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    Muharram, the first month of the Islamic calendar, is observed across the Muslim world in a variety of different ways, for a number of different reasons and on different ends of the spectrum of joy and sorrow. For the Sunnis, they mark Ashura, literally “the tenth” day, with fasting on the day and the day before it in order to show gratitude toward God for destroying Pharaoh and saving Moses and the faithful. For the Shia, it is a time of sorrow and mourning, expressed in different ways, and Ashura is considered the day that Hussein bin Ali, the grandson of the Prophet Muhammad, was killed at the Battle of Karbala by the forces of Caliph Yazid bin Muawiyya. Hussein is revered by both Sunnis and Shias. Although this tragic event happened about 1,400 years ago, it is sadly being used as an excuse to perpetuate the spiralling cycle of sectarian killing and murder across the Middle East.

    Secular commentators and anti-religion advocates tend to point to religion as a leading cause of violence (Richard Dawkins in The God Delusion, for instance) and, on face value, they would appear to have a point. In recent days, Shia mourners have been gunned down by terrorists in Saudi Arabia and Iran, the Israelis and Palestinians are eyeing up the prospects for a Third Intifada in the Holy Land, and the war against the misnomer to end all misnomers, the Islamic State (IS), continues with the Russian Orthodox Church’s blessing. I would personally argue that people kill people for all manner of ideologies, including rabid secularism: just take a look at Stalin, or Turkey’s experience with a military junta standing as “guardians” of Kemalist secularism. Nevertheless, people do die and kill for their religious beliefs, irrespective of whether or not their beliefs have anything even tangentially related to the religion in question.

    For instance, rather than extracting meaning from the death of Hussein at the Battle of Karbala, universally acknowledged as a tragedy by all Muslims, and learning from it to ensure that such intra-communal violence, politicking and division never leads to people needlessly losing their lives again, the event itself has been callously politicised. Iraqi politicians in particular have become infamous for manipulating historical events, and laying the blame at the door of an entire community who had no influence on who lived or died over a millennium ago. A glaring example of this is in how former Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki described peaceful, largely Sunni, protesters in 2013. In a televised speech, Maliki, with full knowledge of what he was sanctioning with his words, said that the “crime that was perpetrated against Hussein has not ended” and that “those who killed Hussein…are present here today, and the champions of Yazid and the champions of Hussein are clashing once again”.

    With politicians such as Maliki holding positions of the highest power and authority in Iraq making religiously charged speeches like that, is it any surprise that sectarian Shia militiamen like the self-titled Abu Azrael (the Angel of Death) can literally slice strips of human flesh from a suspended Sunni with a katana, as though he was a donner kebab? Quite contrary to the romanticisation of a man who is quite possibly a war criminal commonly found in the press, Abu Azrael has even gone on television and said that anyone who criticises the Shia Popular Mobilisation Unit (PMU) “is a terrorist”, which would of course include many commentators and analysts the world over. In Iraq, terrorism is a capital offence. These problems have not been resolved with Maliki’s removal from executive power, as the aforementioned human donner kebab incident happened on Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi’s watch, who was also photographed kissing Abu Azrael from his head, a sign of the deepest respect in Arab culture.

    The religious authorities in Iraq, Sunni and Shia, have a joint responsibility to denounce divisive and dangerous declarations by politicians. Although IS of course has its own ideologues who promote hatred, death and destruction on all (not exclusively against Shia), mainstream Sunni religious authorities have denounced IS, condemned their actions and decreed their “state” to be illegitimate. On the other hand, and with notable exceptions such as Ayatollah al-Sarkhi who stood against Maliki’s rampant sectarianism and was attacked with gunships, Ayatollah Sistani, whom the PMU owe their existence to, said nothing to denounce inflammatory speeches that led to the deaths of protesters. The message here is that if you openly defy an Iranian-backed politician such as Maliki, Shia religious authority or not, you will be targeted. In Iraq, as in many other places in the world, power has no sect or creed, and you will be silenced if you stand against power holders, all justified by, and in the name of, propagating the continuing vengeance for Hussein’s death.

    As Muslims observe Ashura, they should first ask themselves – would Hussein approve of all of this bloodshed in his name? Or would he turn towards God, ashen faced, seeking refuge from those who would abuse his memory by unleashing untold horrors in the name of avenging him? Hussein challenged the dominant power of his day because he believed it to be the right thing to do, and because he felt there were those who were oppressed and he had a responsibility to stand for them. He certainly did not commit any atrocities and decide to cut strips of meat from the bodies of his enemies, nor did he attack and set ablaze the neighbourhoods of those whom he disagreed with, as occurred to little international media fanfare in al-Adhamiya in Baghdad last May.

    If Hussein was alive today, he would have stood against the tyranny of the tyrants running rampant across the Middle East. He would have stood with the Syrian people against the Assad dynasty, with the persecuted Baluchis and Arabs in Iran, and with all of the oppressed around the world. I am sure the first thing he would say today to those who believe they are avenging him is, “Not in my name”.

    - Tallha Abdulrazaq is a researcher at the University of Exeter's Strategy & Security Institute, and winner of the Al Jazeera Young Researcher Award. He blogs at thewarjournal.co.uk and tweets from @thewarjournal

    The views expressed in this article belong to the author and do not necessarily reflect the editorial policy of Middle East Eye.

    Photo: An Iraqi Shia man performs during the reenactment of the Battle of Karbala as part of the Ashura commemorations on 4 November, 2014 in the capital Baghdad (AFP).
    - See more at: http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns....zevvGvr4.dpuf
    Originally posted by Firdousi
    Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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    Shias have twisted and dark love for Hazrat Imam Hussain and Hazrat Ali (R.A). The Shias went into extreme and with time they are more into worshiping Ali , Hussain and Imams, then properly practicing Islam. In their extremism, they call names to certain Sahaba.....

    On other extreme are Wahabis,

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    • #3
      Originally posted by History of Pashtuns View Post
      Shias have twisted and dark love for Hazrat Imam Hussain and Hazrat Ali (R.A). The Shias went into extreme and with time they are more into worshiping Ali , Hussain and Imams, then properly practicing Islam. In their extremism, they call names to certain Sahaba.....

      On other extreme are Wahabis,

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDEZyJOYpf8
      Explain what is extreme in the video you posted. Also please explain how you managed to watch the clip eventhough YouTube is banned in Pak.
      Originally posted by Firdousi
      Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
        Explain what is extreme in the video you posted. Also please explain how you managed to watch the clip eventhough YouTube is banned in Pak.
        Dont ask useless question, when you embedd the youtube video in the post of this forum, it doesnt appear at all here in Pakistan, not even its link. Thats why i asked for the title. As one can search it in google , which would show the youtube page in results. I might not be able to watch it directly but I would simply put that web address in a proxy website and able to watch it. That is post the full youtube link address.

        About your relevant question. Every thing is wrong with his views on Yazid maloon and Hazrat Imam Hussain R.A. My suspicions are right, its not a Shia propaganda that Wahabis consider Yazid lanati a rightful caliph, address him as hazrat and say R.A for him, they actually have these kind of views

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        • #5
          Originally posted by History of Pashtuns View Post
          Dont ask useless question, when you embedd the youtube video in the post of this forum, it doesnt appear at all here in Pakistan, not even its link. Thats why i asked for the title. As one can search it in google , which would show the youtube page in results. I might not be able to watch it directly but I would simply put that web address in a proxy website and able to watch it. That is post the full youtube link address.

          About your relevant question. Every thing is wrong with his views on Yazid maloon and Hazrat Imam Hussain R.A. My suspicions are right, its not a Shia propaganda that Wahabis consider Yazid lanati a rightful caliph, address him as hazrat and say R.A for him, they actually have these kind of views
          There are three different views among Sunnis regarding Yazeed Ibn Mu'awiya.

          But you wouldn't know that due to your impairment.
          Originally posted by Firdousi
          Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
            There are three different views among Sunnis regarding Yazeed Ibn Mu'awiya.

            But you wouldn't know that due to your impairment.
            May Allah's curse be upon the Khawarij

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            • #7
              Originally posted by History of Pashtuns View Post
              May Allah's curse be upon the Khawarij
              Amin
              Originally posted by Firdousi
              Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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              • #8
                I do not understood under what basis Shias claim a right to Hussein(ra) and Ali(ra). They were not Shia, and their supporters were not Shia. There were no Shias back then. It was a political struggle.

                I also do not understand why Shias question the intelligence and judgement of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)- that he did not know friend from enemy amongst his companians. This is the height of insult to the greatest man that ever lived on earth. That some Shias today claim to KNOW more than the Prophet(pbuh) .

                The fact is Khamenei (the global leader of Shias) has given his support to Assad, a tyrant who is killing Sunnis in Syria.

                Iranian troops and other Shias have gone to Syria to fight for Alawites- Alawites believe in Ali as a god. Even according to mainstream Shias, Alawites are heretics, but that did not stop the Ayatollah from giving his support to Assad.

                What does that say about the current state of Shiism? Is mainstream Shiism controlled by Iran, and has it now become an ideology to spread Persian influence?
                Last edited by Insight; 10-25-2015, 04:13 PM.
                "The past is not my concern. The future is no longer my concern either. One minute. One minute of everything at once. And anything before is nothing. Everything after nothing. Nothing in comparison to that one minute."

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                • #9
                  My verdict is this: Shiism is just a way for some to be different, nothing more and nothing less. They like to wear black and talk about Shiism, but they actually do not put to practice their claimed ideology. They like to beat themselves in unision and hold torches- they think it looks cool!!! It really is just that!! It is a globa theaterical display with the intent to impress but in reality its just theater for the absurd- like having a horse with no rider ride around the streets.

                  Fact is if Hussein(ra) was here today, he would be fighting against Assad, not on his side. Todays Shias have some fantasy that they are all related to each other (which makes no sense at all), and that they are part of a racial rather then a religious identity. Its all an act!
                  Last edited by Insight; 10-25-2015, 04:22 PM.
                  "The past is not my concern. The future is no longer my concern either. One minute. One minute of everything at once. And anything before is nothing. Everything after nothing. Nothing in comparison to that one minute."

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                  • #10
                    Shia killed Hussain and now they are beating themselves: http://www.pashtunforums.com/showthread.php?t=48196
                    Originally posted by Firdousi
                    Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                    • #11
                      Wrong Thread. Go to history Mr Arab!

                      But to answer to your question Hussain would be killed by one of your Wahaabii goons.

                      and if Ahmad Shah Baba or Mirwais Khan Hotak or Khushal Khan lived today, they would hang and eradicate parasites from their Pashtuns soil people like you for en example. Nokar-e arab.
                      To Paradise, with Pakhto, I will go.

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