afg=pak?

[HalloIsBack]

afg=pak?pakistan is an artificial state but afghanistan too


afghanistan was created as buffer zone between russian and british


so your solution of pakistan as surivival of colonialism pakistan should disappear


the same with afghanistan, or not?

[randolph85]

The political boundaries of the modern state were influenced by foreign powers by annexation of lands in the north to the Russian empire and the east to the British, but the nation wasn't created because it was already there prior to the arrival of Russia and Britain at its borders. The name "Afghanistan" was also used to refer to the lands of Pashtun's hundreds of years prior. Borders were later molded so that Afg served as a buffer.

Pakistan on the other hand...

[tripledouble]

All countries are artificial, boundaries are manmade

regional boundary are also artificial

Afghanistan incorporate majority non-Pashtun land, came into being by creation of Azeri-Persian Nadir Shah Afshar, then under deal with England & Russia it got it's new boundary which benefit them occupying non Pakhtun land and genociding Hazaras & Kafiristanis and pashtoonifying north Afghanistan which was tajik/turki land

Afghan also try to colonize Gandhara & Indus valley area

[marwat]

Yes we don't believe in artificial border and states. it constantly changed in past and change will happen in future too. the fact remain the area from AMU and abasin is our forefather watan and belongs to us now.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

The political boundaries of the modern state were influenced by foreign powers by annexation of lands in the north to the Russian empire and the east to the British, but the nation wasn't created because it was already there prior to the arrival of Russia and Britain at its borders. The name "Afghanistan" was also used to refer to the lands of Pashtun's hundreds of years prior. Borders were later molded so that Afg served as a buffer.

Pakistan on the other hand...

Pakistan is not a country but ideology.You can call it a movement of survival.

It is not necessary to have Pakistani citizenship but just an adherent to the ideology of Pakistan makes you Pakistani.

The most important is that Pakistaniat is not limited to any ethnicity or religion.

Let say tomorrow if Netanyahu,putin or even modi start believing in Pakistaniat,they will become Pakistani.

So brother are you willing to join us?

[tilla_jogian]

Yes both were product of British empire. The one difference is that while Pakistan has done better (relatively) but afghanis are still living in jahalat since then. Afghanistan is country of savage pigs and only solution is to bomb them from time to time.

[tilla_jogian]

Pakistaniyat or Pakistanism simply means Urdu-ism. One of the high grade government servant told me , that in the training Academy at Lahore, he was asked to wear Sherwani of Urduspeakers instead of Pashtun's wasket that he was wearing. His insistence on keeping Wasket, led to the heated exchange of words with trainer.

Pakistan was supposed to be the new breeding ground for Hindi muslims of Delhi, U.P, Bihar etc but Punjabi peasants stole the show from Mirza Ghalibs and asserted their majority. Punjabis (called Paindos by Urduspeakers) promoted the Culture , literature and language of Urduspeakers but kept the dominance in politics and military on the basis of numbers. What you are mistaking as Pakistaniyat, is actually Urdu-ism whose most loyal and enthusiastic adherents and promoters are Punjabi peasants.

Urdu is national language of Pakistan and I have yet to meet any afghani who doesn't speak urdu. Most famous and distingushed poets in urdu are punjabis and not UP/biharis.

Peasant mean landless, not every punjabi is landless. This word is used for likes of your brathar afghani muhajirs who work in punjab fields.

[marwat]

Pakistan is not a country but ideology.You can call it a movement of survival.

It is not necessary to have Pakistani citizenship but just an adherent to the ideology of Pakistan makes you Pakistani.

The most important is that Pakistaniat is not limited to any ethnicity or religion.

Let say tomorrow if Netanyahu,putin or even modi start believing in Pakistaniat,they will become Pakistani.

So brother are you willing to join us?

ok, you are right, but i don't believe in pakistan ideology, would not pakistan **** off from my land?

[tilla_jogian]

ok, you are right, but i don't believe in pakistan ideology, would not pakistan **** off from my land?

Your land? You mean Pakistan? Since when did mahajirs had any claim on land they migrate to? :/

[randolph85]

Pakistan is not a country but ideology.You can call it a movement of survival.

It is not necessary to have Pakistani citizenship but just an adherent to the ideology of Pakistan makes you Pakistani.

The most important is that Pakistaniat is not limited to any ethnicity or religion.

Let say tomorrow if Netanyahu,putin or even modi start believing in Pakistaniat,they will become Pakistani.

So brother are you willing to join us?

What ideology of Pakistan is that?

The ideology of Pakistan was that the Hindu and Muslim population of Hindustan were intrinsically different and thus had to break apart. The idea of "Pakistan" does not or would not ever appeal to anyone who was never a Hindustani.

Shamlawar beautifully summed up why Pakistan is a kufr state. It is not Islamic and as you state it is not limited to any religion.

It would be like embracing Mexicaniat as far as I am concerned in terms of how alien it would be to any non Indian/Paki.

[tilla_jogian]

Peasant simply means "kisaan" in urdu. Mehnat-kash punjabi kisaan, thats what we hear

peasant mean landless like those afghani mahajirs, farmer mean kisaan. Hard to believe you are doctor, your english is terrible. Afghanis have yet to come out of middle ages, the best among you is kisaan and most are peasant working in other people lands.

[Afghanfootball]

Afghanistan is not artificial as it is the succesor to Khorasan and Ariana. As Smarty put it Pakistan was created out of no where by brits.

[Friends of Baloch]

Afghanistan is not artificial as it is the succesor to Khorasan and Ariana. As Smarty put it Pakistan was created out of no where by brits.

Correct, and here are those "Britishers" that invented this dirty napakistan.

1) Cyril Radcliffe, who invented the borders of what would become napakistan by drawing a line on a map that is still named after him.


2) Lord Louis Mountbatten, the 'god father' of napakistan. The man who gave the green light for napakistan to exist and chose the date and time which it would come into existence.


3) Lord Hastings Lionel Ismay, a British general and one of the architects of British India's "fartition" into napakistan and India.

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napakistan's entire existence is owed to these "Britishers". Without these "saheebs" there would be no napakistan and these pakis would still be carrying their Indian passports.