghan government on peace talks, and denies claims of interference in Afghanistan.

          Afghan expert Miagul Wasiq believes the success of the peace process largely depends on Pakistan's role. If Pakistan really wants to bring the Taliban into negotiations, it would be impossible for the militants to turn them down, he told DW.

          "It is clear that the Taliban leaders are based in the Pakistani cities of Peshawar, Karachi and Quetta. Pakistan hasn't forced them to shun their activities and stop using its soil," said Wasiq. "If Pakistani officials stop backing them, I am sure the militants will have no option but to join the peace talks."

          But Naufil Shahrukh, a researcher at the Islamabad-based Institute of Policy Studies (IPS), believes the suspension of talks is due to the inflexible approach on the part of Kabul and Washington.

          "The Taliban have always been willing to talk, but with a precondition of the complete withdrawal of NATO forces from Afghanistan. This, obviously, is not acceptable for the Afghan government and the US," Shahrukh told DW.

          Shahrukh also says that Pakistan has practically no influence over the Taliban leadership. "Such preconceived notions should be cleared before any meaningful initiative can take root," he said. "We must admit that the Taliban are still a potent force in Afghanistan. They control, and have public support, in several Afghan provinces."

          Dawa Khan Menapal, a deputy spokesperson for President Ghani, is hopeful that a regional consensus for peace could still be achieved. "We will continue our discussion in the four-nation group because it is an Afghan initiative. We want all parties to recognize the threats to Afghanistan and the region," Menapal told DW.

          But after the latest Kabul attack, and the Afghan government's accusations against Pakistan, the future of the peace talks seems bleaker than ever.
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          • #6
            If i were,i would not worry about ghani warning to Pakistan but the poor family you killed.

            Anyway your still not allowed to visit your pak watan and you cant stay long in iran as pakistan and iran are considering corperation on terrorists after the arrest of indian spy.
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            • #7
              Afghanistan and Pakistan maybe divided politically but both needs each other for better future.

              They are infact one country with similar people,faith and cultural yet foreign forces had successfully divided them so much
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
                pakistan and iran are considering corperation on terrorists after the arrest of indian spy.
                Iran doesnt cooperate with anyone least of all smelly subhuman pakis against which Iran built a 10ft high concrete wall along the border. The only place bordering Iran which the Iranians have done that for.
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                • #9
                  Hahahaha sala kanjar baloch terrorists di maa di phuddi

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Friends of Baloch View Post
                    Iran doesnt cooperate with anyone least of all smelly subhuman pakis against which Iran built a 10ft high concrete wall along the border. The only place bordering Iran which the Iranians have done that for.
                    Are you really Baloch or Indian? You only talk about skin colour in your posts knowing fully well most baloch are as dark as coal. And also Iran sealing the border to keep "Iranic" baloch away should be concern for any wannabe be baloch but you're quite happy?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by dawn View Post
                      Are you really Baloch or Indian? You only talk about skin colour in your posts knowing fully well most baloch are as dark as coal. And also Iran sealing the border to keep "Iranic" baloch away should be concern for any wannabe be baloch but you're quite happy?
                      He's a confused terrorist.He killed a woman and a child in his own town and is now in exile.

                      What i have heard recently is that the people of dera bugti consider him as not one of them.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Friends of Baloch View Post
                        Iran doesnt cooperate with anyone least of all smelly subhuman pakis against which Iran built a 10ft high concrete wall along the border. The only place bordering Iran which the Iranians have done that for.
                        If iran can give up Uzair baloch?dont you think your says are also numbered
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
                          He's a confused terrorist.He killed a woman and a child in his own town and is now in exile.

                          What i have heard recently is that the people of dera bugti consider him as not one of them.
                          Hopefully ISI can take him out. If he's living in Iran then his days are numbered, now they are handing over even Indian agents. He should be brought back to Pakistan and hanged for killing women and child.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by dawn View Post
                            Hopefully ISI can take him out. If he's living in Iran then his days are numbered, now they are handing over even Indian agents. He should be brought back to Pakistan and hanged for killing women and child.
                            He's protected by agencies working against Pakistan.

                            He was most likely provided sanction by RAW in iran as they thought of him as someone influential in the bugti tribe but when they came to know that he's considered a subhuman by his own People for the murders he committed.They discarded him and now he has left for australia.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by dawn View Post
                              Are you really Baloch or Indian? You only talk about skin colour in your posts knowing fully well most baloch are as dark as coal. And also Iran sealing the border to keep "Iranic" baloch away should be concern for any wannabe be baloch but you're quite happy?
                              Yes his obsession with skin colour is a little weird es since as you said plenty of Baloch are dark anyway aylmao...

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