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  • #61
    Originally posted by tilla_jogian View Post
    Are you victim of ANA bacha bazi?
    are you victim of brits gang raping you liike they did to your fore fathers.

    isnt p akistan the shyt that came out of churchil's arse. That is the story, when churchil was taking a shyt and he looked at it, he came up with the idea of pakistan.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by khushal View Post
      His ideology was flawed. He allied himself with hindus that abandoned him and then he promoted peaceful resistance against the Brits and the PAk army in his home of KP while backing a violent man like Najib and the Soviet Army who killed 2 million Afghans.

      The man was a hypocrite.
      Not his ideology, but your mind is flawed you ignorant.

      Being representative of a smaller province of United India, he and his socio political movement was badly crushed by Britishers which compelled him and his companions to join hands with mainstream parties i.e ML or Congress. He first tried to ally his movement with Muslim League But Jinnah Poonja refused and Mr. Gandhi accepted his request to go side by side for the independence of India against the british Raaj. That was his political wisdom and need of hour.

      2ndly he didn't supported any violent movement in Afghanistan as well. He was against foreign intervention there and opposed the operation of CIA & ISI backed terrorists against the then Afghan Government.
      Na soz sho na saaz sho,
      Bas hasy jwand tamam sho

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Yousafzai Pakhtun View Post
        Not his ideology, but your mind is flawed you ignorant.

        Being representative of a smaller province of United India, he and his socio political movement was badly crushed by Britishers which compelled him and his companions to join hands with mainstream parties i.e ML or Congress. He first tried to ally his movement with Muslim League But Jinnah Poonja refused and Mr. Gandhi accepted his request to go side by side for the independence of India against the british Raaj. That was his political wisdom and need of hour.

        2ndly he didn't supported any violent movement in Afghanistan as well. He was against foreign intervention there and opposed the operation of CIA & ISI backed terrorists against the then Afghan Government.
        Why are you getting mad? Is the truth upsetting you.

        Ghandi still abandoned him at the end. Its what happenes when you ally with Passive Hindus.

        2nd: The CIA and the ISI did not drop bombs on poor villagers killing two million of them like the Soviets Army and Najib did. The so called "ISI and CIA backed terrorists" were nothing until the Soviets came in with their military might and civilian killing war planes that your hero Bach Khan supported. Not only that but his offsprings,the Awami sissys, today are supporting the indiscriminate bombing campaign of Waziristan and NATOs bombing campaign in Afghanistan empowering pedophiles commanders who abuse children right in front of them.
        Conversing the truth, lies and intelligence pertaining to the assessment of the Pashtun population across the Durrand line.


        Violence for him is a no no but violence for others is OK. The man was a failure because of his hypocrisy and he was used by the passive and submissive hindus for their own interests.
        Last edited by khushal; 09-23-2015, 01:17 AM.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by khushal View Post
          Why are you getting mad? Is the truth upsetting you.

          Ghandi still abandoned him at the end. Its what happenes when you ally with Passive Hindus.

          2nd: The CIA and the ISI did not drop bombs on poor villagers killing two million of them like the Soviets Army and Najib did. The so called "ISI and CIA backed terrorists" were nothing until the Soviets came in with their military might and civilian killing war planes that your hero Bach Khan supported. Not only that but his offsprings,the Awami sissys, today are supporting the indiscriminate bombing campaign of Waziristan and NATOs bombing campaign in Afghanistan empowering pedophiles commanders who abuse children right in front of them.
          Conversing the truth, lies and intelligence pertaining to the assessment of the Pashtun population across the Durrand line.


          Violence for him is a no no but violence for others is OK. The man was a failure because of his hypocrisy and he was used by the passive and submissive hindus for their own interests.
          Thats true Congress didn't manage to help him in his cause of Azad Pakhtunistan, thats because the fate/division of india was already decided by the Britishers there. What Bacha khan, Gandhi and there like minded people did was for the independence of India they were even against the partition. So dont blame Congress for that. They even tried their best for the cause of united india but at the end it were the britishers who would decide. It was no body's fault, probably Bacha khan(whom you think was a hypocrite) would have managed to make an Azad Pakhtunistan here if he hadn't remained firm on his philosophy of "Non-violence" because he has already defeated Muslim League in the province and 99% of the population of Pakhtunkhwa were just waiting for his one order but he didn't want to go against what he has preached his whole life.

          He in 1950s has said that he is expecting a war between USSR and USA and he feared that his nation(Pakhtuns) might not drag it to their land which will cause them enormous damage to their land. (At the end of the day idiots like you became part of the same war and the whole pakhtun nation is facing it even today and now you stand and say Bacha khan was a hypocrite, shame on you)
          Na soz sho na saaz sho,
          Bas hasy jwand tamam sho

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Yousafzai Pakhtun View Post
            Thats true Congress didn't manage to help him in his cause of Azad Pakhtunistan, thats because the fate/division of india was already decided by the Britishers there. What Bacha khan, Gandhi and there like minded people did was for the independence of India they were even against the partition. So dont blame Congress for that. They even tried their best for the cause of united india but at the end it were the britishers who would decide. It was no body's fault, probably Bacha khan(whom you think was a hypocrite) would have managed to make an Azad Pakhtunistan here if he hadn't remained firm on his philosophy of "Non-violence" because he has already defeated Muslim League in the province and 99% of the population of Pakhtunkhwa were just waiting for his one order but he didn't want to go against what he has preached his whole life.

            He in 1950s has said that he is expecting a war between USSR and USA and he feared that his nation(Pakhtuns) might not drag it to their land which will cause them enormous damage to their land. (At the end of the day idiots like you became part of the same war and the whole pakhtun nation is facing it even today and now you stand and say Bacha khan was a hypocrite, shame on you)
            You are a sad man living in delusions. Before a Pakhtunistan exists, the end of the world will occur. Pakistan, US, India, USSR, Pakhtunistan(lol). All of these countries do not really matter. They are just lines drawn on an atlas.

            If you are Muslim then you should appreciate the Punjabi poet Allama Iqbal.

            Chin o Arab hamaraa, hindostaan hamaara...

            Muslim hain hum; watan hai saara jahaan hamaara.

            At the end of the day this is how the world works. Nobody gives a ****. Nationalism is pretty much bull****. A human being can go and live wherever they want and follow the culture and religion they want.


            Why do you think these Afghans give zero **** about Afghan-Pak border and just come through and settle anywhere? Afghan nationalists will say that, no they only live in KPK, but the truth is Afghans come and live in Punjab and open businesses. Muslims go and live anywhere they feel like. Why do you think most Afghan-Pakistani people hate USA, but prefer to live there? The reason is people don't give a ****. The world is yours.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Yousafzai Pakhtun View Post
              Thats true Congress didn't manage to help him in his cause of Azad Pakhtunistan, thats because the fate/division of india was already decided by the Britishers there. What Bacha khan, Gandhi and there like minded people did was for the independence of India they were even against the partition. So dont blame Congress for that. They even tried their best for the cause of united india but at the end it were the britishers who would decide. It was no body's fault, probably Bacha khan(whom you think was a hypocrite) would have managed to make an Azad Pakhtunistan here if he hadn't remained firm on his philosophy of "Non-violence" because he has already defeated Muslim League in the province and 99% of the population of Pakhtunkhwa were just waiting for his one order but he didn't want to go against what he has preached his whole life.

              He in 1950s has said that he is expecting a war between USSR and USA and he feared that his nation(Pakhtuns) might not drag it to their land which will cause them enormous damage to their land. (At the end of the day idiots like you became part of the same war and the whole pakhtun nation is facing it even today and now you stand and say Bacha khan was a hypocrite, shame on you)
              He didn't stand firm in his non violence philosophy, he supported the Soviet invasion which violently killed 2 million Afghans.
              He was only for non violence in KP and pakistan but not in Afghanistan similar to Imran Khan and the rest of those paki sanctioned fake mullahs who preach that jihad is permissible in afghanistan but not in pakistan.

              Bacha Khan was a hypocrite and should be remembered as such.

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              • #67
                what does this mean:

                Chin o Arab hamaraa, hindostaan hamaara...

                Muslim hain hum; watan hai saara jahaan hamaara.

                some one translate please.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by khushal View Post
                  what does this mean:

                  Chin o Arab hamaraa, hindostaan hamaara...

                  Muslim hain hum; watan hai saara jahaan hamaara.

                  some one translate please.
                  Do you really not understand it?

                  I mean you should be able to at least understand the second part??

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by PakZameen View Post
                    You are a sad man living in delusions. Before a Pakhtunistan exists, the end of the world will occur. Pakistan, US, India, USSR, Pakhtunistan(lol). All of these countries do not really matter. They are just lines drawn on an atlas.

                    If you are Muslim then you should appreciate the Punjabi poet Allama Iqbal.




                    At the end of the day this is how the world works. Nobody gives a ****. Nationalism is pretty much bull****. A human being can go and live wherever they want and follow the culture and religion they want.


                    Why do you think these Afghans give zero **** about Afghan-Pak border and just come through and settle anywhere? Afghan nationalists will say that, no they only live in KPK, but the truth is Afghans come and live in Punjab and open businesses. Muslims go and live anywhere they feel like. Why do you think most Afghan-Pakistani people hate USA, but prefer to live there? The reason is people don't give a ****. The world is yours.
                    In Islam, there are no borders because justice is not limited by borders. The World is everyones and we go to panjab because panjab is rich and muslims dont hate the USA, just disagree with their foreign policy.
                    Last edited by khushal; 09-23-2015, 05:15 AM.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by PakZameen View Post
                      Do you really not understand it?

                      I mean you should be able to at least understand the second part??
                      Chin o Arab hamaraa, hindostaan hamaara...

                      Muslim hain hum; watan hai saara jahaan hamaara.

                      I dont know what hamaraa means in the first one
                      in the second one I dont know what hain means and hai saara and hamaara.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by khushal View Post
                        In Islam, there are no borders because justice is not limited by borders. The World is everyones and we go to panjab because panjab is rich and muslims dont hate the USA, they just disagree with their foreign policy.
                        We don't mind Afghans or Pashtuns in Punjab. They live in their communities and among us. They work for their guzara, and nobody has any complaints.

                        To be honest, many Afghans are very ignorant about Punjab. They think we are all once race and that Punjabi is an ethnicity, which is false. Punjab is a region, and we have so many different people living there. Even Punjabi people have different clans/tribes and accents. I am from Arain tribe, and we do not marry any other punjabi clan or pashtun baluch or sindhi. The reason is because of ignorance, but our people do not exist in India. Unlike Jatts, Gujjars, and Rajputs, there are no Arain people in India. We are 100% sunni Muslim.

                        So when Afghans tell me that all of you Punjabis are hindus ect, it makes me laugh, because there is not one person from my tribe Arain that is not a Muslim, let alone lives in India.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by khushal View Post
                          Chin o Arab hamaraa, hindostaan hamaara...

                          Muslim hain hum; watan hai saara jahaan hamaara.

                          I dont know what hamaraa means in the first one
                          in the second one I dont know what hain means and hai saara and hamaara.

                          Basically it means.

                          China and Arab lands belong to us, Hindostan belongs to us,

                          We are Musalmaan, our country is the entire world which belongs to us.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by PakZameen View Post
                            We don't mind Afghans or Pashtuns in Punjab. They live in their communities and among us. They work for their guzara, and nobody has any complaints.

                            To be honest, many Afghans are very ignorant about Punjab. They think we are all once race and that Punjabi is an ethnicity, which is false. Punjab is a region, and we have so many different people living there. Even Punjabi people have different clans/tribes and accents. I am from Arain tribe, and we do not marry any other punjabi clan or pashtun baluch or sindhi. The reason is because of ignorance, but our people do not exist in India. Unlike Jatts, Gujjars, and Rajputs, there are no Arain people in India. We are 100% sunni Muslim.

                            So when Afghans tell me that all of you Punjabis are hindus ect, it makes me laugh, because there is not one person from my tribe Arain that is not a Muslim, let alone lives in India.
                            We call you former Hindu. And Pakis are Indian by race. You know the diffrence between a Hindu (the relligion) and Indian (the race).

                            So you are the second you are Indian muslim. Its so stupid when pakis call Indian peopel ugly and stupid when they themselfs are the same people just with a diffrent relligion.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by PakZameen View Post
                              You were talking about giving. We took land from British Raj/India and carved out a state for ourselves, whereas Afghans gave land and their people to Brits for money.

                              Something to think about?
                              You took nothing. Brits created you to weaken the region and start instability. And you pakis do the job quite well. With almost every conflict in our region Pakis are the ones involved in and are fueling it with your insurgency and dirty politics.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Khostai View Post
                                You took nothing. Brits created you to weaken the region and start instability. And you pakis do the job quite well. With almost every conflict in our region Pakis are the ones involved in and are fueling it with your insurgency and dirty politics.
                                BS,Stop reading from Indian sources.

                                Pakistan was created by Allah and Allah is responsible for Pakistan Protection.

                                Pakistan was created to bring balance to the world and work for the greater good of Islam.
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