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    Kurds, Arabs and Turkmen have suffered enough at the hands of dictators, militia and IS – they shouldn't be oppressing each other now



    Last week, Amnesty International published a scathing report about the Kurdish Democratic Union Party (PYD) committing war crimes against non-Kurdish Syrians in al-Hasaka and al-Raqqa governorates. The PYD, often seen as the Syrian offshoot of Turkey’s PKK terrorists, have had their dirty laundry aired after Amnesty exposed their forced displacement campaign against predominantly Arabs and Turkmens, likely in order to create an ethnically homogenous Kurdish-controlled region in areas of northern and north eastern Syria.

    This latest report is among a growing body of literature by human rights organisations, including Human Rights Watch, that expose how Kurdish nationalist groups of all flavours and from all geographies are committing crimes motivated by racist nationalist ideologies. Will the world take action like they did for the Yazidis? Not likely. It is simply much too inconvenient.

    Although the United States government has stated that it is looking into reports of Kurdish war crimes in Syria, there is every chance that this could all soon be swept under the rug. After all, America’s Kurdish allies in Iraq have repeatedly committed crimes against their Arab and Turkmen neighbours, and nothing has ever happened. Last winter, Kurdish Peshmerga and Asayish forces refused to allow Arabs displaced in the fighting against the forces of the Islamic State (IS) from returning to their homes, whilst at the same time allowing Kurds to resettle in those areas. This was reported in several areas, particularly Makhmur in northern Iraq.

    In January, and in full view of Peshmerga forces, Yazidi militias, themselves only recently victims of IS atrocities, proceeded to attack Iraqi Arab villages like Buhanaya, killing civilians, burning down homes and generally terrorising the populace. There were also separate reports that showed that these same Yazidi terrorists were abducting Iraqi Arab women in order to subject them to the same sexual slavery and mistreatment that Yazidi women were forced to endure when IS forces kidnapped them.

    Yazidis, who are a sub-category of the Kurdish people, are somehow immune to Western criticism and outrage. After all, it is inconvenient when those that the Western governments have painted almost as being an endangered species suddenly turn around and commit atrocities and war crimes like IS. The only difference between the two is that Yazidis are a minority who happen to be non-Arab and non-Muslim, trumping even Muslim Kurds, and therefore the kind of minority the West can really get behind.

    The Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG), which holds sway over large areas of northern Iraq, has denied any ethnic cleansing in Makhmur and other areas. But last May at the Al Jazeera 9th Annual Forum, I personally challenged Hemin Hawrami, head of foreign relations for Massoud Barzani’s Kurdish Democratic Party (KDP) about this issue, and he said that it would be a simple matter of arranging a visit to the areas in question to prove that the KDP’s story was true. My attempts to have this arranged have gone unanswered for almost half a year, and even international news agencies have reported on the sorry state of Iraqi Arab residents displaced by Kurdish militias.

    So what are the root causes behind these Kurdish ethnic cleansing campaigns? Simply put, it is racism, and not merely the more academically sterile phrase of “ethnic conflict”. Even Arabs who are lucky enough to have escaped from the sectarian bloodbaths in other parts of Iraq to KRG-controlled regions complain of outright racism. Muhammad (not his real name), an Arab from Mosul now living in Erbil, told me that he is frequently harassed by Kurdish security forces, particularly officers of the Asayish. “They threaten me with arrest and call me Arab terrorist **** coming to ruin ‘their’ Kurdistan,” Muhammad told me, adding: “Isn’t Erbil a part of Iraq? Am I not Iraqi? Several of my aunts and uncles married Kurds, so my cousins are Kurds…but the politicians see me as a demographic threat."

    Muhammad’s view that Kurdish politicians see Arabs as a demographic threat certainly rings true, otherwise there would be no reason to ethnically cleanse entire areas and communities of Arabs and Turkmens in Syria and Iraq. Of course, these racist sentiments are intentionally peddled by the political class in order to distract the Kurdish populace from threats to their own freedom, such as Massoud Barzani refusing to leave his office as President of the KRG. Kurdish journalists and TV stations have been shut down by KRG forces loyal to Barzani, opposition politicians barred from entering Erbil, and yet there is hardly an outrage from the international community.

    It is politically inconvenient for Western powers to put real pressure on their Kurdish allies into curtailing their violence against other Kurds, let alone Arabs or Turkmens, because it contradicts their narrative of a squeaky clean oppressed minority.

    The Kurds today are freer from state oppression against their identity and language in Syria, Iraq or Turkey - although, again, the international silence on Kurdish rights in Iran is deafening and quite telling. Indeed, the Kurds are now power holders and power players in some areas. Some Kurdish political factions in Syria, Iraq and beyond now feel that the “boot is on the other foot,” and are proceeding to enact a decades-long yearning for bloody vengeance.

    For some reason, they are exacting retribution on those who did not harm them, whilst hinting at making deals with their murderers such as the Assad regime in Syria. Moreover, one has to question the veracity of claims that the likes of Barzani are true leaders of the Kurdish people. After all, he fought side by side with Saddam Hussein against Jalal Talabani’s Patriotic Union of Kurdistan, himself backed by Iran. Now that Saddam is gone, both Iraqi Kurdish factions have been making a song and dance about his atrocities against the Kurds, and framing it within a wider anti-Arab discourse.

    If there was ever any need for further proof of the danger of nationalism and how it is used to manipulate the masses into supporting the murder of other human beings, it is the misplaced vengeance of some Kurds against non-Kurds as they ignore the despots who have been murdering them both for decades. Kurds, Arabs and Turkmen have suffered enough at the hands of dictators, militia leaders and IS. It's high time that they stop being the cannon fodder of wars they had never ignited.

    - Tallha Abdulrazaq is a researcher at the University of Exeter's Strategy & Security Institute, and winner of the Al Jazeera Young Researcher Award. He blogs at thewarjournal.co.uk and tweets from @thewarjournal
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    Originally posted by Firdousi
    Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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    No offense but i dont buy it. I dont know about the life style and extent of religiosity of Kurds but i have certain admiration and respect for their bravery and nationalism. They might not be that religious but they are Sunnis and are better than the two deviant groups i.e Shias and Khawarij/wahabis. Moreover they are bravely defending their territories from ISIS invaders, thats Jihad plain and simple.

    They might have committed some crimes but it cant be compared to the shar of Khwarij i.e DAESH.

    Wahabi ulema of Saudi have declared Wahabis of ISIS as Khawarij, thinking that the latter can become a threat to Saudi monarchy. Ideologically speaking , both salafis share exactly the same ideology and any one of them would repeat the actions of ISIS if put into action. On the very basis of fatwa of Saudis, i consider all wahabis to be neo-kharjis......perhaps more dangerous than shias as they can easily influence minds of Sunnis who form 90% of Muslim population .


    On Kurds, i want to share some history tid bits relevant to Pashtuns. When Ghilzais occupied Persia, they could not rely on hostile Shia population so they recruited large number of Kurds in their forces. Kurds supported them against Persians. In Afghan-Ottoman war, all the Kurd soldiers in the ottoman army deserted when Afghan ulemas appealed to them that Ottoman war against Sunni Afghans is unjustified. Azad Khan , a Ghiljay, in his struggle for obtaining throne of Persia, relied heavily on support of Kurds beside his Ghiljays and at one point sought refuge in Kurdistan. Subs0qeunt history didnt allow direct contact between pashtuns and Kurds but i feel they have some traits in common.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by History of Pashtuns View Post
      No offense but i dont buy it. I dont know about the life style and extent of religiosity of Kurds but i have certain admiration and respect for their bravery and nationalism. They might not be that religious but they are Sunnis and are better than the two deviant groups i.e Shias and Khawarij/wahabis. Moreover they are bravely defending their territories from ISIS invaders, thats Jihad plain and simple.

      They might have committed some crimes but it cant be compared to the shar of Khwarij i.e DAESH.

      Wahabi ulema of Saudi have declared Wahabis of ISIS as Khawarij, thinking that the latter can become a threat to Saudi monarchy. Ideologically speaking , both salafis share exactly the same ideology and any one of them would repeat the actions of ISIS if put into action. On the very basis of fatwa of Saudis, i consider all wahabis to be neo-kharjis......perhaps more dangerous than shias as they can easily influence minds of Sunnis who form 90% of Muslim population .


      On Kurds, i want to share some history tid bits relevant to Pashtuns. When Ghilzais occupied Persia, they could not rely on hostile Shia population so they recruited large number of Kurds in their forces. Kurds supported them against Persians. In Afghan-Ottoman war, all the Kurd soldiers in the ottoman army deserted when Afghan ulemas appealed to them that Ottoman war against Sunni Afghans is unjustified. Azad Khan , a Ghiljay, in his struggle for obtaining throne of Persia, relied heavily on support of Kurds beside his Ghiljays and at one point sought refuge in Kurdistan. Subs0qeunt history didnt allow direct contact between pashtuns and Kurds but i feel they have some traits in common.

      You are just posting irrelevant stuff. Fact is, the secular atheist PYD and similar groups have committed crimes. They are not being accused of crimes by ISIS, Shia or Saudis.

      It is irrelevant to know about Kurdish history here. these secular atheist militias do not represent Kurdish ethnicity. They are even targeting fellow Kurds who are against them.
      Originally posted by Firdousi
      Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
        You are just posting irrelevant stuff. Fact is, the secular atheist PYD and similar groups have committed crimes. They are not being accused of crimes by ISIS, Shia or Saudis.

        It is irrelevant to know about Kurdish history here. these secular atheist militias do not represent Kurdish ethnicity. They are even targeting fellow Kurds who are against them.
        I saw a documentary on vice where they were battling ISIS members and yelling "**** your God" in Arabic to them during gun battles. So I think you are right, they probably are atheists.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ANAcommander View Post
          I saw a documentary on vice where they were battling ISIS members and yelling "**** your God" in Arabic to them during gun battles. So I think you are right, they probably are atheists.
          These secular atheist thugs don't represent all Kurds. Some of my best friends are Kurdish Muslims. These nationalists want to control All of Kurdistan but they are constantly fighting fellow Kurds. In fact, one of the biggest obstacle for Kurdish independence is internal division.
          Originally posted by Firdousi
          Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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          • #6
            US-backed Kurdish forces 'committing war crimes against Syrian civilians'

            US-backed Kurdish forces 'committing war crimes against Syrian civilians'


            Originally posted by Firdousi
            Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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            • #7
              I care less about the deeper stratifications within Kurdish nation. Any Kurd, repelling the invasion of ISIS fanatics, deserves to be respected. Shamlawar, it is obvious that you have a soft corner for your ideological brothers, the ISIS. ISIS or Pro-ISIS have begin to despise Kurds the most due to brave resistance of the latter. In my opinion, Kurds, no matter how weak they are in observing religion, will remain confined to their own areas. Moreover they are not involved in fasad and choas on large scale like Neo-Kharjis. ISIS on the other hand, is danger to Islam. Not just ISIS, in my personal opinion, all Salafis are threat to Islam and have revived the memories of Khawarij, the first deviant movement in Islam.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by History of Pashtuns View Post
                I care less about the deeper stratifications within Kurdish nation. Any Kurd, repelling the invasion of ISIS fanatics, deserves to be respected. Shamlawar, it is obvious that you have a soft corner for your ideological brothers, the ISIS. ISIS or Pro-ISIS have begin to despise Kurds the most due to brave resistance of the latter. In my opinion, Kurds, no matter how weak they are in observing religion, will remain confined to their own areas. Moreover they are not involved in fasad and choas on large scale like Neo-Kharjis. ISIS on the other hand, is danger to Islam. Not just ISIS, in my personal opinion, all Salafis are threat to Islam and have revived the memories of Khawarij, the first deviant movement in Islam.
                None of the things you said so far deals with the topic: war crimes committed by Kurdish militias.

                It seems, you are unable to comment about this topic. Instead you are using the opportunity to repeat your diatribe against Salafis Wahhabis and what not.
                Originally posted by Firdousi
                Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                • #9
                  shamlawar you forgot ,you said people don't share candies in war pointing to Afghan taliban and their atrocities.
                  crimes will happen but one should see the lesser evil. they are still the lesser evil if they have committed crimes.
                  their fight is motivated by their nationalist ideology and they are fighting for liberation same like the baloch and their is nothing wrong with this. standing on ethnic lines against what you consider a threat to your freedom is much more natural and happened throughout the history throughout the world against forces of domination.
                  They are even targeting fellow Kurds who are against them.
                  what do you think how on earth their came a great empires, caliphate and states.
                  do you think everyone welcome them or they subdued people through force, killing all those those who stand against them?
                  if you want your movement reap a fruit you had to subdue those who stand against you and win over those who are neutral, otherwise it will be a passive movement like non violent movement of Ghaffar khan who will die a natural death.
                  the most innocent Afghan taliban are notorious for blowing all those clerics who opposed them.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by marwat View Post
                    shamlawar you forgot ,you said people don't share candies in war pointing to Afghan taliban and their atrocities.
                    crimes will happen but one should see the lesser evil. they are still the lesser evil if they have committed crimes.
                    their fight is motivated by their nationalist ideology and they are fighting for liberation same like the baloch and their is nothing wrong with this. standing on ethnic lines against what you consider a threat to your freedom is much more natural and happened throughout the history throughout the world against forces of domination.

                    what do you think how on earth their came a great empires, caliphate and states.
                    do you think everyone welcome them or they subdued people through force, killing all those those who stand against them?
                    if you want your movement reap a fruit you had to subdue those who stand against you and win over those who are neutral, otherwise it will be a passive movement like non violent movement of Ghaffar khan who will die a natural death.
                    the most innocent Afghan taliban are notorious for blowing all those clerics who opposed them.

                    When I said, during war people don't share candies, I didn't mean it is okay to kill people. You should have read more carefully.

                    The right of Kurds to defend themselves against oppression, be it Turkish, Syrian, ISIS or Iraqi oppression is not the issue here.

                    This thread was started with an article, which I am sure you have read.

                    The article along with other reports reveal how Kurdish militias are as fanatical and evil as their ISIS and Shiite counterparts in Syria.

                    If Arab Sunnis in Syria choose to join ISIS because they are sick and tired of Assad's oppression, that doesn't mean we should neglect crimes of ISIS.

                    If Kurds join PYD or YPG to defend themselves against ISIS and Assad, that doesn't mean we should neglect crimes of ISIS.

                    Self defense doesn't give people a warrant to go and oppress others. No matter who does it.
                    Originally posted by Firdousi
                    Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                      The article along with other reports reveal how Kurdish militias are as fanatical and evil as their ISIS and Shiite counterparts in Syria.

                      I
                      I disagree with you on this and my previous two posts on this thread were not irrelevant at all, it were about this disagreement.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by History of Pashtuns View Post
                        I disagree with you on this and my previous two posts on this thread were not irrelevant at all, it were about this disagreement.
                        You can't prove that crimes are not committed by Kurdish militias. I have different reports by different sources claiming they do commit crimes.

                        Let me sum this up:
                        • Kurdish rebels are backed and sponsored by US.
                        • Pro Western human right groups and journalists claim they commit war crimes

                        Here is what you can do:
                        • Give evidence, that they are not committing crimes
                        • Show why US would want to finance and sponsor and then defame militias through human right groups and media.


                        If you can't do the above, then there is nothing to talk about.
                        Originally posted by Firdousi
                        Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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