The Muslim Brotherhood's social outreach after the Egyptian coup

[Khostai]

Lol undermining the state? Supporters vote them into power, non elected military overthrows gov't, supporters protest and are massacred, imprisoned and oppressed. Yet they are undermining the state? Unless the state is the non elected military and even then where is the undermining? Because they didn't clear the streets? Even the MB government didn't kill their protesters.

And idiots like you act like its Islam or Arab culture that drive these people to violence while you cheer their massacres and wonder why they hate democracy.

They won with just 51% and they made laws and restriction without thinking about the the other half of the country. And since when do you all sudenly belive in democracy, was it not all evil western plot to devide muslims? LOL

MB deserves what was coming to them. During their rule Copths and other minoroties were daily asulted, the situation got worser by the day. They did evrything to keep the protesters quite.

[Khostai]

My friend, You are arguing with a mental retard that actually accepts, in totality, the Western re-telling of both WWII era and colonial era history.

These sorts of people have some secondary gain involved. They have either family members or some other folks who are benefiting.

As you know it was the same deal with the current conflict. The irony is that these folks call "Islamists" (a term which encompasses anyone who pretty much is against the occupation of Afghanistan) hypocrites, yet the majority of them were using all sorts of made up lies and excuses to run to the West and have benefited monetarily from the war. Not a one of them dared step foot in post Russia war Afghanistan to "help" the motherland. They sure do "help" themselves though, especially in well protected neighborhoods like Wazir Akbar etc.

The reality is obvious. The fall of Morsi began when the military generals and the State Dept began advising the Mubarak era court to halt the progression of the parliament:



What the tree hugger pro gay retards like Wael Ghoneim and Baradei did not see was that a military backed power coup against Morsi would not "save" democracy." And now, Ghoneim is whining like some b-itch as is Baradei, claiming they left Egypt because they refused to get the blood on their hands when the military mowed down the people.

This flat head retard wastes his time spiking his hair, wearing tight pants, and smoking doobies and decided he needs to somehow justify it here.

https://theintercept.com/2015/08/03/...youtube-video/

Glenn Greenwald wrote an amazing article regarding the French, British, and American arming of the Sisi regime:



Don't worry too much about these pieces of trash and gutter filth that float around like fat laced stool here. No need to convince them of anything. Muslims don't need weak personalities and jack-as-ses like these who bend over because of secondary gain but pertend that they are somehow "newley enlightened."

Wow somebody needs to chill. I hope your menstruation cramps will stop and you will finaly come back to normal.

[Brown Skinned Savage]

They won with just 51% and they made laws and restriction without thinking about the the other half of the country. And since when do you all sudenly belive in democracy, was it not all evil western plot to devide muslims? LOL

MB deserves what was coming to them. During their rule Copths and other minoroties were daily asulted, the situation got worser by the day. They did evrything to keep the protesters quite.

It doesn't matter if he believes in democracy or not; what matters is that you Tout Secular Institutions and yet support them contradicting their own so called "Progressive" standards to gain power. It just shows that current secular model is broken and can't be trusted.

oh and now you're some patron Saint of the Egyptian Copts? That's rich; because Copts are being attacked very often in Egypt under Al-Sissi's rule. Looks like secularism hasn't rescued the Copts.

[randolph85]

They won with just 51% and they made laws and restriction without thinking about the the other half of the country. And since when do you all sudenly belive in democracy, was it not all evil western plot to devide muslims? LOL

MB deserves what was coming to them. During their rule Copths and other minoroties were daily asulted, the situation got worser by the day. They did evrything to keep the protesters quite.

So winning by the majority is not good enough anymore? or do they need 99.9% Saddam election numbers now? I don't think you understand how the electoral process or democracy in general works, when you win by popular vote you have no legal or moral obligation to give power to the losers.

I believe in an Islamic democracy where Shariah is maintained but the upholders of Shariah are elected, its not a difficult concept to grasp unless you are a complete idiot, which time and time again you have proven to be.

As for your claim of minority assaults, where is your proof? How can the MB assault anyone when the security forces were never loyal to their elected government? The security forces didn't even defend the party offices of the MB from being attacked, let alone randomly attack minorities on their behalf. Also, how did they keep protesters quiet? According to the tapes released, the military establishment paid "youth groups" to protest in the streets, if the MB wanted bloodshed then they would of rallied their supporters to fight these people but that never happened. How many protesters of the MB were killed and imprisoned vs protesters of the coup govt?

I don't know if you have some chronic condition which gets worse month by month but you started out as an idiot and you have degenerated into a full blown dumbass. Its time to go ahead and make an appointment with your doctor.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

They won with just 51% and they made laws and restriction without thinking about the the other half of the country. And since when do you all sudenly belive in democracy, was it not all evil western plot to devide muslims? LOL

MB deserves what was coming to them. During their rule Copths and other minoroties were daily asulted, the situation got worser by the day. They did evrything to keep the protesters quite.

Shouldn't use God's name in vain, but God dam-n you are stupid.

Idiot, not only did he win the election, but the PARLIAMENTARY elections were also won on clear majorities in the phases of parliamentary elections, by the religious parties:

The Muslim Brotherhood's Freedom and Justice Partytopped winners with 37% of the nearly 10 million valid ballots cast for party lists in the first of three electoral rounds for the Egyptian parliament.
The Brotherhood, a movement that seeks to expand Islamic law in many countries in the Middle East, prevailed in an election that included voters in Cairo and Alexandria, cities where liberal parties had hoped to exhibit their greatest strength.
Also winning big was the Nour Party, which took 24% of the vote. The party, dominated by the ultraconservative Salafis, did not exist until a few months ago. It seeks to impose strict Islamic law similar to Saudi Arabia in which women must be veiled and alcohol banned.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/...ons/51641978/1

This carried heavily into phases 2 and 3 of the parliamentary elections which then the State Dept (implicitly with funding to Egypt), the Army, and the Courts moved to dissolve parliament.

So now in your flat head lobotomized version of democracy, they have to pass laws that allow you to

1) keep working your red light district job?
2) lets you and your dad get drunk together over malt liquor?
3) designing porno sites for yourself?

Just because you think thats their obligation?

In the US are they obligated to pass immigration reform? Heck no. Media pressure, money, voters etc will determine that - it cannot be done by force.

What it boils down to is that you want to waste your time, do licentious idiotic stuff, and you want the state to force everyone to acquire your red light district services...

So basically all you want is some secular dictatorship because it lets you spread your venereal diseases and alcoholism far and wide.

Thats pretty much what your evidence standard boils down to.

Guess what? Thats not how democracy, even Western democracy works.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

So winning by the majority is not good enough anymore? or do they need 99.9% Saddam election numbers now? I don't think you understand how the electoral process or democracy in general works, when you win by popular vote you have no legal or moral obligation to give power to the losers.

I believe in an Islamic democracy where Shariah is maintained but the upholders of Shariah are elected, its not a difficult concept to grasp unless you are a complete idiot, which time and time again you have proven to be.

As for your claim of minority assaults, where is your proof? How can the MB assault anyone when the security forces were never loyal to their elected government? The security forces didn't even defend the party offices of the MB from being attacked, let alone randomly attack minorities on their behalf. Also, how did they keep protesters quiet? According to the tapes released, the military establishment paid "youth groups" to protest in the streets, if the MB wanted bloodshed then they would of rallied their supporters to fight these people but that never happened. How many protesters of the MB were killed and imprisoned vs protesters of the coup govt?

I don't know if you have some chronic condition which gets worse month by month but you started out as an idiot and you have degenerated into a full blown dumbass. Its time to go ahead and make an appointment with your doctor.

It boils down to the fact that he if he walked around with his tight pants and spikey disco hair saying his irreverent garbage in any village in Afghanistan they would scalp him and then tie him under a donkey. They did that to his uncles when the Reds lost and now he's just trying to justify his own behavior. His arguments have minimal to no merit whatsoever.

Read these guys arguments. Their responses are "the religionists did it to teh secularists first" BS. Thats the most idiotic ahistorical argument I ever heard. They hearken back to Amanullah with their conspiracy theories forgetting that the fool tried to make Shinwaris wear top hats or to the bande khana were the options. If he was idiotic enough to spark that sort of fire, then he was obviously the instigator.

Dont waste your breath on these pieces of sh-it. They could care less about historical fact, evidence basis, human sociology proven patterns of behavior and responses to invasion, etc they are just bent upon validating their personal lives here.

[Khostai]

It doesn't matter if he believes in democracy or not; what matters is that you Tout Secular Institutions and yet support them contradicting their own so called "Progressive" standards to gain power. It just shows that current secular model is broken and can't be trusted.

oh and now you're some patron Saint of the Egyptian Copts? That's rich; because Copts are being attacked very often in Egypt under Al-Sissi's rule. Looks like secularism hasn't rescued the Copts.

I do not support Sisi, but I am against MB and know how twisted and manipulative they are, so to have at least one evil less is fine by me. And again Egypt is not a secular state, when will your bruger brain understand this?