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  • #16
    Every day Baloch are attacking, burning, shooting, bombing the symbols and targets of the napak occupiers. These pakis have no idea what is happening today in napak occupied Balochistan all they know is fictional stories they read from fabricated paki media or just come onto the internet and make up stories themselves like typical gypsies who cheat themselves more than they ever can cheat others, lol.

    Stinking pakis. What a nation of ugly losers and rejects of the Hindus.


    “The windows of opportunities for peace were squandered through arrogance”

    Ather Naqvi August 23, 2015 7 Comments

    Analyst Mir Mohammad Ali Talpur talks about the state of insurgency in Balochistan and the government’s plans for peace

    The News on Sunday: What do you make of the government claims that hundreds of Baloch insurgents have surrendered arms on August 14? There were conflicting reports about the killing of Dr Allah Nazar Baloch. What is the state of insurgency like in Balochistan today?

    Mir Mohammad Ali Talpur: The government has always claimed that there are only a handful of misguided Baloch who resist progress at the behest of foreign hands. But since June, going by press reports, those surrendering number at least 800 so then why are the attacks still going on? The latest charade was on August 17, claiming that right hand men of Brahamdagh along with 23 others surrendered. These are ‘rent a crowd surrenders’, quite pointless.
    The reports on Dr Allah Nazar Baloch simply indicate that away from the public eye there is a continued massive army operation in Awaran and he is being hunted because he symbolises the Baloch resistance. He is considered an obstacle to the CPEC but the government doesn’t realise that fish survive in the sea and the people of Balochistan are the sea for those who oppose the exploitation of resources and land grab under the flimsy garb of development.
    The insurgency in Balochistan is definitely active and worrying enough for the government — apart from the forces already there including the Quetta cantonment and numerous naval bases — to announce that it would establish a Special Security Division (SSD) consisting of nine battalions of the army and six battalions of the civilian forces, and that it may extend Operation Zarb-e-Azb to Balochistan to protect Chinese personnel. The continued operation in Awaran speaks volumes about the Balochistan situation.

    TNS: Last week Balochistan’s senior parliamentary leader, Nawab Sanaullah Zehri, met the self-exiled Baloch leader, Khan of Kalat Agha Suleman Dawood Ahmedzai in London to urge him to come back and play his role in Balochistan. Do you think he can play any role in the near future?

    MMAT: The important question here is as Stalin asked, “How many divisions does the Pope have?” The Khan of Kalat has no divisions and is no Pope either. He no longer enjoys the influence that his elders did so his return will not change the insurgency situation in Balochistan though he too may arrange the lucrative rent a crowd surrenders to prove that his return has triggered a change.

    TNS: How does the provincial government of Dr Malik plan to deal with the situation? How is it different from Prime Minister’s Pur Amn Balochistan programme or from PPP’s Aghaz-e-Huqooq-e-Balochistan Package?

    MMAT: Dr. Malik’s provincial government has absolutely no plan to deal with the situation. It takes orders from Rawalpindi and Islamabad for general (pun intended) policy and the day to day government is subject to their wishes. Moreover Dr. Malik with his total 4000 votes election win doesn’t represent the Baloch people.
    The PPP’s Aghaz-e-Huqooq-e-Balochistan Package was an absolute failure; it may have benefited some figures but not the people there. In February 2013, a 10-member special cabinet committee said that desired results were not achieved despite unprecedented allocation of funds.
    The Pur Amn Balochistan programme of the two Shareefs isn’t a development programme but is a ‘pacification’ one, based solely on brute force to ensure security for the Chinese working on CPEC. It is in pursuance of this pacification plan that SSD formation became necessary in spite of the 50,000 plus FC already present there.

    TNS: Some analysts think that the government should ideally open the door for negotiations with the estranged Baloch if it is serious about the CPEC and even the Iran Pakistan gas pipeline. Do you agree with this and is there still scope for negotiations?

    MMAT: There were windows of opportunities for peace in the past but were squandered through arrogance and ignorance; the best among them was the 1972-73 Ataullah Mengal government. In September 2008, the Baloch militant groups unilaterally observed ceasefire but there was no response and in January 2009 they ended the ceasefire.
    The people and the groups fighting no longer trust the government because of the frequent operations and continuing policy of systematic enforced disappearances. The trust deficit is too huge and moreover the establishment is totally intransigent because it believes, as it did in East Pakistan, that they are powerful enough to crush peoples’ aspirations in Balochistan.

    TNS: What about the freedom for the media in that province?

    MMAT: A workshop on ‘Media and Civil Society in Balochistan’ in Quetta in July 2012 disclosed that media there wasn’t free and journalists on professional duty often faced harassment and 22 journalists had been killed there in four years.
    In February 2014, the Reporters Without Borders’ annual report said that of the seven reporters killed in Pakistan in 2013, four were from Balochistan. Last August Irshad Mastoi and trainee reporter Abdul Rasul were killed and like all previous killings these remain unsolved. A total of 32 journalists have been killed there.
    In 2009, the FC laid siege to three newspaper offices in Quetta — Daily Asaap, Azadi and Balochistan Express. The FC personnel posted outside Asaap’s offices eventually forced it to stop publication.
    Discussing Balochistan is not tolerated elsewhere too; a seminar “Unsilencing Balochistan” in LUMS where Mama Qadeer Baloch, Farzana Majeed and myself were to speak was arbitrarily cancelled by the intelligence agencies. Journalists and columnists outside Balochistan writing about Balochistan face pressures so Balochistan conditions can well be imagined. PTA blocks all Baloch websites while sectarian ones flourish.

    TNS: What do you make of the government claims of other countries’ interference in the affairs of Balochistan?

    MMAT: Since March 27, 1948, when Balochistan was forcibly annexed to Pakistan, the government has been imputing that there is foreign involvement. The intensity of these allegations is related to the insecurity that the establishment feels; recently there has been an orchestrated effort to blame foreign powers for all that is wrong in Balochistan, with special emphasis on RAW.
    The insurgency and struggle in Balochistan is indigenous; there were no Indian Consulates in Kandahar when the Khan of Kalat Mehrab Khan fought the British on November 13, 1839 and when Marris defeated them at Sarat Aaf and Nafusk in 1840.
    This government feels that by harping on this bogey of foreign hand they will be able to alienate all those who would feel sympathy towards the Baloch struggle. More importantly, this also provides them with justification for the unparalleled brutality that we witness in Balochistan in the form of missing persons and the abominable ‘kill and dump’ policy.

    TNS: What do you suggest should be the future course of action for the government to bring peace and political stability to the province?

    MMAT: With an establishment that has use of brute force as the cornerstone of its permanent policy towards dissent as one has seen in Balochistan since 1948 and saw in East Pakistan in 1971, one cannot expect it to heed suggestions for peace. It cannot be expected to respect the reservations that Baloch have because its policy is (mis)guided by the view that all Baloch who talk about their rights are foreign funded. I will not waste my time suggesting measures which will never even be considered, leave alone implemented.
    Last edited by Friends of Baloch; 08-31-2015, 05:56 PM.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
      I'm going to have to agree. Baloch independence movement is a dying dream and only a few tribes want independence while the remaining rest are happy with Pakistan. The Sardars are too busy bloating for attention that they are willing to sell out and most of the the separatist leaders live outside of Pakistan like Hyrbairr Baloch who lives in London.

      I also think that the fact they are migrating to many different countries (like the gulf) that their populations for a independence movement is dropping and are notable for settling with other populations.
      This is the lie that napak army tells to the napak media which in turn repeats the lie to gullible paki population. Baloch society is not 100% tribal just like Pashtun society is not 100% tribal anymore. There has been disharmony among different Baloch freedom fighters in the past few years but the fight for independence is still in full swing with attacks on the paki occupiers taking place all over Balochistan daily.

      Just a few months ago a freelance reporter went inside Balochistan and interviewed Dr Allah Nazar of Baloch Liberation Front and also a field commander of Balochistan Liberation Army pictured below.



      Last edited by Friends of Baloch; 08-31-2015, 06:44 PM.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Friends of Baloch View Post
        This is the lie that napak army tells to the napak media which in turn repeats the lie to gullible paki population. Baloch society is not 100% tribal just like Pashtun society is not 100% tribal anymore. There has been disharmony among different Baloch freedom fighters in the past few years but the fight for independence is still in full swing with attacks on the paki occupiers taking place all over Balochistan daily.

        Just a few months ago a freelance reporter went inside Balochistan and interviewed Dr Allah Nazar of Baloch Liberation Front and also a field commander of Balochistan Liberation Army pictured below.




        Friends of Baloch, I have a general rule, when I place a troll on ignore I usually don't participate in their threads either, simply because if I don't interfere in their threads they (hopefully if they have any decency, which most trolls don't unfortunately) won't interfere in mine. They will go their way and I will go mine.

        This is why I don't usually post in Da Lahore Mazdigar's threads, but because this is very important I will break this general rule.


        1. Thanks for telling us the truth about Balochistan.

        Without people like you even the likes of me would be none the wiser and still in the dark.

        During the 1971 genocide, the Pakistani media e.g. radio service reported victory after victory right up until December 16th (the day Bangladesh was liberated), so Pakistanis were stunned when they heard of their surrender.

        It seems the Pakistani media is doing something similar again.


        2. The Baloch are a brave people who are taking on a nuclear military of 0.6 million standing backed by America, China, Saudi and Turkey.

        Not many nations could do that, but I know Baloch are a martial race and place honour and self-dignity of the utmost importance.

        I hope that my Muslim brothers and sisters in Balochistan can emulate their Muslim brothers and sisters in Bangladesh and gain their freedom.


        BALOCHISTAN ZINDABAD!



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        • #19
          Originally posted by asad71 View Post
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          India will do nothing for free or charity. The Hindu mind works in a manner that Muslims may not understand easily. The Hindu will smile but have a dagger behind his back to stab. He is never in a hurry. Like the python he will devour his prey slowly.
          what are you talking about? I know hundreds of hindus and they are nothing like that. I know a hindu store owner here in canada who has helped dozens of new muslims, even giving them money, is he also evil hindu?

          You're a typical jahil muslim thinking all hindus and non muslims are evil and all muslims are saints

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Karachi View Post
            what are you talking about? I know hundreds of hindus and they are nothing like that. I know a hindu store owner here in canada who has helped dozens of new muslims, even giving them money, is he also evil hindu?

            You're a typical jahil muslim thinking all hindus and non muslims are evil and all muslims are saints
            1.In our country/society we practically coexist with Hindus - although their population is now down to around 5%. We know them, their mentality and character well.

            2. Jews, Christians and Hindus are no well wishers of Muslims. They will stab a Muslim when he turns his back.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by asad71 View Post
              1.In our country/society we practically coexist with Hindus - although their population is now down to around 5%. We know them, their mentality and character well.

              2. Jews, Christians and Hindus are no well wishers of Muslims. They will stab a Muslim when he turns his back.
              A muslim will also stab a muslims back, this has been happening since 1400 years, thats why there never has been unity in muslims

              Also again you are a complete buffon to generalize about people, typical mullah mentality, why dont you move to your motherland, The great Islamic state of Pakistan

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Karachi View Post
                A muslim will also stab a muslims back, this has been happening since 1400 years, thats why there never has been unity in muslims

                Also again you are a complete buffon to generalize about people, typical mullah mentality, why dont you move to your motherland, The great Islamic state of Pakistan
                Nope, a Muslim will not stab a Muslim just because he is a Muslim. Being human beings Muslims also fight among themselves as we see in Afghanistan, KPK, Baluchistan, Karachi and earlier in BD '71. But a Jew, Christian or a Hindu will stabl a Muslim because he is Muslim. Whereas it was the Caliph at Istanbul who welcomed the persecuted Jews out of Spain. It was the Muslims who had brought the light of civilization in Arabia and later to a pagan Hindustan.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by asad71 View Post
                  Nope, a Muslim will not stab a Muslim just because he is a Muslim. Being human beings Muslims also fight among themselves as we see in Afghanistan, KPK, Baluchistan, Karachi and earlier in BD '71. But a Jew, Christian or a Hindu will stabl a Muslim because he is Muslim. Whereas it was the Caliph at Istanbul who welcomed the persecuted Jews out of Spain. It was the Muslims who had brought the light of civilization in Arabia and later to a pagan Hindustan.
                  AHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH you are so funny! Really you are completely ignorance. Your type of brain dead sub animal organism in this worlds should not even exist. Go do earth some favour and kill yourself, if you have mated kill your parasitic offspring as well.
                  To Paradise, with Pakhto, I will go.

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                  • #24
                    I fully agree with [MENTION=17351]Friends of Baloch[/MENTION] , Baloch insurgency is in full swing, denial and deception is part of Pakistan policies. if their claims are true then they should allow independent media and should not be afraid of journalist

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Friends of Baloch View Post
                      This is the lie that napak army tells to the napak media which in turn repeats the lie to gullible paki population. Baloch society is not 100% tribal just like Pashtun society is not 100% tribal anymore. There has been disharmony among different Baloch freedom fighters in the past few years but the fight for independence is still in full swing with attacks on the paki occupiers taking place all over Balochistan daily.

                      Just a few months ago a freelance reporter went inside Balochistan and interviewed Dr Allah Nazar of Baloch Liberation Front and also a field commander of Balochistan Liberation Army pictured below.




                      I think in the end you have suffered the most

                      *You can't come to your home city,bugti because you killed a woman and minor in your town.
                      *You were helped by Uzair baloch company to get away but he's caught and they(mi or isi) will catch you the movement you land in Pakistan.
                      *you lost your property back home and is considered as a animal even within your close relatives


                      The only available option for you is to either come back to Pakistan and let the military court hang you till death or go for a suicide.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by asad71 View Post
                        Nope, a Muslim will not stab a Muslim just because he is a Muslim. Being human beings Muslims also fight among themselves as we see in Afghanistan, KPK, Baluchistan, Karachi and earlier in BD '71. But a Jew, Christian or a Hindu will stabl a Muslim because he is Muslim. Whereas it was the Caliph at Istanbul who welcomed the persecuted Jews out of Spain. It was the Muslims who had brought the light of civilization in Arabia and later to a pagan Hindustan.
                        Muslims have been beheading each other since the last 1400 years, open your eyes you ignorant fool

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Karachi View Post
                          Muslims have been beheading each other since the last 1400 years, open your eyes you ignorant fool
                          Even a poster seems ignorant, he cannot be called a fool - which is an affront. You have been Reported.

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                          • #28
                            Dirty pakis caught lying again

                            Baloch rebel leader Allah Nazar appears in new video
                            26 November 2015

                            A separatist leader from Pakistan's southwestern Balochistan province, who the government believed it had killed in August, has appeared in a new video.

                            Allah Nazar said he was still leading the insurgency. A Baloch Liberation Front (BLF) spokesman said the video was shot this month.

                            Government officials told the BBC that Nazar appeared to be alive and they were working to verify the video.

                            The rebels say they will oppose planned Chinese investment in the region.

                            "For quite some time the government has been issuing propaganda about my death. This is a blatant lie," said Nazar, who vowed to continue to fight.

                            In September, Balochistan Home Minister Sarfaraz Bugti said the government believed Nazar had been killed in a major military operation in Awaran district in August.

                            "If he is alive, the Pakistani state will keep hunting him as long as he insists on secession, disregards our constitution and keeps killing innocent people," Mr Bugti told BBC Urdu from the provincial capital Quetta.

                            BBC Urdu's Adil Shahzeb says that although Nazar is not a hereditary Baloch chieftain like some of the other separatist leaders in exile, he is fast gaining iconic status among disaffected Baloch youth and his re-emergence amid an intense counter-insurgency operation will undoubtedly add to his mystique.

                            The BLF is one of several separatist groups that have been fighting a low level insurgency in the mineral-rich province in different forms for four decades.

                            Despite its natural resources, the province is still the least developed part of the country. Separatists say it is being exploited by other parts of Pakistan.

                            The rebels have carried out kidnappings and bombings against government and security targets, including gas pipelines and other infrastructure.

                            Human rights groups accuse the military of a campaign of kidnapping, torture and extrajudicial killings of suspected separatists.

                            "They've turned Balochistan into a slaughterhouse," Nazar said.

                            He also said his forces would block China's planned $46 billion economic corridor, which passes through the country and ends in the province's Gwadar port.

                            Nazar said the project was causing Baloch people to be evicted from their homes.

                            The rebel leader, a doctor from the provincial capital of Quetta, is the most prominent Baloch separatist leader still fighting in the country.

                            Others are in exile, including Baramdagh Bugti, who in August said he was ready to negotiate with the government.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Friends of Baloch View Post
                              Baloch rebel leader Allah Nazar appears in new video
                              26 November 2015

                              A separatist leader from Pakistan's southwestern Balochistan province, who the government believed it had killed in August, has appeared in a new video.

                              Allah Nazar said he was still leading the insurgency. A Baloch Liberation Front (BLF) spokesman said the video was shot this month.

                              Government officials told the BBC that Nazar appeared to be alive and they were working to verify the video.

                              The rebels say they will oppose planned Chinese investment in the region.

                              "For quite some time the government has been issuing propaganda about my death. This is a blatant lie," said Nazar, who vowed to continue to fight.

                              In September, Balochistan Home Minister Sarfaraz Bugti said the government believed Nazar had been killed in a major military operation in Awaran district in August.

                              "If he is alive, the Pakistani state will keep hunting him as long as he insists on secession, disregards our constitution and keeps killing innocent people," Mr Bugti told BBC Urdu from the provincial capital Quetta.

                              BBC Urdu's Adil Shahzeb says that although Nazar is not a hereditary Baloch chieftain like some of the other separatist leaders in exile, he is fast gaining iconic status among disaffected Baloch youth and his re-emergence amid an intense counter-insurgency operation will undoubtedly add to his mystique.

                              The BLF is one of several separatist groups that have been fighting a low level insurgency in the mineral-rich province in different forms for four decades.

                              Despite its natural resources, the province is still the least developed part of the country. Separatists say it is being exploited by other parts of Pakistan.

                              The rebels have carried out kidnappings and bombings against government and security targets, including gas pipelines and other infrastructure.

                              Human rights groups accuse the military of a campaign of kidnapping, torture and extrajudicial killings of suspected separatists.

                              "They've turned Balochistan into a slaughterhouse," Nazar said.

                              He also said his forces would block China's planned $46 billion economic corridor, which passes through the country and ends in the province's Gwadar port.

                              Nazar said the project was causing Baloch people to be evicted from their homes.

                              The rebel leader, a doctor from the provincial capital of Quetta, is the most prominent Baloch separatist leader still fighting in the country.

                              Others are in exile, including Baramdagh Bugti, who in August said he was ready to negotiate with the government.
                              I knew that you will post it. :D

                              Anyway akhir bakray ki maa kab tak kher manaigi.
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                              • #30
                                Can't wait for Balochistan to become a free country, I make du'a to Allah that this happens.

                                Bangladesh should help Balochistan after its independence with:

                                - Free posts for military cadets in our academies.
                                - Scholarships in our universities.
                                - Help the new Balochistan navy in the way we train the Qatari navy.
                                - Political support for Balochistan on international fora.
                                - Help in development as we help Afghanistan and even Pakistan through BRAC founded by an ex-Mukti Bahini fighter, Fazle Hasan e Abed.
                                - Help Balochistan in combatting terrorism e.g. Wahabis, Jamaat e Islami, ISI, Taliban, "Muslim" Brotherhood etc.





                                Insha'Allah a better Balochistan will emerge!























                                Kosovars who successfully won their freedom from Serb tyranny in the same way Baloch will win their freedom from Punjabi tyranny insha'Allah.



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