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    Preparatory meeting for peace talks with Taliban is likely to be held in islamabad on Monday.
    Afghanistan government, US, china, pakistan and Afghanistan islamic emirate will have their seats. Iran has shown willingness to take part in the conference but has not yet received a response from Afghanistan government.

    what are your thought and possible outcome of the peace process?

  • #2
    Nothing, they will talk. The fatass of Paki Emirates will fill their bellies with some cake and samoosa and go home. Just waste of time.

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    • #3
      Why isn't anyone asking Pakistan who they are to be hosting these meetings?? They are going to talk Afghanistan in to coming in to peaceful terms with these Pakistani trained terrorists and then let them flood into Afghanistan and then make it seem like they did us a favour. You have to be some other level of **** to be sitting in one of these meetings or taking them seriously.

      "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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      • #4
        surprise. there are no talks actually. pakistan is trying to bring some mid level talib to negotiation table, and two days ago taliban expelled two senior leader who were part of rehbari shura Mullah Abdul Razzaq and Mullah Hasan Rehmani. both agreed to peace talks and previously were part of unofficial talks held in china.
        taliban have made their intention clear and said those who take part in any meeting will not be our true representatives.

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        • #5
          ISLAMABAD: Reiterating their longstanding stance not to sit with what they term the “powerless Kabul administration,” the Afghan Taliban have said those who take part in any meeting will not be their true representatives.

          In Kabul, a spokesperson for Chief Executive Abdullah Abdullah claimed Pakistan will “present a list of the Taliban willing to negotiate” with Kabul in the upcoming quadrilateral meeting.



          Earlier reports suggested that the Taliban deputy chief, Sirajudin Haqqani, could be one of the Taliban leaders to join the talks. However, the Taliban leaders dismissed the reports as baseless. “There is no truth in these reports. Siraj has no time to take part in any meeting. The Islamic Emirate does not have any plan,” a Taliban leader said.


          “There may be possibility some fake people are being introduced as Taliban. The reality is the Islamic Emirate neither takes part in the talks nor attends meetings as such meetings have no worth,” he added.

          Two Taliban officials spoke with The Express Tribune as senior Pakistani, Chinese and US officials are scheduled to join Afghanistan in key talks in Islamabad on Monday, to explore options to bring the stalled peace process back on track.



          The Taliban had earlier confirmed the expulsion of two senior leaders – Abdul Razaq and Hasan Rehmani – as some sources say they could agree to sit with Kabul. Both had taken part in a meeting with Afghan officials in the Chinese city of Urumqi last year in February.

          Meanwhile, diplomatic sources told The Express Tribune that Afghan Deputy Foreign Minister, Khalil Hekmat Karzai, is scheduled to arrive in Islamabad later today [Sunday] to lead Kabul in the quadrilateral meeting.

          Hekmat was one of the senior members of the Afghan team that had taken part in the first ever face-to-face meeting with the Taliban in Murree in early July, last year. The Mureee Process was scuttled after the Afghan intelligence agency revealed the death of the former Taliban chief, Mullah Omar.

          Afghan leaders have attached high hopes to the four-nation process as they consider it a “window of opportunity” to reduce violence in Afghanistan. They also want the process to stop the Taliban from launching their annual “spring offensive” this year.



          The Taliban routinely begin the major operations in late March or early April and they intend to go ahead with their annual offensive, a senior Taliban leader told The Express Tribune.

          Islamabad will be the centre of official and unofficial activities relating to Afghanistan as besides the four-nation meeting, two unofficial meetings will also take place in the capital city.

          Further, the third round of the China-Afghanistan-Pakistan Trilateral Dialogue being held on Monday would focus on the continuing the Afghan peace process with special emphasis on the role of China and Pakistan.


          The objective is to “highlight the role of China and Pakistan, as well as that of the regional countries” in the pursuit of finding a peaceful resolution to the Afghan conflict, Senator Mushahid Hussain Syed, Chairman of the Pak-China Institute said.

          In addition to this, Afghan and Pakistani members of parliament and defence analysts will hold a two-day track-II security dialogue in Islamabad next week with the support of the British government.

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          • #6
            Well i am not in favour of peace deals with talibs but since incase of Afghanistan we need peace in the country as soon as possible,So we should give it a try
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            • #7
              Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
              Why isn't anyone asking Pakistan who they are to be hosting these meetings?? They are going to talk Afghanistan in to coming in to peaceful terms with these Pakistani trained terrorists and then let them flood into Afghanistan and then make it seem like they did us a favour. You have to be some other level of **** to be sitting in one of these meetings or taking them seriously.
              this is the problem, pakistan is hijacking the whole peace process and want to negotiate on their terms. pakistan will loose it's upper hand if it happen in qatar.
              actually no body can do anything about it, Afghanistan can do whining only and US have no objection with talks happening in islamabad.
              taliban are not happy with this, but they can't afford pakistan enmity. eventually pakistan will give the world impression like they did a very great favor to afghanistan.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
                Well i am not in favour of peace deals with talibs but since incase of Afghanistan we need peace in the country as soon as possible,So we should give it a try
                because you know talib will came for revenge and will never respect your boundary. pakistan don't have the economy to fight the more determined talib.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by marwat View Post
                  this is the problem, pakistan is hijacking the whole peace process and want to negotiate on their terms. pakistan will loose it's upper hand if it happen in qatar.
                  actually no body can do anything about it, Afghanistan can do whining only and US have no objection with talks happening in islamabad.
                  taliban are not happy with this, but they can't afford pakistan enmity. eventually pakistan will give the world impression like they did a very great favor to afghanistan.
                  There is nothing to hijack. Nothing peaceful or good comes out of negotiating with terrorists. Coming in to terms with someone means dividing the power and accepting their terms on some level. What do terrorists have to offer?? The fact that they think it's a good idea to sit down and negotiate tells exactly how easily these government officials can be bought. You wouldn't dare take your ****ty proposition to someone you didn't expect to accept your bs.
                  It's all a nice ****ty staged show they are putting up.

                  "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by marwat View Post
                    because you know talib will came for revenge and will never respect your boundary. pakistan don't have the economy to fight the more determined talib.
                    We defeated them on any front you can name.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
                      We defeated them on any front you can name.
                      there is no winning when it comes to taliban. your army will retreat once america stop colitian fund. mark my word. further pakistan agreed to hand over FATA to TTP if they came in peace, which means you have already accepted their authority

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
                        There is nothing to hijack. Nothing peaceful or good comes out of negotiating with terrorists. Coming in to terms with someone means dividing the power and accepting their terms on some level. What do terrorists have to offer?? The fact that they think it's a good idea to sit down and negotiate tells exactly how easily these government officials can be bought. You wouldn't dare take your ****ty proposition to someone you didn't expect to accept your bs.
                        It's all a nice ****ty staged show they are putting up.
                        so what do you suggest, that taliban should roll over kabul with rocket launcher. this is what i am seeing. at least if peace talks succeed government can hold on to 15 years of development,trade, woman rights and other important things. if peace talks fails talib will take Afghanistan by force an way. and what do you means by dividing power? do you think that power is only fit with double abdullah or Ashraf ghani. to the victor belongs the spoils. if talib can take it by force he is the legitimate owner of the power

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by marwat View Post
                          so what do you suggest, that taliban should roll over kabul with rocket launcher. this is what i am seeing. at least if peace talks succeed government can hold on to 15 years of development,trade, woman rights and other important things. if peace talks fails talib will take Afghanistan by force an way. and what do you means by dividing power? do you think that power is only fit with double abdullah or Ashraf ghani. to the victor belongs the spoils. if talib can take it by force he is the legitimate owner of the power
                          Taliban can only atack, they have not power to control, or you mean they are going the start mass killing everyone who will not bow to them, even than they would not have enough bullets to kill all.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Khostai View Post
                            Taliban can only atack, they have not power to control, or you mean they are going the start mass killing everyone who will not bow to them, even than they would not have enough bullets to kill all.
                            No, thy will kill those who stand against them and will try to win over those who are neutral in conflict, and will subdue those who resist them but not the hard way. i am sure they have enough bullet to do so.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by marwat View Post
                              No, thy will kill those who stand against them and will try to win over those who are neutral in conflict, and will subdue those who resist them but not the hard way. i am sure they have enough bullet to do so.
                              I don't think so, all the minorities are against taliban, who make up half of the Afghan population, only Pashtuns support them and only becuase of the ethnicity. Taliban are not in power to take control, there will be just a lot of bloodshed if the current goverment falls.

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