How to solve the Indo-Pak hostility

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

Dear friends,

For the last four decades, Afghanistan suffered from geopolitical games played by our neighbors at our expense. By saying that, I am not absolving Afghans of any blame in what has occured in our country.

While there are numerous internal problems which we need to address urgently, there are less urgent, but equally important matters in need of our attention.

One of the main factors of the current unrest, is the role of our two neighbors, India and Pakistan.

Afghan government is divided into different factions who all have their own respective foreign backers. Some groups are backed by India, while others are backed by Pakistan.

The armed opposition to the current regime is equally divided into different factions. Some members of the Taliban are loyal to Pakistan and others feel compelled to act in accordance with Pakistan's interests. Other members of the Taliban oppose the role of Pakistan within their organization, which is why, the group is going through an internal crisis at the moment.

The sole reason why both, Pakistan and India are involved in Afghanistan is their decades long hostility. The two have spent the last 70 years indoctrinating their people through education and mass media to distrust and hate each other.

This unhealthy emotional relationship between the two countries is the reason why citizens of both countries cannot imagine themsleves living in peace and coexisting as two nations in the same region.

Many Indians and Pakistanis wish to see their neighbors disappearing from the face of the earth. This is why both countries have little to no trouble finding will men and women to conduct subversive operations against one another.

It is no secret the Kashmiri rebels are nurtured by the Pakistanis and the Baloch marxist seperatist are supported by India.

While they may be involved in subversive activities in each others backyard, they are also fighting a proxy war in Afghanistan. Both sides have total disregard for Afghan lives and are willing to support any side at any cost to weaken the opponents strategic interests in Afghanistan.


Solution

In order to take the burden off the soulders of Afghans, we need to think about solving the problem of Indo-Pak. If both countries resolve their hostilities, then, maybe, both can assist Afghanistan in regaining a level of stability and internal peace.

For this purpose, I have opened this thread, where I will share my views and my solutions for the problem.

Feel free to comment on anything I have posted, and please don't hasitate to share your own thoughts with the rest.

[Friends of Baloch]

The problem is, has been and always will be the artificial British invented state of napakistan. A state with no logic or purpose that was invented only to serve the interests of Western imperialists and a final British slap in the face to the Indians that had expelled the once mighty British empire from their country by largely non violent protest. Did anybody ever believe that the 'mighty' "Britishers" would "quit India" while leaving that country intact after the way they were forced out by "half naked" (said Churchill of Gandhi) Indians going on long marches of disobeidence and hunger strike?

The creation of pakistan was a British middle finger to both India and Afghanistan.

In 1842 Britain suffered its most devasting defeat outside of Europe in Afghanistan and they never got over this. This is why they went to war against Afghans a further two times and blocked any Afghan reintigration of Afghan lands occupied within British India after withdrawing from their colonies.

This history and purpose of why this napakistan was created in the first place cannot be separated from the contemporary conflicts of today.

napakistan "two nation" theory is a confused ideology built on segregation, contradictions, conflict and bogus reading and fabrications of history and reality. As such napakistan will always live in this state both internally and with others and why typical pakis always exhibit the confused and ignorant behaviour of their bigoted founding ideology.

A so called 'Islamic' state drawn up on a map by a British infidel called Radlciff and the date of its creation decided by another infidel "Britisher" Mountbatten, what a ****ing joke! "Muslim" homeland? These pakis did not even have any say in what their borders would be not even what hour their stinking country would become 'official'.

According to its leading 'brown sahib' campaigners like skinny ghoulish looking a**hole Jinnah napakistan was supposed to be the homeland for Indian Muslims yet they couldnt event get all Muslim majority areas of India and suceeded only in dviding the Indian Muslim and occupying the lands of Baluch and Afghans as substitute.

napakistan can not have peace with anyone until it is at peace with itself but considering the country is entirely artificial and corrupted to the core they will always be a burden and parasitical annoyance to others.

[randolph85]

This nearly 70 year Hindu civil war has been a nightmare for the region. It is unfortunate that it is the Muslim's who have suffered the worst.

Even if they continue their civil war, they only need to look at the current situation and past history to see that proxy wars have not advanced either sides agenda.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

Neither Pakistan nor India want the Kashmir dispute to solve,it is in the interest of both countries to have this conflict in progress so that they can fool the world by military upgradation under the disguise of threat from each other.

though this conflict of kashmir has helped Pakistan far more than india.

[Orakzai]

Neither Pakistan nor India want the Kashmir dispute to solve,it is in the interest of both countries to have this conflict in progress so that they can fool the world by military upgradation under the disguise of threat from each other.

though this conflict of kashmir has helped Pakistan far more than india.

Pakistanis have tried to settle the Kashmir crisis numerous times. Musharraf once even offered completely abandoning Pakistan's claims over Indian Kashmir.
On another note, the Kashmir Crisis is being pursued by Pakistan because we need the water. We can't have an enemy like India have control over our water.

[ComradePashtun]

Shamlawargholana,

The long years of abusing those bags of skung has done your brains some serious damage. Had it not been for all those skung there would still have been some hope that you would have closed off by almost a decade to reach this conclusion what the Talibs are: mere proxies.

Lets hope for other rabid extremists here.

If you are not naive and know Talibs well, if you still think that India and Pakistan reaching a settlement will only ought to liberate Talibs from Pakis then that explains the extent of their enslavement. This is why I have always hated the **** bags. But I have good reasons that Pakis through their Talib proxy will not succeed in their desires. I tell you a good news; they are faced with a real strategic quandary whether to discard you or continue to abuse you - both of which have a price-tag. The price of the early should be less so you have some hope.

[Friends of Baloch]

the Kashmir Crisis is being pursued by Pakistan because we need the water. We can't have an enemy like India have control over our water.

Typical munafiq pakis. Raise Kashmir globally at the United Nations as a case of occupation and with Muslim countries as a case of oppression against Muslims. But real agenda is to grab land for exploitation of resources for benefit of Bundjab and to hell with whatever people live there Muslim or not.

Baloch and Pashtuns know this deceptive mentality of pakis very well.

But at least there is one paki here who now finally admits it!

[Orakzai]

Typical munafiq pakis. Raise Kashmir globally at the United Nations as a case of occupation and with Muslim countries as a case of oppression against Muslims. But real agenda is to grab land for exploitation of resources for benefit of Bundjab and to hell with whatever people live there Muslim or not.

Baloch and Pashtuns know this deceptive mentality of pakis very well.

But at least there is one paki here who now finally admits it!

Pssht. Geopolitics is about interests, not emotions, kiddo.

[randolph85]

Pssht. Geopolitics is about interests, not emotions, kiddo.

Which is why Pakistan can never pull the Muslim card in its civil war with Hindu India. It's why Paki nationalists can stop pretending they are Muslim and concede that their war with big bro India is about land and resources alone.

Orakzai has the good sense to admit to such, when will the rest of you follow suit?

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

Pakistanis have tried to settle the Kashmir crisis numerous times. Musharraf once even offered completely abandoning Pakistan's claims over Indian Kashmir.
On another note, the Kashmir Crisis is being pursued by Pakistan because we need the water. We can't have an enemy like India have control over our water.

I have said it on numerous occasion,its time we call indian so called conventional superiority bluff

Engage india from time to time in small battles like kargil,let them know that we are suicidal about kashmir and infact even declare indian Punjab and Gujarat as disputed territory.Increase border skirmishes with them and target only their soldiers.

[Orakzai]

Which is why Pakistan can never pull the Muslim card in its civil war with Hindu India. It's why Paki nationalists can stop pretending they are Muslim and concede that their war with big bro India is about land and resources alone.

Orakzai has the good sense to admit to such, when will the rest of you follow suit?

Those statements are for public consumption. A lot of chumps out there, if you know what I mean. As an Afghan, you should know that. Your leaders spit out verses from the Quran while touching little boys and chopping off the breasts of women.

I mean I recall Afghan social media erupting with praises after this former-Jihadi involved with Al Qaeda declared war against Taliban, at the death anniversary of Massoud (Oh the irony!)

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

One of the main reasons why Pakistanis and Indians hate each other is because they are told to believe that they are different because they have different religions.

Religion is often used as means to motivate the people to support the meaningless and futile hostility.

In order to solve this issue, I will try to bring both nations closer to each other by showing them how similar they are to one another.


Below are images of worshipping Pakistanis. They are busy worshipping the dead and the living similar to Hindu's who worship idols in temples and their guru's who are said to have attained divinity.

[Talal]

Afghanistan's problems are internal if not Pakistan India someone else will jump in to exploit the internal weaknesses. Iran/KSA Russians/Yanks take your pick

[Friends of Baloch]

One of the main reasons why Pakistanis and Indians hate each other is because they are told to believe that they are different because they have different religions.

Religion is often used as means to motivate the people to support the meaningless and futile hostility.

In order to solve this issue, I will try to bring both nations closer to each other by showing them how similar they are to one another.


Below are images of worshipping Pakistanis. They are busy worshipping the dead and the living similar to Hindu's who worship idols in temples and their guru's who are said to have attained divinity.

See below video. At 9:00 mins the old paki dude from Lahore pretty much sums up why Indians and Pakis are enemies, it all goes back to the fact that pakis are converted low caste Hindus whom the upper caste Hindus still treated as "untouchables" even after these Dalits had semi-converted out of Hinduism and tried to become Muslim.

See for yourself right from the horses mouth, he admits it at 9:00 mins that before the "fartition" of the Bundjab the Hindus still treated the semi-converted untouchables (now known as pakis) as Hindu "untouchables"! This is because Hindus believe that they are born into "castes" so a "low caste" will always be seen as "low caste" in Indo-Paki society even if they change their religion.

The rest of the animosity goes back to British divide and rule of India pitting Dravidian against Dravidian on basis of religion.

Stinking pakis are deeply embarrassed and ashamed of being the converted untouchables so they try to get even with their Indian elders by denying their Hindu low caste heritage and claim foreign Muslim origin like Mughal all the while still living like Hindu low castes and following their native Hindu culture and tradition and looking nothing like Mughals or having any connection to these people.

The paki dalit nation wants to settle scores with high castes of India this is understandable because of thousands years of humiliation first by Brahmans then by foreign Muslim ruler then by "Britishers". But stinking garlic chewing pakis claiming to be Islamic and racially non-Indian/Dravidian is an unnacceptable lie and is as ridiculous as their feet kissing, ding dong dancing, flower petal throwing "sufi saints".

pakis are disgusting parasites. No wonder even their fellow Hindu didnt want to share same water tap with them when they all lived happily together in undivided Bundjab.

[ManSindhiAhyan]

We exist, We will continue to exist and will be eternally grateful to Allah almighty for the strength that HE has favored us with.

We carry the torch of Bin Qasim, of Ghaznavi, of Muhammad Ghori, of Aibak, of Babur and of Aurangazeb. No other country was fit to wield that torch besides us.