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  • #16
    Originally posted by DSM0305 View Post
    As many members already mention. Launching an operation at any scale is far to costly in foreign land, especially Afghanistan. Having troops in north Waziristan is in itself very costly, but still manageable. If Pakistan have to extend its journey toward Afghanistan, not only will it drain Pakistan dry economically, but also loss of life of the Pakistani military will be unsustainable high.
    The reason why Pakistan was able to launch those operations in north west Pakistan, is due to the fact the wast majority of the population relocated. Making it extremely easy for the military to proceed with the march. Even then the cost and the death was still high.
    Now imagine coming into a hostile territory in a foreign land. Not mentioning the natural forth that part of Afghanistan is. The air power will be completely useless and the ground troops will be nothing but walking ducks.
    Also not to mention that militia all over the country will be standing in line to finally get a chance on killing their ''nemesis''. It will become a billboard of who killed the most Pakistani troops. In war the most important factor is the motivation. Imagine the motivation of finally killing foreign army with no drawback in political rivalry in their own country.
    Now lets not forget the notional army of Afghanistan. As much people complain or insults them, calling them names or whatever. The fact is that in the current conflict, they lack motivation due the fact that it is a civil war. No army in the world will have the will to fight, if they don't have anything to fight for. That the situation in Afghanistan. There is no motivation to fight their own country men, especially in the current political situation of Afghanistan. Now imagine the tremendous motivation they will get in a war against their neighboring ''arc rival''. They finally get to fight a foreign enemy and enjoy the full ''honor and glory'' of war. Instead of being seen as criminals among their people, they will be seen as heroes.

    It doesn't matter how much 12 year old Pakistani kids thing it is some kind of playstation game, where they click attack and the army with strongest stats win; it will by no means change the reality.
    The reality is and will remain, that there is nothing one can do, other than waging a proxy war. In that scenario it will hurt both countries obviously. The best thing these two countries can do, is increasing cooperation with each other and stop the proxy war. This way, both countries can benefit.
    Last year 8000 ANA soldiers were killed by Taliban, to put things in to perspective since 2003 6376 Paki soldiers have died in hands of terrorists. And unlike in Afghanistan, 70% of army causalities in Pakistan are because of random bomb blasts.

    So ANA is motivated, we all know dynamics of ANA and who they are fighting. They will fight taliban even without label of ANA, they are just incompetent in general.

    Till USA is in Afghanistan, they will continue to bomb taliban from air. Pakistanis doesn't need to bomb them at all. Neither invade because cost of such operation will be too high and Pakistan doesn't have budget of USA. So only option left is to fence it as Pakistan defence minister clearly implied after recent attacks from Afghanistan based terrorists.

    Reality is that 70% terrorism has decreased after zarb azb, I can see it reducing even more in couple of years. But never 100% clear of terrorism, that's impossible for any country.
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    • #17
      To see how incompetent ANA is watch ISIL vs Taliban video on youtube. One warlord randomly bomb afghan village from far away where ISIL are supposed to be in. When reporter ask him about if you was sure about place you are bombing, he responded saying everyone in that village have his mobile number so they know whats coming.

      He then goes on about yesterday some afghan called him to not bomb but he could hear instruction being given to afghan caller by some punjabi speaking person LMAO So punjabi was giving instruction to afghan pashtun in punjabi while he was calling afghan warlord to not bomb his home. perfect
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      • #18
        Pakistan is conducting cross border attacks for years. From Kunar all the way to Helmand, Paki forces have taken large pieces of land and occupied it while pretending to be attacking TTP.

        Due to these cross border attacks many residents of Lalpur in Nangarhar and likewise others in Kunar have been forced to flee.

        Pakistan shells villages across the border with their heavy artillery.


        Afghanistan knows that Pakistan is doing this but ******* president Ghani and that drag queen Abdullah aren't doing anything. During Karzai government people protested and marched to raise awareness. Some even suggested taking up arms against the Hindus but eventually nothing happened.
        Originally posted by Firdousi
        Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
          Pakistan is conducting cross border attacks for years. From Kunar all the way to Helmand, Paki forces have taken large pieces of land and occupied it while pretending to be attacking TTP.

          Due to these cross border attacks many residents of Lalpur in Nangarhar and likewise others in Kunar have been forced to flee.

          Pakistan shells villages across the border with their heavy artillery.


          Afghanistan knows that Pakistan is doing this but ******* president Ghani and that drag queen Abdullah aren't doing anything. During Karzai government people protested and marched to raise awareness. Some even suggested taking up arms against the Hindus but eventually nothing happened.
          If this is the case, what are your countrymen speaking of? Apparently we're regularly beating your forces to pulp, but at the same time we're no match for you, we'll never be able to carry out a cross-border attack on Afghanistan etc.

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          • #20
            Afghanistan does not have a functioning air force. They go everywhere on foot.

            Pakiland on the other hand uses helicopters and jet fighters to bomb Pashtun villagers and tribes people and then takes few journalists to empty villages bombed out from the sky and declares that fictional ground operation was victory for napak army and retreats to barracks.

            Genetically inferior pakis are natural born cowards and liars.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Friends of Baloch View Post
              Afghanistan does not have a functioning air force. They go everywhere on foot.

              Pakiland on the other hand uses helicopters and jet fighters to bomb Pashtun villagers and tribes people and then takes few journalists to empty villages bombed out from the sky and declares that fictional ground operation was victory for napak army and retreats to barracks.

              Genetically inferior pakis are natural born cowards and liars.
              The Pakistani military uses helicopters and jet fighters because they haven't flushed all their money away on drugs and dancing boys. Nothing to do with genetic inferiority.

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              • #22
                Pakis will dare not misadventure into Afghanistan in any form or shape. It will be the beginning of a long conflict and one it will surely lose. Afghanistan is no Waziristan or Swat and any scrawny daalkhor is bound to bite the dust there. However, daalkhors could launch air-strikes only and only but that will be inviting other to do the same. U.S and India, and of course we will also even if we could take to the air and drop some stones on Talibs there. In any event I will personally welcome it.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by ComradePashtun View Post
                  Pakis will dare not misadventure into Afghanistan in any form or shape. It will be the beginning of a long conflict and one it will surely lose. Afghanistan is no Waziristan or Swat and any scrawny daalkhor is bound to bite the dust there. However, daalkhors could launch air-strikes only and only but that will be inviting other to do the same. U.S and India, and of course we will also even if we could take to the air and drop some stones on Talibs there. In any event I will personally welcome it.
                  You realize Pakis eat more meat then afghandus? You are making fun of dhal which is rich in protein and average afghani can't even afford onions forget about meat.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                    Pakistan is conducting cross border attacks for years. From Kunar all the way to Helmand, Paki forces have taken large pieces of land and occupied it while pretending to be attacking TTP.

                    Due to these cross border attacks many residents of Lalpur in Nangarhar and likewise others in Kunar have been forced to flee.

                    Pakistan shells villages across the border with their heavy artillery.


                    Afghanistan knows that Pakistan is doing this but ******* president Ghani and that drag queen Abdullah aren't doing anything. During Karzai government people protested and marched to raise awareness. Some even suggested taking up arms against the Hindus but eventually nothing happened.
                    In good time, once Talib mordagaws are dealt with. All this is happening when your dala Taliban are crapping on daal there. You must be proud of that mordagaw ISI agent Amir Ul Muslimeen Mullah Akhtar Mansour the drug baron.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by tilla_jogian View Post
                      You realize Pakis eat more meat then afghandus? You are making fun of dhal which is rich in protein and average afghani can't even afford onions forget about meat.
                      Hahahaha no matter what the fk you eat you are scrawny, unsteady and genetically weak human being. Eating meat alone cannot make up for your inherent weakness, Gandu. Daal is the least best source of protein. By the way you eat alot of goat in Pakistan so hence you are more like a goat.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by ComradePashtun View Post
                        but that will be inviting other to do the same. U.S and India
                        Thats the only reason, perhaps, stopping Pakistan from carrying out surgical strikes in Afghanistan.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by ComradePashtun View Post
                          Hahahaha no matter what the fk you eat you are scrawny, unsteady and genetically weak human being. Eating meat alone cannot make up for your inherent weakness, Gandu. Daal is the least best source of protein. By the way you eat alot of goat in Pakistan so hence you are more like a goat.
                          Now you will call us goatkhor also? I just wonder why afghanis make fun of food when Afghanistan is lowest ranked country in world hunger index. With afghanistan population explosion and hardly any agriculture forget about meat, most of you will continue to move to Pakistan just to put some food on table.

                          shame on you
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                          • #28
                            It is very likely the raids have already taken place, with the Haqqanis acting as tribal guides and scouts. There is no honor among thieves, certainly not terrorists.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Al-Afghani View Post
                              It is very likely the raids have already taken place, with the Haqqanis acting as tribal guides and scouts. There is no honor among thieves, certainly not terrorists.
                              I always though you was Pakistani, only recently I have discovered you are afghani. Any reason you have not abused anyone so far?
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by ComradePashtun View Post
                                In good time, once Talib mordagaws are dealt with. All this is happening when your dala Taliban are crapping on daal there. You must be proud of that mordagaw ISI agent Amir Ul Muslimeen Mullah Akhtar Mansour the drug baron.
                                You must have been raised in a mordagaw household. That's why you keep saying it in every sentence.
                                Originally posted by Firdousi
                                Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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