Taliban chief Mullah Mohammad Omar was killed two years ago

[marwat]

The Taliban supreme leader Mullah Mohammad Omar was killed by senior Taliban leaders two years ago, it has been claimed.
A splinter group of the Taliban – Afghanistan Islamic Movement Fidai Mahaz has said Mullah Omar was killed by Taliban leaders Mullah Akhtar Muhammad Mansoor and Gull Agha.
The group’s spokesman Qari Hamza said Mullah Omar was killed two years ago in the same month of July.
Hamza claimed that the group has evidences to prove their claims that Mullah Omar was killed by Mullah Akhtar Muhammad Mansoor and Gull Agha.
This comes as the Afghan Intelligence – National Directorate of Security (NDS) said in November last year that Mullah Omar has possibly passed away amid reports that the group has divided into three different parts.
Reports also circulated last year suggesting that Mullah Omar has given his old friend and deputy Akhtar Mohammad Mansoor the authority to make decisions on his behalf regarding the peace process.
NDS spokesman Hasib Sediqi told reporters during a press conference on 19th November last year that senior Taliban figures have divided into three groups due to the major differences they have.
Sediqi said the first group is led by Mullah Qayum Zakir and Tayeb Agha is a member along with Hafiz Majeed, Amir Khan Haqqani, Mullah Mohammad Esa, Khadim Abdul RAuf, Zia Agha and Torak Agha.
He said the second group is led by Mullah Agha and Mullah Samad Sani, Mawlavi Nani, Sadar Ibrahim, Sheikh Mawlavi Abdul Hakimand Mawlavi Mohibulalh are members.
Sediqi also added that the third group is comprised of neutral Taliban leaders.
On the other hand, officials in ARG presidential palace said Mullah Omar was in custody of the Pakistani security forces in Karachi city of Pakistan.
Aimal Faizi, spokesman for ex-President Hamid Karzai said the issue was shared by the US Secretary of State John Kerry.
“The current Secretary of State John Kerry who was serving as the US Senator, had shared the issue with President Karzai during a meeting in Kabul,” Faizi added.
According to Faizi, President Karzai had sought clarification regarding the presence of Mullah Omar in Karachi city, but received no satisfactory response from Kerry.
“President Karzai immediately responded and said why US is not taking any action to apprehend him? There is a US bounty on him and ordinary civilians are targeted on daily basis under his leadership, but he is in custody of Pakistani forces,” Faizi added.

[ComradePashtun]

Mullah Omar Loy khar the village idiot is merely a mythical character. Neither the Taliban movement itself organically evolved and expanded and neither did he rise to its leadership through some kind of process. ISI in a true sense was the architect of the way the Taliban movement was plotted and designed hence had almost a full control over it, and Mullah Omar was propagated to have been a leader in charge. Only fools believed this then when in fact behind the scene it was Colonel Imam who was the actual ruler of Taliban, and fools believe that Mullah Omar controlled the Taliban after their downfall.

[ComradePashtun]

I don't know anything about Mullah Akhtar Mansour but it seems that the Qatar office to be under his influence. Any information about his past would be interesting. I read an article by Wahid Muzhdah where he has mentioned couple of the Talibs who participated in the Murree talks as recognised ISI agents and that a friction existed with them even under the Taliban rule. Remember Mullah Bradar and Mullah Rabani who were against ISI control of the movement and how they were eliminated.

[ComradePashtun]

So it might be a good thing after all that this one-eyed village idiot is dead.

[ComradePashtun]

I meant to say Mullah Burjan who was assasinated, but Mullah Bradar was also against ISI's role in the so called movement.

[khushal]

But why do so many people including Karza's father claim they have met Omar Hotak?

[Brown Skinned Savage]

Without treating the struggles of the Afghan people as a game. If we're going to delve into a covert Ops/conspiratorial discourse about the evolving events of Afghanistan, especially concentrated over the last 20 years. Then here's my "hypothesis" ....and the quotes are because I use this term loosely. This is neither rigorous nor considering all the evidence but just everything I can think of at the moment.


OK.......America's intervention in Afghanistan is more far reaching than we give it credit. Quite probably dating back to te 1950's-60's during the height of the Cold War.

American intelligence spent millions, possibly billions researching the cultural and historical landscape of Afghanistan and especially the Pashtun tribes.

Is it not a peculiar coincidence, that the Taliban are lead by a HOTAK, while the replacement given official endorsement by the U.S. is a POPALZAI , a branch of the Sadozai clan, who were historic rivals and also had a member of its clan act as a political stooge for the British, just as Karzai was for the Americans.

Replaying both the historic rivalry of "ghilzai vs. sadozai" as well as British imperial history, to agitate the sentiments of Afghans from all spectra. Would it then not be relevant to suggest that this itself has been orchestrated, that the "figurehead" of the Taliban is a mythologized character manufactured by the U.S. intelligence cadre and that Karzai was merely an instrument to exploit, with the entire story line of supposedly "meeting" this fictional Mullah Umar, while possessing the pedigree to boot.

For what ends? Hegemony at all costs , but why Afghanistan, a land with few in the way of resources, Maybe some copper, a gas pipeline , lapis lazuli, but asides from that nothing. Maybe there is more to what's in Afghanistan than we realize.

[khushal]

For what ends? Hegemony at all costs , but why Afghanistan, a land with few in the way of resources, Maybe some copper, a gas pipeline , lapis lazuli, but asides from that nothing. Maybe there is more to what's in Afghanistan than we realize.

The US has said numerous times that we can not allow sanctuaries for "terrorists," which is what the Taliban were doing. To allow sanctuaries for these people is a threat to the hegemonic order.

[Brown Skinned Savage]

The US has said numerous times that we can not allow sanctuaries for "terrorists," which is what the Taliban were doing. To allow sanctuaries for these people is a threat to the hegemonic order.

Well that's a parallel arc but the arc I was constructing had the US involved in manufacturing Mullah Umar to set the stage for Karzai and US intervention. I'm being mildly serious but fully aware I'm running off of flimsy associations here. I'm playing the devil's conspiracy nut more or less. Haha

[asad71]

So far there has been no reliable evidence that the Amir has been assassinated or expired of natural causes. There are offices run with well pad, well trained and well equipped people to churn out such lies/disinformation/misinformation by the West-Zionist Shaytans.

[khushal]

Well that's a parallel arc but the arc I was constructing had the US involved in manufacturing Mullah Umar to set the stage for Karzai and US intervention. I'm being mildly serious but fully aware I'm running off of flimsy associations here. I'm playing the devil's conspiracy nut more or less. Haha

It does not make sense at all. The US did not need Mullah Omar to set a justification to invade, besides Omar was not involved in the 911 attacks which was the justification.

A "rational" conspiracy nut would say that OBL was constructed to set the stage for Karzai and US intervention. The US has such sophisticated media outlets that they could easily set a stage to invade almost any country.

Look at Iran as an example, they could have set the stage to bomb it to hell or to become its ally and open it up to the World. It chose the latter and the media is all over it convincing the American public.

[Brown Skinned Savage]

Well if you think of the US within the NEXUS of a Sataniic Cabal then it makes perfect sense. It wouldn't just set the stage it would manipulate the local population by exploiting their historical identities against them.

hence the Umar Hotak vs. Hamid Karzai(Popalzai/Sadozai) dichotomy. Umar Hotak is a made up character in this storyline, which the Stooge Karzai played up for his masters. Now that that storyline has been used up a new phase in the social control of Muslims is in order.

[khushal]

Omar wasnt the justification for the invasion, OBL was.

[ComradePashtun]

But why do so many people including Karza's father claim they have met Omar Hotak?

I never said he did not exist. I know a person who have met him half a dozen times in Kandahar. His was a symbolic Amir ul Jahileen.

[khushal]

Mullah Omar Loy khar the village idiot is merely a mythical character. Neither the Taliban movement itself organically evolved and expanded and neither did he rise to its leadership through some kind of process. ISI in a true sense was the architect of the way the Taliban movement was plotted and designed hence had almost a full control over it, and Mullah Omar was propagated to have been a leader in charge. Only fools believed this then when in fact behind the scene it was Colonel Imam who was the actual ruler of Taliban, and fools believe that Mullah Omar controlled the Taliban after their downfall.

Here you say he is a mythical character and then say that col imam was the actual ruler when in fact the Taliban killed col imam on camara.