Our problem. My take on it.

[Azmal]

It is not just the Paki girls here who are cussing, foaming at their mouths, or even threaten and those back home that uses violence...in my opinion the main problem it is the idea that nothing is wrong in our interpretation of Islam…when a Muslims girl in heart of Kabul question obscurantist idea and she is murdered by locals some cheers and some blame west. The fact is as long as obscurantist ideas are fostered and we are not ready to have a broader dialogue on Islam and the Muslim traditions and practices we are morally and spiritually supporting the extremist.
The first step in solving any problem is recognizing there is one….However, the situation is much worse, dire and widespread that no one is welling to question it—without being labeled as “Kafir” as they did to Farkhunda. I see all the groups listed below as the problem:

1. The apologists of the Taliban like groups that never condemn the evil actions of these groups or worst try to justify these evils..ex suicide bombing kills 80 innocent civilian Muslims Afghans---“so what this is the war impose by west. They are fighting western.”
2. People who are sold to the idea that all this is leading to the spread of Islam.
3. People who are thinking and practicing strict interpretations of Quran.
4. People who are averse to Ijthehad and Tajweed in Islam.
5. People who are intolerant to others views on Islam…Shia deserve to killed because they are Mushriks.
6. People who are trying to mix Islam with politics.
7. People who are fatalistic and believe that Allah will save the Muslims and we do not need to worry about it.

Some gang of thugs is the worst manifestation of items I have mentioned above. The problem in Afghanistan is…that very few will accept the reality....and the fact is that the majority are in a state of denial. The newspapers and the radio and TV networks are generally following this path. The Afghan intellectuals I come across think the following: -
1. The Taliban are mainly foreigners; they are not Muslims.
2. There are very few of these mercenaries; all trained by Pakis and CIA to destroy Islam.
3. We are on the path of democracy and democracy will in the long run get rid of extremism.
4. The Afghans come out of every calamity; they are very resilient; no one can destroy Afghanistan.
5. Mossad and CIA are conspiring against us; Pakis are their dog and Iranians are also against us.
The whole Nation is daydreaming and is hostage to their erroneous beliefs, misconceptions and false hopes. Unfortunately, there is very little hope for the Nation till they completely overhaul their thinking. The fact is the extremist Islam is a subset of the whole Islam. Now it shares core values that are necessary to sustain it that are not challenged by the majority. Like killings in the name of blasphemy…the justification of killing of infidels, or suicide bombing that mostly results in killing of Muslims. This is a fundamental flaw in our ability to tackle life and death situations confronting our nation as a whole and Muslim world in general and as individuals we have no chance.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

It is not just the Paki girls here who are cussing, foaming at their mouths,

LOL, Slopey D, is that anyway to talk about Grandma Zikria, the pseudo lineage lady you invented to become a spawn of Telai? I would expect her to curse if she birthed the likes of you too!

or even threaten and those back home that uses violence

There is your perverse sado masochism again - just because you use whips and chains on yourself to commemorate karbala and do other things against the advices of Hasaan and Hussein doesn't mean the rest of us want to do that to you. Beating up retards is a sin - so you are free from abuse.

...in my opinion the main problem it is the idea that nothing is wrong in our interpretation of Islam…when a Muslims girl in heart of Kabul question obscurantist idea

Quit with your idiot haramzadaah saleh bull-sh-it. Farkhonda was herself a wahhabist, attending madrassah and then on top of that dressed head to toe by her own consent in a veil. She was protesting the sales of tawiz, a cultural phenomena where local Pir/shamaan sells trinkets with that are purported to have magical powers and healing powers etc. She viewed this, and worship at the shrine (another cultural leaning) as against Islam:

Everyone seems to agree that on Thursday, she got into an argument with a man who sold amulets in front of the Shah-Do Shamshera shrine. She regarded amulet-sellers as parasites, friends and family members told the AP, and dissuaded others from buying them.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/03/23/afghan-woman-beaten-to-death-for-a-crime-she-didnt-commit-becomes-a-rallying-point-for-activists/

and

Farkhunda, who like many Afghans has just one name, was a 27-year-old who wore a religious veil and held a degree in religious studies

Maybe someone like you would have been involved in the assault as well since we could all venture to guess that Sildenafil (Viagra) doesn't work for you when you are doing your "magic dance" for Saleh and you think some tawizoona could cure your micro pecker impotence.



and she is murdered by locals some cheers and some blame west.

No, fool, look at the data and look at WHAT has radicalized Afghans more than anything else:

But the majority praised him for the murder. One man said it would’ve been better if she had been taken to court but another disagreed. “You did the right thing. If the case was taken to court, it might’ve been taken to America and it would’ve become a political stain.”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/03/20/there-was-nothing-honorable-about-kabul-killing.html#

Meaning half-wit mongaloids like you cheered these impositions from abroad and instead of gaining the reaction you wished for, and instead of being able to blame this act on Taliban - the very people you tried to force into thinking one way developed a reactionary response. Murder begets murder stupid as-s.

The fact is as long as obscurantist ideas are fostered and we are not ready to have a broader dialogue on Islam and the Muslim traditions and practices we are morally and spiritually supporting the extremist.

As noted above, Tawiz and visiting the graves of ghazi, saints, etc has NOTHING to do with Islam and everything to do with our traditional heritage that you and your girl friend Zalmaay Khalilzaad's long nose Netanyahu wife are claiming to "defend."

The sole extremist is that ugly, balding, kabob salesman face you encounter in the mirror every morning. We admit its an extreme sight.



The first step in solving any problem is recognizing there is one….However, the situation is much worse, dire and widespread that no one is welling to question it—without being labeled as “Kafir” as they did to Farkhunda.

Wow! Saleh and you are really tight huh? So tight that he inserted himself so high in you that your mouth speaks his words! As note above, the sequence of events has and had nothing to do with the scriptural or traditional application of the madhabs of Islam.

Rather the problem with the nation is that thalidomide mongaloid half wits like you think that you can spread mis and half truths and that you will not be questioned. Try again Daruish.

I see all the groups listed below as the problem:

Hold up the mirror to that ugly mug - there is the problem.



1. The apologists of the Taliban like groups that never condemn the evil actions of these groups or worst try to justify these evils..ex suicide bombing kills 80 innocent civilian Muslims Afghans---“so what this is the war impose by west. They are fighting western.”

You mean stating facts bristles you and causes your female parts to tingle and jingle? Of course they would - besides selling kabobs, the war industry lines your and your good for nothing welfare recipient relatives pockets.

At antiwar.com Jason Ditz and colleagues have been watching the narrative you and your Ahmad Shuja types have been trying to push.

The increased casualties in residential areas are primarily the result of increased used of mortars in those areas, and in spite of the overall attempts to pin it on the Taliban, Afghan military forces are actually to blame for 59% of mortar casualties among civilians

http://news.antiwar.com/2015/08/05/afghan-civilian-casualties-hit-record-high-in-first-half-of-2015/

Robert Pape has done a superb job already decimating your stupid thought process of:

Super power invades ---> asymmetric warfare ensues ---> everyone hugs each other and submits.

His seminal work has taken the largest sample size of suicide events in the region and shown clearly their linkage to the penetration of ISAF troop movements into Pashtun areas. But I guess haraam zadeh persiofascists like you that want to attack Islam and have disparaged it are all to happy to make nonsensical linkages.

http://www.pashtunforums.com/showthread.php?t=46504

Its OK Daruish, you can go weep over the fire jumping monkey ancestors you wish to commemorate elsewhere.




2. People who are sold to the idea that all this is leading to the spread of Islam.
3. People who are thinking and practicing strict interpretations of Quran.
4. People who are averse to Ijthehad and Tajweed in Islam.

?Tajweed generally means enhancing or improving Quranic recitation. Monkey, which Muslim is averse to this?

5. People who are intolerant to others views on Islam…Shia deserve to killed because they are Mushriks.

No, but the ones like you that are subversive, benefiting from the war industry and are advocating continued massive incursions and aerial bombardments of Pashtuns are causing themselves and their people harm by acting like fifth column citizens and then b-itching and complaining when the society reacts.

6. People who are trying to mix Islam with politics.
7. People who are fatalistic and believe that Allah will save the Muslims and we do not need to worry about it.

Some gang of thugs is the worst manifestation of items I have mentioned above.

Really? The worst thugs, it seems, are the balding losers like you that amounted to nothing but are now taking on politics as a side trade and attempting to benefit off the military industrial complex. Your shrill cat-calls for "humanitarian" interventionalism and "common alliances" are hardly attempts to betterment but rather your clear and present attempt to become the master- pim-p of a whole nation using the barrel end of a gun aimed at the Afghan people.

The problem in Afghanistan is…that very few will accept the reality....and the fact is that the majority are in a state of denial.

Why? Because they disagree with your Slopey D bull sh-it? No, that likely means that see through your Kiplingesque attempts to force civilize them with mortars and weapons raining down on them. That is called survival and pride - the former you know well since you have done so being Saleh's performing artist and the latter you know nothing of because you are a persiofascist who had to invent an identity Daruish.

The newspapers and the radio and TV networks are generally following this path. The Afghan intellectuals I come across think the following: -
1. The Taliban are mainly foreigners; they are not Muslims.
2. There are very few of these mercenaries; all trained by Pakis and CIA to destroy Islam.
3. We are on the path of democracy and democracy will in the long run get rid of extremism.
4. The Afghans come out of every calamity; they are very resilient; no one can destroy Afghanistan.
5. Mossad and CIA are conspiring against us; Pakis are their dog and Iranians are also against us.
The whole Nation is daydreaming and is hostage to their erroneous beliefs, misconceptions and false hopes. Unfortunately, there is very little hope for the Nation till they completely overhaul their thinking. The fact is the extremist Islam is a subset of the whole Islam. Now it shares core values that are necessary to sustain it that are not challenged by the majority. Like killings in the name of blasphemy…the justification of killing of infidels, or suicide bombing that mostly results in killing of Muslims. This is a fundamental flaw in our ability to tackle life and death situations confronting our nation as a whole and Muslim world in general and as individuals we have no chance.

There you go again Daruish, using subversive retardedness like you tried to above with spinning falsehoods into Farkhonda's story to push your ancestor monkey fire jumper narrative. LOOOOL. Epic fail. Go back to the drawing board and write your girl Ayaan for some better ideas next time. Maybe you and her and her hubby Niall can share a stage with Robbie Spencer (the ultimate Azmal Daddy)

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[Karachi]

What you are saying is generally the case in most of muslim world, not just afghanistan. Muslim world has always been violent, however it has become much more intolerant because of the retarded Saudi version of Islam, and of course the wars US/Israel create doesn't help anything and creates more terrorists

[Al-Afghani]

The facts speak for themselves. But we can quickly dismiss any casualties caused by Taliban, since they are using "low resolution weapons", which justifies it.

Highest Civilian Casualty Figures Ever

Taleban and other opposition groups: 70 per cent of the total, a reduction of 3 per cent compared to January-June 2014 (UNAMA refers to ‘anti-Government Elements’ unless the Taleban has specifically claimed responsibility for an incident; AAN here uses ‘Taleban’ as short hand for all the various armed opposition groups)

Pro-government forces: 16 per cent (15 per cent Afghan national security forces and pro-government armed groups, 1 per cent to international military forces), a rise of 60 per cent

https://www.afghanistan-analysts.org/highest-civilian-casualty-figures-ever-unama-details-deaths-by-mortar-ied-suicide-attack-and-targeted-killing/

[DaZahroJaam.]

I recently read somewhere that fights between good and evil end quickly. It's the wars between this struggling for the power that last decades..
Maybe the punjabis, Arabs or Americans started or aided this war between afghans.. But the reason it's not ending is because neither of us have the decency to sit down with the other and have a heart to heart talk. For the sake of our own future or nation. We don't have that in us. Let's not fool ourselves.

[Toramana]

What you are saying is generally the case in most of muslim world, not just afghanistan. Muslim world has always been violent, however it has become much more intolerant because of the retarded Saudi version of Islam, and of course the wars US/Israel create doesn't help anything and creates more terrorists

I will take exception to that statement. Do you think Muslims alone are responsible for violence in the world? Or are the things occurring in continuity in a cause-effect relation? Don't you think the present crisis is also due to the colonization of the past 2-3 centuries?

Are Palestinians alone responsible for the violence in the Middle East? Do you think Palestiains committed the holocaust or oppression of Jews so creating Zionist nationalist sentiments and quest for homeland or some ones else?

And how many wars or sectarian or otherwise have been waged by Muslims in the last 2000 years, how many by others?

How many people have been killed by Muslims in the past 5 centuries vis-a-vis others? In WW1 and WW2 alone, 100 million people were killed (and almost equally injured)--this is not to mention the total extermination of indigenous communities?

There is no denying the fact that Islamists, IS, Taleban etc. (along with spiritual leader Barakzai Abdali) need extermination but to say that it is Muslims that is too simplistic.

By saying such things we will not be helpful. We should analyse things objectively and rationally.

[Khostai]

I recently read somewhere that fights between good and evil end quickly. It's the wars between this struggling for the power that last decades..
Maybe the punjabis, Arabs or Americans started or aided this war between afghans.. But the reason it's not ending is because neither of us have the decency to sit down with the other and have a heart to heart talk. For the sake of our own future or nation. We don't have that in us. Let's not fool ourselves.

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[Badlun]

Azmal is 100% correct except the use of the word Tajweed. Islam place is only mosque. The onlu way forward is secularism.

[Toramana]

First genocide of 20th century

By 1909, 65,000 people had been killed , and an estimated 80 percent of the Herero people and 50 percent of the Nama had been wiped out.

The skulls of thousands of victims who died in battle or in the camps were sent back to Berlin for racial analysis, to support then current anthropological theories of European supremacy.

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2015/07/forgotten-genocide-namibia-quest-reparations-150730090349305.html

[Azmal]

Here you go again…cussing while foaming at your mouths…but then I have made you to confess the discussion is personal to you---thus right and wrong has no inference here. Farkhunda’s sect or even religious believes are futile…the fact is she was savagely murdered when she questioned a obscurantist practice—a social norms in Afghanistan.…just as you will be skinned alive if you venture into Shia territory and question “chains on yourself to commemorate karbala.” As you had pleasantly putted… while for you “Tawiz and visiting the graves of ghazi, saints, etc has NOTHING to do with Islam.” For Sufi’s and others it is their Islam—thus proves the pluralism of Islam—just as your chacha ji Barelvi had have declared the founder of the school at Deoband to be Murtadd and the Deobandi school to have nothing to do with Islam…What I’m trying to tell you is thatpolitical Islam as well as our traditional Islam in my view are a hindrance to people's faith. Without faith, you cannot motivate yourselves to perform good deeds. People should not ignore the fact that Muslims the world over are viewed as liars, thieves, tyrants, corrupted and violent—you are vivid model in this forum—when you gladly admitted “guilty as charge” to be bigot or how you dash and badmouth others Muslims as “mongaloids.” Most of you Islamist suffer from their narcissistic conjectures, irrespective of your birthplace…how else you explain inserting a bomb in your rectum? This is why you and your backward gang always resort to warped up versions of history that stretch as far back as hundreds if not thousands of years, in the hope to legitimize a current fancy or future brutality as “vengeance”. With this, a cycle of unending stupidity is forever ensured as the laws of the land, hence governing the people by a dictatorship of the soul. People need to form an appreciation for God through free inquiry, instead people's views are blurred by the ugly faces of Barevi, Omar, Jallaludin Haqqani, Rabbani, Syaf, Massod, Zia-ul-Haq, or Gulbudin. Although they position themselves as the pillars of our faith, they in effect empower themselves as man-gods, hence the ultimate evil of all. In todays world, thanks to advance of technology…you can’t change people by foaming at our mouths, cussing and threatening to use violence. ..in fact it will have an adverse effect as the mass conversion of Muslim Afghan to Christianity people were talking about in Afghanistan.
Instead of being all defensive and puking profanity…trying to understand I’m here to help you, for when you realize what a self-conflicted mental-midget you evidently are, then perhaps my well-meaning psychotherapy might help you become a better man, free of charge.

[Azmal]

First genocide of 20th century

By 1909, 65,000 people had been killed , and an estimated 80 percent of the Herero people and 50 percent of the Nama had been wiped out.

The skulls of thousands of victims who died in battle or in the camps were sent back to Berlin for racial analysis, to support then current anthropological theories of European supremacy.

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opi...090349305.html

"White man burden" is well documented and sadly continues…however what I find truly absurd is the inability to mention of the Muslim behavior in response. In fact these people completely condone shameless murder, killing and oppression, in spite of the clear betrayal of Islamic faith manifested in their behavior. Do we as a muslim ever ask ourselves about OUR sense of responsibility? I guess it’s perfectly ok for Muslim leaders to deny their citizens their liberties and for Muslims in Islam’s name to engage in the heinous crimes around the globe, but when west hold up a mirror to these idiocies to justify their middling then it is west that are responsible for it all. Way to go… It is so easy to seek blame on others, while we engage in collective amnesia to atrocities taking place in our name, right?

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Here you go again…cussing while foaming at your mouths…but then I have made you to confess the discussion is personal to you

LOOOOL. Remember, a few of us here have samples of your auditioning authorship at erotic literature. If I were to repost that here for all to see I am sure my "cussing" would appear tame - like passing out daisies at the state fair.

---thus right and wrong has no inference here. Farkhunda’s sect or even religious believes are futile…the fact is she was savagely murdered when she questioned a obscurantist practice—a social norms in Afghanistan.…just as you will be skinned alive if you venture into Shia territory and question “chains on yourself to commemorate karbala.” As you had pleasantly putted… while for you “Tawiz and visiting the graves of ghazi, saints, etc has NOTHING to do with Islam.” For Sufi’s and others it is their Islam—thus proves the

Once again, you are talking out of your labia - idiot. By the text and by the letter, the Taweez history and Sufi practices have no scriptural basis/commonalities either in their madhabs or in their writings.

Taweez is something that predates Islam and comes from the shamanistic past religion similar to the pir (shaman- spirit talker) and piryaan (spirits) concept any Pashtun worth his salt has heard of in the oral history.

Some of these taweez and talismans are just scribbling, some of them are not even that; they are just arithmetic forumations, i.e. some numerals arranged in certain orders. This parallelism, of course, does not mean that that the taweez of today is an offshoot of the Indus seal amulet but it certainly furnishes a relevant perspective for the possible usage of the latter in middle Asia...Ancient Pakistan- An Archaelogical History Volume IV: Harrapan Civilization page 230

So now, based on your logic, all local practices that are indigenous have to somehow be linked and blamed upon some sect of Islam? That is an absurdity beyond absurdity since the central argument your ilk tender to promote interventionalism is that a benign neutered form of Islam has to be hoisted on the people that demands basically erasing the accepted madhabs and returning to some barely accessible pre-Islamic mode of operation that involves becoming Zoroastrian. Yet as we can see from these practices, even some indigenous "norms" are not aligned with the supposedly Western concepts of egalitarianism and post enlightenment discussion.



pluralism of Islam—just as your chacha ji Barelvi had have declared the founder of the school at Deoband to be Murtadd and the Deobandi school to have nothing to do with Islam…What I’m trying to tell you is thatpolitical Islam as well as our traditional Islam in my view are a hindrance to people's faith.

Traditional in what sense? As in the literal sense? As in that in which locals supercede the commands of the Quran to permit fathers and husbands to bequeath land to their daughters and wives by deferring to age old Tribal norms?

And once again moron, you are assuming political Islam is the instigator and that the responses are somehow all aligned with everyone wanting now to jump on the atheist boat just because you and a few of your boyfriends with oiled up hair decided that was what they wanted to do. To the contrary, the most robust data out of Pew and Maryland show the contrary - that the very views people attribute to Political Islamism (e.g. some form of shariat involved in law systems, animosity to outside interventionalism, etc) are growing and considered the NORM as possibly a RESPONSIVE element in the society - i.e. as the effect and not the cause of interventionalism.

An in-depth poll of four major Muslim countries has found that in all of them large majorities believe that undermining Islam is a key goal of US foreign policy. Most want US military forces out of the Middle East and many approve of attacks on US troops there.

Most respondents have mixed feelings about al Qaeda. Large majorities agree with many of its goals, but believe that terrorist attacks on civilians are contrary to Islam.

There is strong support for enhancing the role of Islam in all of the countries polled, through such measures as the imposition of sharia (Islamic law). This does not mean that they want to isolate their societies from outside influences: Most view globalization positively and favor democracy and freedom of religion.

http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/brmiddleeastnafricara/346.php

And Afghanistan subsequently had the highest support for Sharia AND also had the highest support (2/3 of respondents) that said shariat has one interpretation:

In South Asia, high percentages in all the countries surveyed support making sharia the official law, including nearly universal support among Muslims in Afghanistan (99%). More than eight-in-ten Muslims in Pakistan (84%) and Bangladesh (82%) also hold this view.

http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-beliefs-about-sharia/

If you look, the commonalities of where radicalism pops up and the sequence is the following:

Idiots like Badlun and you make up stuff about how the West needs create "alliances" and "G8" situations in various nations ---> You become cheerleaders for the bombs and the misery that rain down on the people while alluding to some nonexistent history that you claim a new generation of radicals are responsible for ---> You make up a local threat to make it seem as if the options are between Sh-it and Sh-ittier and Sh-ittiest and therefore opt to validate further occupation which in turn ----> Promotes even more radicalization.

This endless positive feedback loop has hardly created more atheists but it has certainly created more dead secularists and more vicious fighters than ever before seen.

War is Darwinistic Slopey-D - if the invader is unwilling to utilize lethal force then what survives is more cunning, capable, and adept at war than what existed before.




Without faith, you cannot motivate yourselves to perform good deeds.

That is the most idiotic thing I have yet seen you write. One of the very bases for Islamic theology is that man in his nature is predisposed to do good but is led astray.

Also, you are painting the peoples of that side of the world with a very wide Kiplingesque paint brush. I have seen the warmth and hospitality of people in the many Eastern regions that involves going to the fullest extent for a guest because it is a mark of honor and has been a mark of that society for ages without religious literalism in the mix.

People should not ignore the fact that Muslims the world over are viewed as liars, thieves, tyrants, corrupted and violent—you are vivid model in this forum—when you gladly admitted “guilty as charge” to be bigot or how you dash and badmouth others Muslims as “mongaloids.”

LOOOL. Nice try Slopey-D (Daruish) aka Mr. Bible (due to your glaring contraditions LOOOL) - link to the original post in which you claim I want an autonomous independent Afghanistan that is a "cacoon" nation state. Which was in response to you rushing to justify the suction seal of your lips on the behind of whitey (where you left many many hickeys) as some sort of equal deal making between equivalent autonomous nations.

Most of you Islamist suffer from their narcissistic conjectures, irrespective of your birthplace…how else you explain inserting a bomb in your rectum?

Yet most of you fire jumping nostalgic monkeys/persiofascists insert eachothers "flutes" into many of each others orifices and call it "modernity" and "privacy in the home" and are far far to willing to have Tom, Tina, and Dave take the brunt of that war maneuver instead of exposing yourselves to the fires you set on a pure whim. Until you take an imaginary trip overseas and no one wants to buy the idiothope you are selling.

This is why you and your backward gang always resort to warped up versions of history that stretch as far back as hundreds if not thousands of years, in the hope to legitimize a current fancy or future brutality as “vengeance”.

Here you go again Slopey-D. You take 1 step forward and then 2 back. So the histories of invasions, subversions, tyrannies imposed from abroad etc are all just imaginary? How idiotic are you? Oh I see, your argument is that a new generation of Muslims have to settle for these facets of your buddy Zalmay KhalilZaad's wife's wet dreams because somehow somewhere back in the past Muslims did the same to your fire jumping monkey ancestors? Who is playing fast and loose with historical norms? I would say the only rectal device in play here is the one you keep sticking up in yourself to come up with these idiotic conclusions.


With this, a cycle of unending stupidity is forever ensured as the laws of the land, hence governing the people by a dictatorship of the soul. P

How dumb are you really? Are you mega level dumb or just Daruish level dumb? You are comparing post war governments (e.g. Post Iraq post Afghan Civil War, emerging post Libya civil war, and the installed Saudi Tyrants) as some sort of legit for and by the people modes of governance that demonstrate the dynamic range of law systems that fed, nourished, and nurtured civilizations for 1000+ years? That would be akin to saying Pakistani or Morrocan democracy is a dictatorship of the plutocrat - which would be an absurd standard by which to judge capitalistic democratic pluralism.

Only fools with agendas like you are capable of making such inapt comparisons.

eople need to form an appreciation for God through free inquiry, instead people's views are blurred by the ugly faces of Barevi, Omar, Jallaludin Haqqani, Rabbani, Syaf, Massod, Zia-ul-Haq, or Gulbudin. Although they position themselves as the pillars of our faith, they in effect empower themselves as man-gods, hence the ultimate evil of all.

No one would look even twice at these people if grease monkey kabob salesmen like you who are failures abroad did not want to compensate for their ill begotten gains and lack of progress by becoming the newly minted plutocrats/oligarchs in the imposed nonautonomous Afghan system. In past generations and modern times alike what drove support for ideological movements were outside incursions and interferences. It is the same in most nation states. George W Bush had to pledge to "not be the worlds policeman" in 1999 and yet in 2001 and 2003 he galvanized support by claiming he was on God's mission and appealed to ideological patriotism in the environs of fear to win multiple elections for himself and his party. The nature of people is to fall back on what comforts and unites them against what they perceive is aggression.

After Omar and Gulbedeen and the like there will be a new generation of the same that crops up - and the same in Libya - There was Omar Mokthaar in the early 1900s and now there is Belhaj who will, after he is killed, captured, or whatever give way to the next guy in line.

In todays world, thanks to advance of technology…you can’t change people by foaming at our mouths, cussing and threatening to use violence. ..in fact it will have an adverse effect as the mass conversion of Muslim Afghan to Christianity people were talking about in Afghanistan.

Are you this naive and dumb to think that we believe your drivel? Just because some of your Hazara buddies got on the "ride to America" gravy train to hang out with cousin Slopey-D doesnt mean Pashtuns worth their salt are lining up to bow to the cross, idiot.

Instead of being all defensive and puking profanity…trying to understand I’m here to help you, for when you realize what a self-conflicted mental-midget you evidently are,

Coming from a Kluver Bucy afflicted being like yourself that is fast on the way to being the next Katelin Jenner of Kabul - I think the height difference there between me and you must be like Shaquille O Neil (me) vs Mugsy Boges (you)

then perhaps my well-meaning psychotherapy might help you become a better man, free of charge.

You meant psychopathy? No I prefer none of that Slopey-D. I prefer not to live a shizophrenic existence where I on the one hand claim to return from the watan realizing that people cannot be forced to do anything but then in the same stinking rotting teeth breath due to all the servicing you did to Saleh and his friend Atmar you claim bending over for Davey and his friends is essential since alliances are a part of the global terrain LOOOOL

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