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  • #31
    I would like to clear up some misunderstanding regarding the race part of our ideology. Racism =/= genocide. Racism = love and promotion of races. Similar to the Dari/Parsi word of Nejadparasti (Racism/Race Worshiping) and the bad side of it which is called NejadKOSHI (Race killing). Get to understand: we are race lovers - not race killers. So those who are anti-racist/left wing/liberals etc are actually race-killers because they want to kill / commit genocide against all races on Earth for the sake of their ideology. Some say the masterminds of this international multi-racial / race mixing are the Jews who promote it for all except for themselves - a lot of truth in this too.

    If you read the ideology page of our website - you will find that we support ALTER-GLOBALIZATION. We want to help and co-operate with all nations on Earth - we want true diversity instead of killing peoples identities by mixing them.

    Helpful videos for better understanding:





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    • #32
      Further information:

      A lot of people think that those who go against the Semitic religion of Islam, we are automatically promoting western degeneracy. No. In fact we are against the degenerate values of the west too. Some think that if without Islam our women will dress inappropriately etc - no to that too. Our traditional clothing includes a headgear - we wore the headscarf way before any Arab set foot in Aryana. It's an international dress sense - even east Asian cultures have the headscarf.

      A video to help you understand: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_DJh3QLZPQ
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      • #33
        There's a video on YouTube which promotes racial genocide for Afghans and Africans (Afghan+African mixing)... A lot of our people naturally resisted and left positive comments condemning the video but one of the comments by an Afghan was really nicely written and I will share it with you:

        Mahmood42978 5 months ago
        "MoralCourage" appears to be a trojan horse to debacle the values of those that resist the corrupt norms of modern Western society, It manufactures a narrative that tries to portray the degradation of those as "courageous", but trying to salvage those values as tyranny. but in reality fostering social decay.. Nothing courageous about it, The hijacking of the words "Moral" and "Courage" is a tactic to distort and confuse the real essence of these ideas

        MoralCourageChannel 5 months ago +Mahmood42978 Can you give examples of these "corrupt norms" you're writing about?



        Mahmood42978 5 months ago

        we can start with the content of this video as a perfect example.






        MoralCourageChannel 5 months ago
        +Mahmood42978 Can you be more specific, please? What in this video strikes you as corrupt?





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        Mahmood42978 5 months ago
        +MoralCourageChannel Well let's be analytical for a moment, meta-cognitive if you will.. From an anthropological perspective,, marriage & romantic relationships serve a role facilitating to preserve cultures & societies from extinction. The recreational aspect was secondary, it was just a motivator not the goal, this flips that upside down. This is an example of the disruption of all that, so it's destructive to the welfare of those societies Detailed enough for you? 
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        MoralCourageChannel 5 months ago
        +Mahmood42978 Thanks! Well, we challenge the idea that culture should be preserved at the cost to individual freedom.







        Mahmood42978 5 months ago (edited)
        +MoralCourageChannel Well , then you are admitting you're an open enemy to the well being of people and their native heritage and thereby show you're here to facilitate a hostile movement aimed at destroying people's heritage and societies. Reinforcing my earlier argument, You're hijjacking the terms "Moral courage" to fabricate a narrative of liberation when really promoting corruption to debacle. In essence the opposite of Moral courgae. Cowardice at its core.
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        MoralCourageChannel 5 months ago
        +Mahmood42978 But that's the thing. There are some aspects to culture that are beautiful. But when people value the preservation of their culture ABOVE the freedoms of that culture's individual members, that leads to some pretty nasty outcomes. For example, check out our story "How I fight child molesters in the ultra-Orthodox Jewish community"






        Mahmood42978 5 months ago (edited)
        Also on a side note there's also an inherent paradox with the claim of Individual Freedom? The concept of the individual is also profused through its cultural fabric. what denotes individual freedom is marked through the concepts relayed in the culture. Thereby you're not promoting " individualfreedom" here but rather you're pushing one culture's narrative on another/ Very imperialistic.






        Mahmood42978 5 months ago (edited)
        +MoralCourageChannel Well we're not here to debate what sides you deem beautiful and which sides you don't. We're talking about the central components of a population's or populaces existence itself. Attacking the structure of marriage & family is an attack on the life line of the population itself. With that, your agenda undermines the very lifeline of the people. ...and hence aims to destroy those people at the very core ....their values of marriage & family.







        MoralCourageChannel 5 months ago
        +Mahmood42978 To return to your original point - what in the video do you believe is corrupt?






        Mahmood42978 5 months ago
        +MoralCourageChannel Not sure if you're being deliberately obtuse or not, but I've just finished explaining what it is about this video, what this video signifies that is corrupt.






        MoralCourageChannel 5 months ago
        +Mahmood42978 Our agenda is not to attack the structure of any community or society. Our goal is to support people who are making the difficult decisions to do what they feel is right, often in the face of pushback from their families. In this case, we're supporting Naheed's decision to be part of a new world where love has no borders.










        Mahmood42978 5 months ago
        +MoralCourageChannel Which is in essence attacking the structure of these communities as the communities are woven by their individuals. The individual is not separate from their communities and vice versa This is how populations arise. Either you don't understand what you're saying, or you're double talking. I'm banking on the later.







        MoralCourageChannel 5 months ago
        +Mahmood42978 We understand perfectly. But who are you to decide how an individual should behave based on the community that they're from?





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        Mahmood42978 5 months ago (edited)
        +MoralCourageChannel The very nature of your question is misplaced., Because it's not a "who" that decided. Societies and cultures evolved and emerged, just as species. While not biological systems they are rooted in biological imperatives. It was evolution that molded these societies and they adapted certain practices on marriage & family that ensured their longevity. Your understanding here seems to be predominantly superficial. You're ignoring the deeper question. Survival. This is how peoples survive. That's what decides.
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        MoralCourageChannel 5 months ago
        +Mahmood42978 Do you think that question of survival is still relevant in the 21st century?






        Mahmood42978 5 months ago
        +MoralCourageChannel Absolutely, this video is evidence of that.






        tubester4567 2 months ago (edited)
        +Mahmood42978 What is corrupt about 2 people who love each other and want to be married? This is corrupt to you? Then there is something wrong with you. You use a lot of pseudo intellectual terms but you are just an old fashioned bigot who wants to defend and enforce your Muslim religious values even if it means oppressing other people and forcing them to your way of thinking. There are Christians that say the same things. Culture isnt stagnant, culture changes all the time, and religion is only a part of culture, Muslims are very different in different parts of the world, Christians are different in different parts of the world. Do you have the same outrage when people convert to Islam?? Do you go to mosque and tell the Imam it is wrong to accept converts to Islam because we are changing their culture?? I bet you dont. This woman is still a Muslim but she married a non-muslim, she didnt even convert. If you want to talk about culture, Islam, like Christianity, destroyed culture all around the world over the centuries, and they still do to this day. Minorities are persecuted in the Middle East, Africa and Asia, because they are different from the majority culture, and Islamic extremists want to force people to Islam.. Allowing people to be free and make their own choices doesnt destroy culture, it improves it and makes it safer and more peaceful.. It doesnt even have to destroy religion. There is complete freedom in the west but most people are still Christians. It seems like you have a fear that if you dont control your people, and force them to strict Islamic rules, then Islam will fail, or people will leave. That doesnt have to be the case. Islam could evolve, and be less oppressive and more people might be attracted to it. The west has its problems, but it depends on your interpretation of decay. The west is in much less social decay than most Islamic states that oppress the population, women and minorities, and force people to marry, and execute people for being gay or atheist or for offending Islam. Western society is in much less decay than the middle east , that is in a never ending conflict between Islamic religious sects of Sunni and Shia, where thousands of people are slaughtered and blown to pieces every year. The west is in much less decay when all religions can live together in peace. The world's refugees run to western countries for safety and happiness, and many of them are Muslims from Muslim countries. There is a reason for that. Maybe you should fix your "culture" so Muslim people are not oppressed and living in conflict, instead of forcing religious rules on them..








        Mahmood42978 2 months ago
        +tubester4567 Because it's an illusion. It's not corrupt to me. It's corrupt period. even if you suggest otherwise. It's just your braiinwashing that makes you think it's normal or that the contrary view is "wrong". Break free from your psychological slavery please.
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        • #34
          So what will be the national language of your new found country.
          Don't quote me or speak to me if you hate Afghanistan, you be ignored.

          People with identity crisis will be ignored as well.

          ''When you cant make them see the light, make them feel the heat''
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          • #35
            Originally posted by DSM0305 View Post
            So what will be the national language of your new found country.
            We don't have the answer for this prepared but I can tell you that it will not be one language over another.

            So far we are thinking about creating a language called the Arya language, which is a combination of all the Arya languages - similar to that of our ancestors, the avestanians and vedics. People in ancient times spoke the same language but in a different dialect. Its how we understand eachother - we can understand some Hindi, some Pashto, some Pamiri, some Pashto, some Parsi, some Panjabi etc - because all these languages come from Avestan and Sanskrit. We can even understand some European languages like German, Ukrainian, Spanish etc because they are also related to us... I can provide example upon request.

            For now we have to use all the languages when speaking to that ethnic group. We will have to translate all our works in all the Arya languages to make sure everyone is treated fairly. The future Arya language will unite us even more. According to UNESCO a lot of languages on Earth will die out, specially minority languages like Pamiri, Kalasha, Nuristani, etc - we are going to preserve these languages for historical and study records but at the same time recreate the Arya language to unite and progress.

            Its like how the Jews revived Hebrew after the founding of Israel. Before that the Jews were speaking many languages due to population displacement and now they are all united and speaking only 1 language.
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            • #36
              Why is this fascist neo-nazi tread still not closed? Its bad enough that the whole world think we are barbarians, and now they will think that we are also neo-nazis....

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              • #37
                This idea will never take off, Afghans are mentally enslaved by Arabs and are always one fatwa away from jihad to destroy ideologies hostile against Islam.

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                • #38
                  And how weird is that non of the Islam brigade that fight for shariah and world wide muslim brotherhood do not say a word about this. But when I started a thread about secularism they were screaming like crazy.
                  Shows your true face, that all of you just use Islam for your own political goals and just to get more power. Non of you belive in Allah.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Khostai View Post
                    And how weird is that non of the Islam brigade that fight for shariah and world wide muslim brotherhood do not say a word about this. But when I started a thread about secularism they were screaming like crazy.
                    Shows your true face, that all of you just use Islam for your own political goals and just to get more power. Non of you belive in Allah.
                    Welcome to the age of information. No longer will our people be enslaved by this foreign invasion of the mind. You will see much more things on the internet which you will go mad over - but hey, it's kuffar technology so I suggest you to visit your local arab temple / mosque where such discussions are not present.

                    It's so sad to see that non-Semites "muslims" are still holding onto Islam (Semitic religion that is against non-Semitic heritage)... Funny how the Afghans in the west are more religious than those in Afghanistan - praying 5 times a day - processing takfir - uploading palestinian flag on their profile pics - wearing saudi clothing - excessively saying inshallah/mashallah - facing arabia (in a village i visited in afghanistan, they didnt know that you have to face arabia whilst praying + much more things)...

                    There's so many Islamic States in the Arab world where Islam originates from - if you love Islam so much why don't you move Saudi Arabia? See how they treat you They wont give you citizenship in the first place and you have to pay tax because you're non-arab. How is Islam treating you? Don't tell me that Islam =/= Arab heritage because it is. Islam is part of Arab Heritage and Islam promotes Arab Heritage.
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                    • #40
                      All Aryas (Pashtuns Tajik Nuristanis Kashmiris etc ) who are interested in their heritage watch this video from the 00:26 (26 minutes) mark to 00:47:17 (47minues 17 secs) - you can watch all of it if you want... : https://vimeo.com/61984108
                      Last edited by mazdaarya; 11-28-2015, 10:42 PM.
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                      • #41
                        [MENTION=18104]mazdaarya[/MENTION] you do realise even in modern day Afghanistan there are Afghans of non Aryan stock like Hazara, Turkmen, Uzbek etc? Even more in the northern countries.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by mazdaarya View Post
                          All Aryas (Pashtuns Tajik Nuristanis Kashmiris etc ) who are interested in their heritage watch this video from the 00:26 (26 minutes) mark to 00:47:17 (47minues 17 secs) - you can watch all of it if you want... : https://vimeo.com/61984108
                          Kashmiris? Kashmiris are pakis/indics. They belong with the rest of Dravidians. Their culture and mentality is just like other Hindu peoples.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by mazdaarya View Post
                            Welcome to the age of information. No longer will our people be enslaved by this foreign invasion of the mind. You will see much more things on the internet which you will go mad over - but hey, it's kuffar technology so I suggest you to visit your local arab temple / mosque where such discussions are not present.

                            It's so sad to see that non-Semites "muslims" are still holding onto Islam (Semitic religion that is against non-Semitic heritage)... Funny how the Afghans in the west are more religious than those in Afghanistan - praying 5 times a day - processing takfir - uploading palestinian flag on their profile pics - wearing saudi clothing - excessively saying inshallah/mashallah - facing arabia (in a village i visited in afghanistan, they didnt know that you have to face arabia whilst praying + much more things)...

                            There's so many Islamic States in the Arab world where Islam originates from - if you love Islam so much why don't you move Saudi Arabia? See how they treat you They wont give you citizenship in the first place and you have to pay tax because you're non-arab. How is Islam treating you? Don't tell me that Islam =/= Arab heritage because it is. Islam is part of Arab Heritage and Islam promotes Arab Heritage.
                            I am secularist, I want seperation os state and relligion. I hate Saudi Arabia for me they are the same as North Korea. And read what I wrote, I have problem with your delusional race theory that makes no sence. I see that you also want to include Kashmiris, proves to me that you must be an Indian or something.....

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Friends of Baloch View Post
                              Kashmiris? Kashmiris are pakis/indics. They belong with the rest of Dravidians. Their culture and mentality is just like other Hindu peoples.
                              I bet his is Kashmeri or some Indian dude, those people are total out of touch with reality.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Afghanfootball View Post
                                @mazdaarya you do realise even in modern day Afghanistan there are Afghans of non Aryan stock like Hazara, Turkmen, Uzbek etc? Even more in the northern countries.
                                Afghan is an artificial term. Even Pashtuns shouldn't use it. It is never mentioned in the Avesta or the Rig Veda while Pakhta and Parsa (Pashtun and Parsa/Parsi) is mentioned. These terms like Tajik, Afghan are the creation of the British, Turkics and Semites. They are exonyms (the names that outsiders gave us). The current identity of our people is given to us by the people who subjugated us. We can be morons/idiots and continue propagating the works of our enemies like we are *******s/illegitamate children or we can return to the path of truth. They are erasing our identity so we forget what they've done to us and we can be their mental and even physical slaves.

                                Yes and that's the problem. Countries with too much different ethnicities will never progress. It doesn't mean that we should give away the remaining land / heritage to these non-Aryas... They have their OWN lands with their OWN people as the majority yet we should tolerate them and allow them to increase their numbers in our land at the expense of our rights and identity? Mongolia is 1.565 million km² big and Afghanistan is 652,225 km² big yet we have 30+ million people in Afghanistan while in Mongolia there is 2.9 million people. There is nearly more Mongols in Afghanistan than Mongolia - that is a a threat to our identity. The reason for that is because they came uninvited and killed many of our people. Turkic people like Uzbeks, Turkmens etc have got their own countries too. Turkmenistan is huge with tiny population. The Turks have so much land - nearly all of Central Asia, Western China, Many parts of Russia etc and we should tolerate them when we are not even the majority IN OUR OWN LAND.

                                Countries with MAJORITY of the SAME ethnic group / race is proven to be more stable, progressive, peaceful, powerful and scientific. Look at European and East Asian countries for example. The countries with the highest living standards have people of the SAME stock / SAME IDENTITY. Koreans and Japanese people were not as advanced as the Europeans once upon a time (like 50+ years ago) but now they are so advanced - they make most of the major consumer technologies and scientific discoveries - and why didnt they have so much war? Answer; because they are the majority in their land.

                                On the other hand most of the wars and problems in the world are in the Middle East and Central/South Asia because of the problem of "DIEversity" - diversity in the sense of a melting pot. In Asia Minor there is the problem again where the invading Turks took lands from native Greeks, Persians, Kurds etc - today there is major problems because of this - Should the natives submit to the Turks? No they are not thus there are wars.

                                Besides, the Hazara Mongols are always complaining and milking the media / international community for support - these invaders are getting more attention / help than they deserve - it should be us exposing the atrocities of the Mongols instead of them asking to live a better life in a country that is not theirs. If they want so much from a land that didnt welcome them, then they should return to Mongolia where they are entitled to all the things they want.

                                The modern Uzbeks is a result of Soviet Communist Jewish ideology to distort and destroy the peoples that resisted them - so they moved a lot of Uzbeks into northern Afghanistan, Tajikistan. The works of the Communist Jewish ideology in Central Asia was mainly against the Aryas- hence why they gave Samarkand and Bokhara to them. They want us divided. Thats why the British also divided the Pashtuns into 2 countries (Dirtistan/Pakistan and Afghanistan).
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