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Source? Not good, dont make more martyrs out of Beghairat Baloch
BTW Allah Nazar is good example of what average Baloch look like
Haha burn in hell haraami Dravidian sc-m
"I bow to no one, except ALLAH. I dont bow to punjabay, do not bow to kabulay and afghanay, do not bow to faujay and mullay, do not bow to asfandyarwalay and petty khanays...i am traitor to all of them." - Smartay
They are either from Afghanistan side being financed by RAW and NDS or from some foreign countries brought up by RAW to create the non existing insurgency in Pakistan.
I am feeling sad for the poor people of Afghanistan,NDS is using the tax paid money of Afghanistan people for stupid activities
Whatever Baloch fighters are, they dont blow up their own people of qaum and qabila.......Yes they are reported to be involved in murders of non-Balochs, but they are not sending a suicide bomber to blow up baloch people watching and playing volleyball match. They are not planting IEDs also. This way they are unable to inflict greater losses to Pakistani security forces, but they prevent the collateral damage of their own people.
From what i have understood, the support for Baloch fighters (rebels for Pakistan) exist in Baloch awaam. History will certainly wont judge them as villians and terrorists. About support from RAW India, Afghan mujahideen (heroes of Pakistan) were receiving help from America, a non-Muslim country.
Baloch movement is dead in the water, they either surrender on mass scale or get killed.
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Best post in PF history
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''Today the ideology of Pakistaniat within Pakistanis is so strong that even if world war 3 is fought within Pakistan boundries,Pakistan will survive.'' [/I]Da Bannu Mazdigar
Whatever Baloch fighters are, they dont blow up their own people of qaum and qabila.......Yes they are reported to be involved in murders of non-Balochs, but they are not sending a suicide bomber to blow up baloch people watching and playing volleyball match. They are not planting IEDs also. This way they are unable to inflict greater losses to Pakistani security forces, but they prevent the collateral damage of their own people.
From what i have understood, the support for Baloch fighters (rebels for Pakistan) exist in Baloch awaam. History will certainly wont judge them as villians and terrorists. About support from RAW India, Afghan mujahideen (heroes of Pakistan) were receiving help from America, a non-Muslim country.
Wow smarty you show your level of intelligence once again. By not killing their own it doesn't mean they are anything but terrorists.
Best post in PF history
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''Today the ideology of Pakistaniat within Pakistanis is so strong that even if world war 3 is fought within Pakistan boundries,Pakistan will survive.'' [/I]Da Bannu Mazdigar
Why are there still separatists in Pakistan after the British left behind their colony on a silver platter over half a century ago?
There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.
Whatever Baloch fighters are, they dont blow up their own people of qaum and qabila.......Yes they are reported to be involved in murders of non-Balochs, but they are not sending a suicide bomber to blow up baloch people watching and playing volleyball match. They are not planting IEDs also. This way they are unable to inflict greater losses to Pakistani security forces, but they prevent the collateral damage of their own people.
From what i have understood, the support for Baloch fighters (rebels for Pakistan) exist in Baloch awaam. History will certainly wont judge them as villians and terrorists. About support from RAW India, Afghan mujahideen (heroes of Pakistan) were receiving help from America, a non-Muslim country.
Very well written. I agree 100% that is why I support our ancient brothers and sisters of Baluchistan to be independent and kick out artificial British made porkistanis.
They are either from Afghanistan side being financed by RAW and NDS or from some foreign countries brought up by RAW to create the non existing insurgency in Pakistan.
I am feeling sad for the poor people of Afghanistan,NDS is using the tax paid money of Afghanistan people for stupid activities
You have to pause and ask yourself some important questions:
1) So what if they are funded by RAW and NDS?.. it doesnt mean that they still dont adhere to or believe in their cause. All it means is that they are an insurgent force that is trying to acquire the means to fight a modern military.
On some level, most weaponry even in the hands of all the sides of the conflict come from some other country (Russia, China, America) does that mean that if they own a pistol or a machine gun from one of these places that they are automatically in the same boat as the supplier?
2) I do not think that its at all fair or just to dismiss the true issues of the deprivations faced by Balochi tribes. Some of it is in the context of corrupt Khans but some of it is Pakistan's central government neglecting regions or limiting resources or not awarding proper funds/monies to regions that supply natural gas/mineral wealth.
3) I dont think an automaton, especially if they are just rabble rousing due to being paid, is going to be this willing to die for their cause.
Why is it that every time Pakistan has faced an ethnic dispute (Bengalis before, Pashtuns at times, Balochis) that you cannot at least take a modicum of responsibility and admit that there are real problems and real corruption that leads people to actually support these movements.
"2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote
You have to pause and ask yourself some important questions:
1) So what if they are funded by RAW and NDS?.. it doesnt mean that they still dont adhere to or believe in their cause. All it means is that they are an insurgent force that is trying to acquire the means to fight a modern military.
I agree,they should do acquire foreign help to fight the superior part but why do you think we should not put the blame on those aiding them?especially India
On some level, most weaponry even in the hands of all the sides of the conflict come from some other country (Russia, China, America) does that mean that if they own a pistol or a machine gun from one of these places that they are automatically in the same boat as the supplier?
They supply them with money and training,take example of TTP.
India has more than 20 consulates in Afghanistan and has now even setup training camps for them.Infact as per some very reliable source's injured adnan rashid was treated in nuristan in a hospital built by India
2) I do not think that its at all fair or just to dismiss the true issues of the deprivations faced by Balochi tribes. Some of it is in the context of corrupt Khans but some of it is Pakistan's central government neglecting regions or limiting resources or not awarding proper funds/monies to regions that supply natural gas/mineral wealth.
I agree about this part but bugti tribe was in power in Balochistan for nearly 2 decades and just look at the situation of their own dera bugti city.They want to keep the baloch poor and brainwash them to get support for them.
Govt indeed is responsible for the sorry infrastructure state of Balochistan but the leaders of Baloch are more responsible
But their exist more honest Baloch leaders like Dr abdul malik baloch.He's truely concerned about the people of Balochistan.Just look at the security improvement in Balochistan ever since he's made CM of Balochistan.
CPEC will take care of the economic part of Balochistan in future
3) I dont think an automaton, especially if they are just rabble rousing due to being paid, is going to be this willing to die for their cause.
Why is it that every time Pakistan has faced an ethnic dispute (Bengalis before, Pashtuns at times, Balochis) that you cannot at least take a modicum of responsibility and admit that there are real problems and real corruption that leads people to actually support these movements.
We accept the problems but the problems making it to seperatist movement does has foreign involvement.We cannot deny this in both the Bangladesh case or Balochistan.
You can ask more about the true facts about 1971 war and the bharat dirty involvement from [MENTION=3580]asad71[/MENTION] brother.He's a veteran of 1971 war and has fought for his country independence.I am sure he knows the ground realities more better than us.
I agree,they should do acquire foreign help to fight the superior part but why do you think we should not put the blame on those aiding them?especially India
They supply them with money and training,take example of TTP.
India has more than 20 consulates in Afghanistan and has now even setup training camps for them.Infact as per some very reliable source's injured adnan rashid was treated in nuristan in a hospital built by India
I agree about this part but bugti tribe was in power in Balochistan for nearly 2 decades and just look at the situation of their own dera bugti city.They want to keep the baloch poor and brainwash them to get support for them.
Govt indeed is responsible for the sorry infrastructure state of Balochistan but the leaders of Baloch are more responsible
But their exist more honest Baloch leaders like Dr abdul malik baloch.He's truely concerned about the people of Balochistan.Just look at the security improvement in Balochistan ever since he's made CM of Balochistan.
CPEC will take care of the economic part of Balochistan in future
We accept the problems but the problems making it to seperatist movement does has foreign involvement.We cannot deny this in both the Bangladesh case or Balochistan.
You can ask more about the true facts about 1971 war and the bharat dirty involvement from [MENTION=3580]asad71[/MENTION] brother.He's a veteran of 1971 war and has fought for his country independence.I am sure he knows the ground realities more better than us.
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India will do nothing for free or charity. The Hindu mind works in a manner that Muslims may not understand easily. The Hindu will smile but have a dagger behind his back to stab. He is never in a hurry. Like the python he will devour his prey slowly.
Baloch movement is dead in the water, they either surrender on mass scale or get killed.
I'm going to have to agree. Baloch independence movement is a dying dream and only a few tribes want independence while the remaining rest are happy with Pakistan. The Sardars are too busy bloating for attention that they are willing to sell out and most of the the separatist leaders live outside of Pakistan like Hyrbairr Baloch who lives in London.
I also think that the fact they are migrating to many different countries (like the gulf) that their populations for a independence movement is dropping and are notable for settling with other populations.
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