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    Taliban leader Mullah Akhtar Mansour has been seriously wounded in Pakistan in a shootout between senior members of the Islamist movement, Taliban sources said on Wednesday, but the group's main spokesman dismissed their report as "baseless".

    The conflicting accounts deepen the confusion over the already opaque leadership situation in the Taliban following the death of the movement's founder Mullah Mohammad Omar and cloud prospects for any resumption of stalled peace talks.

    Two Taliban commanders said Mansour, whose authority is disputed by rival factions in the Islamist movement, was wounded when fighting broke out over strategic issues in the house of a senior Taliban leader called Mullah Abdullah Sarhadi outside Quetta in western Pakistan.

    "During the discussion, some senior people developed differences and they opened fire on each other," one of the commanders said.

    He said five senior Taliban members had died on the spot and more than a dozen, including Mullah Mansour, had suffered serious bullet injuries. Mansour was being treated in a private hospital after being hit four times by bullets from an AK-47 assault rifle, the Taliban commander said.

    However, Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid denied the incident ever took place and said Mansour was in Afghanistan.

    "This is a rumor which is completely baseless. Akthar Mohammad Mansour is totally fine and nothing has happened to him," he told Reuters.

    "This is the act of Afghan intelligence agencies. They spread these rumors about a clash between Taliban leaders. Nothing happened like this even in that area".

    The Taliban has faced serious internal divisions since it was confirmed in July that Mullah Omar had actually died two years earlier.

    Mansour, Mullah Omar's longtime deputy, was immediately named leader but some sections of the Islamist group quickly rejected his claim, accusing him of covering up Omar's death and saying that Pakistan had steered his appointment.

    His grip on the leadership appeared to have been tightened by the capture of the northern city of Kunduz in late September, which insurgents held for several days before government forces could regain control.

    UNCERTAINTY

    What the latest incident may mean for the Afghan peace process remains unclear for now.

    There were varying accounts of exactly what may have happened in the incident, with some sources saying it took place in the southern Afghan city of Kandahar near the border with Pakistan's Balochistan province.

    According to the first Taliban commander, the meeting on Tuesday was to discuss the future of any peace talks with the United States and the Kabul government as well as the strategy for dealing with a rival splinter group headed by Mullah Mohammad Rasool Akhund, which rejects Mansour's authority.

    A second source said the dispute had broken out over ways of dealing with the rival faction, following heavy fighting in the southeastern province of Zabul last month in which dozens of people were killed.

    "We have no access to Mullah Mansour after the incident last night. We have been hearing that he had succumbed to his injuries but we can neither confirm nor deny it," said the second Taliban commander, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

    Afghan President Ashraf Ghani said this week that he was ready to talk to Taliban members but he cautioned that since the death of Mullah Omar there was "no such thing as the Taliban There are groups of Taliban..."

    According to some officials in the Kabul government, Mullah Mansoor Dadullah, a senior commander in the group that opposes Mansour, was killed in last month's fighting, although the claim has been denied by a spokesman for his faction.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0TL1XV20151202

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    Didn't daa dulls surrender himself a couple of years ago??

    "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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    • #3
      that is pure thug life and extremely unprofessional, i never expected some thing like this from taliban political shura, i thought they are professional scholar full of wisdom.
      but what is this , they are holding ak47 in hands while trying to settle a dispute? is this some kind of village loafer gathered for quail fighting.

      i would also like to present my conspiracy theory on this one.
      previously it was reported that mansour dadullah was killed by his own man who was working for akhtar mansour. maybe akhtar mansour own person like some kind of guard or something who secretly work for rival taliban faction have opened fire on taliban leader

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      • #4
        Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
        Didn't daa dulls surrender himself a couple of years ago??


        Mansoor Dadullah was captured and released by the pakis. Eventually killed by the current Talib leader, Akhtar Mansour, for not pledging loyalty. It seems Dadullah's men have taken revenge, as is the custom of Pashtuns.

        ISI may have pulled off a coup de etat within the Taliban leadership, but now it's time to deal with the blowback.

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        • #5
          Never mind. That is not the daadullah I was talking about. Regardless, why do you have to glorify his death by suggesting it was the result of his betrayal to mansour Shadibaz?? What does the loyalty of such people mean??

          "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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          • #6
            Fate of Afghan Taliban leader unclear after reports say he was wounded or killed

            PESHAWAR: Conflicting reports have deepened uncertainty surrounding the fate of Afghan Taliban leader Mullah Akhtar Mansour, after the insurgent extremist group repeatedly denied he had been wounded in a gunfight after a dispute with other senior leaders.

            Several sources in the Taliban have said that Mansour, whose claim to the leadership is rejected by a rival faction, was seriously wounded and possibly killed in a shootout at the house of another Taliban leader near Quetta on Tuesday.

            Taliban leader Mullah Akhtar Mansour injured in firefight: officials

            Afghan Chief Executive Abdullah Abdullah said on Twitter Mansour was wounded in a fire-fight near Quetta, in western Pakistan, but there has been no direct evidence.

            The Taliban’s main spokesperson has dismissed the reports as propaganda from Afghan intelligence services meant to create divisions within the movement, saying Mansour is alive and well.

            However, scepticism has been fuelled by the secrecy that surrounded the death of Taliban founder Mullah Mohammad Omar, which was only confirmed in July, two years after he had died.

            There has been no statement from Mansour himself so far and Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid said enhanced security measures meant it was taking some time to contact him directly.

            “Well, we are trying to locate him through our people to get his voice and release to the media to kill these rumours spread by the Afghan puppet government,” Mujahid said.

            ‘Kuchlak meeting’: Kabul ‘confirms’ Taliban chief injured in Pakistan

            The uncertainty has clouded prospects for any resumption in a peace process facilitated by Pakistan after talks broke down in July following the confirmation of Omar’s death.

            Afghan officials are cautious about what the signs of increasing fragmentation in the Taliban could mean. “The rift is certainly weakening the movement and if they are not one united force, it could be easier to convince them for peace or eliminate them,” said one official, who asked not to be identified.

            Other Taliban members close to Mansour have confirmed he had been hurt in the gunfight, which followed a dispute over how to deal with the factional split in the movement, and had apparently been taken to a private hospital for treatment.

            “We even don’t know where he was taken but some of our people later told us he was admitted in a private hospital and that his condition was ‎still critical,” said one senior Taliban member close to Mansour.

            Afghanistan confirms Taliban chief injured in Pakistan gunfight

            Dozens of people were killed in the southeastern province of Zabul last month when fierce clashes broke out between rival Taliban factions. “The local commanders, who are the backbone of the insurgency, seem to disobey their leaders’ orders when it comes to subduing those who don’t accept Mullah Akhtar Mansour as the supreme leader,” the Afghan official said.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Al-Afghani View Post

              Mansoor Dadullah was captured and released by the pakis. Eventually killed by the current Talib leader, Akhtar Mansour, for not pledging loyalty. It seems Dadullah's men have taken revenge, as is the custom of Pashtuns.

              ISI may have pulled off a coup de etat within the Taliban leadership, but now it's time to deal with the blowback.
              1. Taliban are fighting and killing Taliban.

              Meanwhile...

              2. Afghans, including girls, are going to school, becoming better educated, going online and learning about the world, studying abroad for education, have a unified national government in Kabul which has control over all cities of the country and an army backed by China, Russia, India, Turkey etc.


              I wonder who will win?

              * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Bengal_Tiger View Post
                1. Taliban are fighting and killing Taliban.

                Meanwhile...

                2. Afghans, including girls, are going to school, becoming better educated, going online and learning about the world, studying abroad for education, have a unified national government in Kabul which has control over all cities of the country and an army backed by China, Russia, India, Turkey etc.


                I wonder who will win?

                those who have the support of common masses,
                backed by china russia and india but if they are not backed by their own people then they will surely loose

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                • #9
                  Let them all kill each other. The world wil be a much better place with out them.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by marwat View Post
                    that is pure thug life and extremely unprofessional, i never expected some thing like this from taliban political shura, i thought they are professional scholar full of wisdom.
                    but what is this , they are holding ak47 in hands while trying to settle a dispute? is this some kind of village loafer gathered for quail fighting.

                    i would also like to present my conspiracy theory on this one.
                    previously it was reported that mansour dadullah was killed by his own man who was working for akhtar mansour. maybe akhtar mansour own person like some kind of guard or something who secretly work for rival taliban faction have opened fire on taliban leader
                    Professional? Scholars? Full of Wisdom?

                    What Universities have they studied at?



                    "False beliefs influence our actions and degrade our character."

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Damir9000 View Post
                      Professional? Scholars? Full of Wisdom?

                      What Universities have they studied at?
                      universities produce only raw material, and very few scholars, all of my class fellow after 16 year education are dicks except me
                      madrassah are generally stereotyped now but they have produced professional scholars full of wisdom

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by marwat View Post
                        universities produce only raw material, and very few scholars, all of my class fellow after 16 year education are dicks except me
                        madrassah are generally stereotyped now but they have produced professional scholars full of wisdom
                        And what have these "scholars" produced?



                        "False beliefs influence our actions and degrade our character."

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Damir9000 View Post
                          And what have these "scholars" produced?
                          everything from theologian to philosopher

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by marwat View Post
                            everything from theologian to philosopher
                            that's not really an answer.

                            I asked about their works , not who they are.



                            "False beliefs influence our actions and degrade our character."

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