The idea of 'Pashtunistan' taking physical forms

[Khostai]

Let face reality:

The security adviser of Ghani, Hanif Atmar, ordered the withdraw of army and police officers with non-Pashtun background to withdraw from south and east... to make south and east again a hub for Pakistani and home-made terrorists .. ISIS and all kind of creatures are coming for your, Khostay priend! I think your little ethno-fascist mentality doesn´t understand the point. Pashtuns are going to become a common target from all compass point .. from north, west, south and east because of the failed calculation of your fascist representatives and british-pakistani spies (i.e Ghani, Atmar and the rest of the Taliban friendly rings in the presidential palace). Have you seen the video of Dostum men raping Pashtun civilians in Faryaab just view weeks ago when Dostom declared military operation and action on Taliban there? Even small children were touched!

US-Pakistan-Karzai (who got cheated by all sides) deal for post 2014 Afghanistan, particularely for Pashtun regions of Afghanistan

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/9735539/Taliban-could-govern-parts-of-Afghanistan-under-new-peace-deal.html

http://gandhara.rferl.org/a/afghanistan-helmand-province-taliban-peace/27581146.html

https://www.facebook.com/463800973747599/videos/824673760993650/

https://www.facebook.com/afghanistanpost2016/videos/660420104095906/

https://www.facebook.com/GandharaRFE/videos/886144058150197/

Wasn´t all this just a process to hand over parts of Afghanistan to Taliban to stop the so-called ''Generation killing'' by the evil evil evil remnants of the evil evil evil 'Northern Alliance'?

https://www.facebook.com/afghanistanpost2016/videos/vb.656254304512486/659686284169288/?type=2&theater

Just remember this and you will understand abit more than your pseudo anti-Tajik BS https://www.facebook.com/afghanistan...type=3&theater

:D

So tell me, which country? Are you talking about that future pseudo governments of Taliban in the south, the pseudo government of savage Waziristanis and Haqqanis in eastern Afghanistan sharing parts of it with ISIS? Or are you talking about the real plan behind this, the idea of 'Loy Pakistan' ? Better you start already cooking Daal lol

Ps: if you can not stay honest and serious in a discussion or debate without bringing your alldays pseudo fascism, keep away from my posts!

lol, niggah do you have sources except facebook? No I think not, shut your disgusting fascist mouth and go play with your bacha bazi. Disguting creature.

[tilla_jogian]

lol, niggah do you have sources except facebook? No I think not, shut your disgusting fascist mouth and go play with your bacha bazi. Disguting creature.

Dude you should at least put some effort to answer him? You make this forum even more retarded by your posts.

[ComradePashtun]

There is nothing to reply to the guy as he does not make any sense. You need a qualified doctor to help with his psychosis.

[Zaadgaan Kabul]

Dude you should at least put some effort to answer him? You make this forum even more retarded by your posts.

Thank you. At least you people in Pakistan have learned how to behave civilized and to discuss logical. In Afghanistan we can´t expect such attitudes from such creatures like 'Khostai'. That´s why he would be used in Afghanistan for terrorist savagery and suicide campaigns.

[Shapur]

If it was this simple Pakistan had organized that referundum a long time ago. But either Pakistan never wanted any peace and used the duran line as an excuse to intervene in Afghanistan or they know if such referendum will take place Pashtun will choose to ditch the border. Either way both outcomes are not what Pakistan wants. And I think its kind of naive to think that Pakistan will come around and stop with exporting extremism and terrorism by just recognizing the Durrand line.
So which one of them is it?

Trust me, everyone wants peace including Pakistan on their western border so they can concentrate on their eastern border with India. It will be one less headache for Pakistan. I am almost certain Pashtun in Pakistan will choose to stay within Pakistan, the idea of joining a war torn Afghanistan is not very appealing at the moment to say the least and will not ditch the border. Pakistan has used terrorism as a tool but they are getting burt themselves because extremists don't respect borders or nation satates and Pakistan will learn that if they haven't already. Tell me what other reason Pakistan has to interfere in Afghanistan except for the Durand Line issue?

[Zaadgaan Kabul]

Trust me, everyone wants peace including Pakistan on their western border so they can concentrate on their eastern border with India. It will be one less headache for Pakistan. I am almost certain Pashtun in Pakistan will choose to stay within Pakistan, the idea of joining a war torn Afghanistan is not very appealing at the moment to say the least and will not ditch the border. Pakistan has used terrorism as a tool but they are getting burt themselves because extremists don't respect borders or nation satates and Pakistan will learn that if they haven't already. Tell me what other reason Pakistan has to interfere in Afghanistan except for the Durand Line issue?

Pakistan´s political aims are:

1. the western border should be officially recognized by Kabul
2. to widen its influence to the northern -Stans and turning parts of Afghanistan to its military base for the worst case that India should be able to step in on Pakistani ground

My comment to their first aim:

It´s silly if Pakistan insists that Kabul should recognize the so-called 'Durand Line'. I don´t know why Pakistan create for itself so much headache. Afghanistan, a failed state, a country without power, without a regularely army or police forces, without political peace and a common (among its different political and ethnical fractions) interest in the region, is the only country globally that doesn not recognize Pakistan. Even India and Israel are recognizing Pakistan. Noone in this world ever have taken our government serious. We have some ultra-nationalist parties that claim the Durand Line as not legitimated, not knowing the history behind it but the absolute majority of the population are already accepting Durand Line as the official border between the two countries. 99% of non-Pashtuns and their leaders are supporting in this regard the Pakistani claims and demands. Majority of Pashtuns who never ever left their villages and haven´t seen the world beyond a 4km radius doe not care about this 'line'. They have to feed their families and their communities. Most of them doesn´t even know that the world is made by more than Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Afghanistan. These three names are the only names they have ever heard. Just the usage of the name Pakistan makes everyone of us to recognize the Durand Line as the official border between Afghanistan and Pakistan. Pakistan should not make itself foolish and take some crying babies in Kabul or elsewhere in Afghanistan too serious. These people have neither power nor money or people. These people create just more problems for Afghanistan for their own personal advantages. They use the blood of innocent people to enrich themselves by trying to fool a whole country. If war starts they easily step in an air plane and fly to Dubai, Arabia or to West. Those who get killed will be the ordinary people. All these ultra-nationalist a**sholes have used Pashtuns and fled the country and returned back after 2001 and now again Pashtuns are dying and they are again ready to leave the country.

I want my Pakistani world companions to know that at least 80% of Afghanistan are on your side and accept the full integrity of Pakistan. They do not intend to destroy or to kill Pakistan and its philosophy. You have the same right to be there, like Afghanistan has. Both countries are creation of western imperialism with the same international father - The United Kingdom! You don´t need to be worried if some people claim your land as theirs. They can´t and will never be able to harm you or us.

[Zaadgaan Kabul]

Pakistan in Helmand

https://www.facebook.com/omidjan.omid.77/videos/444762952383933/

[Khostai]

Trust me, everyone wants peace including Pakistan on their western border so they can concentrate on their eastern border with India. It will be one less headache for Pakistan. I am almost certain Pashtun in Pakistan will choose to stay within Pakistan, the idea of joining a war torn Afghanistan is not very appealing at the moment to say the least and will not ditch the border. Pakistan has used terrorism as a tool but they are getting burt themselves because extremists don't respect borders or nation satates and Pakistan will learn that if they haven't already. Tell me what other reason Pakistan has to interfere in Afghanistan except for the Durand Line issue?

Peace in Afghanistan means the end of money from USA that flows in to Pakistan. The end of war in Afghanistan will also mean a stable country next to their own what can result Pashtuns in Pakistn to switch side. Now days Pashtuns in Pakistan are seen as second class citizens, paki goverment bombs them and they do not even help the poor people of that region whos houses and shops are destroyed, would they do that in Punjab to their own Punjabis? No they would not.

Like you said before, majority Pashtun will not choose Afghanisyan now becuase Afghanistan is in war and is poor. So if war in Afghanistan will end and Afghanistan will use it mineral reserves and becomes stable do you think those Pashtuns will not change their mind about Afghanistan? Ofcourse they will. Pakistan does not want that the Pashtun would try to break away and belive me once Afghanistan will become stable they will try to influence Paki Pashtun to choose their side. And Pakistan knows that and thats why they are in favour of slave minded Taliban. Becuase taliban ruling Afghanistan means an easy way to inderectly control the country. Or if that does not work than Pakistan is happy to send more terrorists to destabelize the country.

For Pakistan it is either taliban ruled Afghanistan, or Afghanistn like now, unstable and in a war.

[Friends of Baloch]

Tell me what other reason Pakistan has to interfere in Afghanistan except for the Durand Line issue?

The reason is your massive paki inferiority complex towards your own dark skinned race and Hindu low caste culture.

You want people to associate you with Central Asia and the Middle East instead of your actual mother, India.

That is why pakis interfere in Afghanistan. They want to claim Afghan history and heritage as their own thinking that this will help them to become disassociated from their Dalit ancestors and shameful history of having always been a conquered and humiliated people throughout the past 3000 years.

[tilla_jogian]

The reason is your massive paki inferiority complex towards your own dark skinned race and Hindu low caste culture.

You want people to associate you with Central Asia and the Middle East instead of your actual mother, India.

That is why pakis interfere in Afghanistan. They want to claim Afghan history and heritage as their own thinking that this will help them to become disassociated from their Dalit ancestors and shameful history of having always been a conquered and humiliated people throughout the past 3000 years.

Men IMO baloch nationalists have inferioity complex, I mean they believe to be belong to iranid race but are actually dravidians who speak balochi. And then there is african heritage among many of you. Most baloch are as dark as coal. In Iran they consider Sistan border of south asia because of how dark they are. lmao

Despite all this nationalist baloch can't speak of anything but skin color.

[Loy Afghanistan]

You are funny guy! Afghanistan was not created by western imperialism so suck that "shiit" up!

[Orakzai]

You are funny guy! Afghanistan was not created by western imperialism so suck that "shiit" up!

Modern-day Afghanistan is only sustained by American imperialism. If it weren't for US involvement in the '90s which forced Pakistan to back off, Afghanistan would have gone kaput.
Your attitude is the classic case of an irrelevant teaboy thinking he's the next Napoleon. Listen. Afghanistan only exists to serve tea and bring pleasure to it's masters (US, Iran, India, Pakistan, Russia etc).

[KGODB]

You are funny guy! Afghanistan was not created by western imperialism so suck that "shiit" up!

modern day Afghanistan is the byproduct of a Russian-British allowance for a Muhammadzai Buffer State

[DSM0305]

modern day Afghanistan is the byproduct of a Russian-British allowance for a Muhammadzai Buffer State

This isn't exactly true. If we look at history, Afghanistan as a country existed prior to any British or Russian intervention. The only difference that occurred when British came to the chess board, was that Afghanistan lost Territory. Other than that, nothing new took shape. Losing territory isn't exactly considered a ''British product'' or ''byproduct'' as you put it.

[Zaadgaan Kabul]

The reason is your massive paki inferiority complex towards your own dark skinned race and Hindu low caste culture.

You want people to associate you with Central Asia and the Middle East instead of your actual mother, India.

That is why pakis interfere in Afghanistan. They want to claim Afghan history and heritage as their own thinking that this will help them to become disassociated from their Dalit ancestors and shameful history of having always been a conquered and humiliated people throughout the past 3000 years.

Pakis started to interfere in Afghanistan when the drunken and crazy prince named Dawood trained and funded tribal insurgency in Afghanistan and afterwards sending them to Pakistan. Last but not least, the invasion of Pakistani territory by Kabul´s soldiers. The whole story starts there.