Pashtuns of Pakistan discussion

[MazloomYarMasud]

It is paradise, compared to Pakistan, I give you my word come check it out...you won't have to know farsi to speak to our puppet president or any of the ministers. While your at it, go back to Pakistan and try to speak Pashtu with Zardari or Musharaf lol
They will probably look around and tell the Camera-crew, did you bring us here to listen to this bullcrap (Pashtu) ?
that's just a minor example!
Now, imagine visiting Afghanistan, when our government is independent, when our government (capital kabul) has streets and Salor larey/traffic lights named after Pashtunistan, where there are neighborhoods like Khushal khan mena in Kabul, or the best high schools named after Rahman Baba.
when our government had special scholarships for the students of Pashtunkhwa, that's why ost of the ANP and other Pakhtun nationalists in Pashtunkhwa were educated in Kabul or Nangarhar university, including Mahmood Khan Achakzai.
There is a day called "PASHTUNISTAN DAY" that's celebrated in Afghanistan, with the presence of millions of other minorities.
You go do that in Islamabad or Rawalpindi and I'LL CHANGE MY IDENTITY FROM AFGHAN TO PASHTUN AND THEN EVENTUALLY TO A PAKISTANI.
I'm not going to talk about thousands of other MUST points like, our anthemn being in Pashtu, our military and other official terms being pashtu etc.

Then why do Afghans flood into Pakistan for money,businsses and for a better life than Afghanistan?

If you love Tajiks and they are your head of your Zra then One can also say Pakistanis are our heads of our hearts.

This is what Afghans are, no different than Pakistanis, you always force good hearted Pashtuns to choose to be ruled by non pashtuns.

Pakistan was made by Indian Mojjahirs and Punjabis, Pakhtunkhwa was already sold out to the British by Afghans.

The heart of Pashtuns being Pakhtunkhwa where majority of Pashtuns make up over 80 percent of the population was sold to the British and now you have Afghans who have the nerve to brainwash us to go against Pakistan and fight for Afghanistani interests and then say to us to Accept Tajiks.

I understand you may love Tajiks since your mashar vror Hekmatyar gave his own daughter to an Tajik but doesnt mean Pashtuns should do that does it.

If Pashtuns of Pakhtunkhwa wanted too, they could boot out Afghans and where will you go then? forget about uniting with Non Pashtuns who speak over 50 percent of Afghanistan as Persian, you should unite as a whole with the other pashtuns who make majority

Kind Regards

Kind Regards

[Zarawar]

then why do afghans flood into pakistan for money,businsses and for a better life than afghanistan?

afghans didn't flood into pakistan for the sake of business. But rather our country was being bombed and 2.5 million people were dead, something our prophet mohammad saw did, called immigration/hijrat, kind of what your fellow tribsmen are doing in paktia, kunar and nangarhar, i.e. Migration in thousands from the pakistani side.. Also, afghans contributed a lot to the pakistani economy, majority of the border cities are run by afghan merchant/money. Not to mention what does this has anything with what i said? Afghanistan is not in a state of competing, we are still in a war.

if you love tajiks and they are your head of your zra then one can also say pakistanis are our heads of our hearts.

thank you, i just wanted you to confess tajiks will remain my zra, not toormakhee da angreez chechian.


pakistan was made by indian mojjahirs and punjabis, pakhtunkhwa was already sold out to the british by afghans.
abdul rahman khan didn't represent afghans, he was a puppet like karzai. I don't blame the people of afghanistan for the decisions karzai has made.

the heart of pashtuns being pakhtunkhwa where majority of pashtuns make up over 80 percent of the population was sold to the british and now you have afghans who have the nerve to brainwash us to go against pakistan and fight for afghanistani interests and then say to us to accept tajiks.

numbers doesn't matter, speak pashtu ka domra nar wey, go speak pashtu in islamabad dalta nar nar ma kega, afghanistan gatal shawai maidan dai, mog khpal tareekh pa weeno lekalai.
i understand you may love tajiks since your mashar vror hekmatyar gave his own daughter to an tajik but doesnt mean pashtuns should do that does it.
Don't get low with me, what you just said is plainly stupid and BEGHAIRATA

If pashtuns of pakhtunkhwa wanted too, they could boot out afghans and where will you go then? Forget about uniting with non pashtuns who speak over 50 percent of afghanistan as persian, you should unite as a whole with the other pashtuns who make majority
again, you just type for the hell of it, you are here to spread disunity between pashtuns. I remember the first time you wrote on my profile, acting all inoccent and pro-pashtun. Zwana chey nar na wey bya pa breto lasona ma waha, bretona serf bretawar tawaawalai shee.
Kind regards

kind regards

you revealed your real self

[Shayesta]

Its not about a name. Its about pashtun domination , getting rid of rivals (panjabis , tajiks).

Remember what one of our legends ever had said?; 'Take out your sword and slay anyone that says Pukhtoons and Afghans ain't the same.' In other words, it is about a name.

I would like to know what a tajik got to do with pakhtunkhwa business.

Same could be said about you and your business regarding Dari in Afghanistan.

awo bala khabara...charta pekhawar ta rasha monga pa urdu ke khabary nako. pa tol pukhtunkhwa ogarza poha ba che.

Taso ham pe tolo Southern Afghanistan ke wogerza, mung ham Dari ke neghagegu. And nor is half of our Pukhto Dari (hint hint) and at least 99% of Tajiks in Pukhtoon dominated areas can speak our language (another hint).

umeed laram che tasu pa pakhtu pohe ge.

Shayad, taso na ham behtar. Pa de ham che pe Europa ke loy shewai yu.

[Michin Khel]

Technically afghanistan is a dari country.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

^ you are under some false impression that Afghanistan is a paradise for pakthuns but sadly it is not. We should stop living in history. We should live today and the realities which surround us. Afghanistan is no longer Pakthun country. It stopped being when AfghanIstani Pakthuns sold themselves to Farsiwan Nd there culture. Sad. Very sad.

Could you please send me these links of info when this happened? I think people are confusing facts. In Afghanistan dari had the upperhand mostly due to pashtuns lack of work on their language and the fact that persian was the lingua franca of the entire region. It was the lingua franca in India (prior to britain), it was the lingua franca in central asia and it was the lingua franca of the courts at least within Afghanistan. Even in Pashtunkhwa (prior to urdu) farsi was usd as the language of education. This is a really simple concept.

[Michin Khel]

Pakistan kho pakhtun mulk na da zaka urdu har zay da. afghaniyan kho dawa kai de afghanistan yo pashtun mulk da,...ka dase khabar da no Pakistan kho pakhtun mulk na da zaka urdu har zay da. afghaniyan kho dawa kai de afghanistan yo pashtun mulk da,...ka dase khabar da no ulta dari pa pashto wale spara da?

[afghan]

you revealed your real self

Sagar wror knew that long ago. i know the people of waziristan they are too proud to go so low. i have known many people from waziristan they are fine pashtun.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

Dari nu mata razi awo na maa nekano ta wartlala nu soch khabara da de har afghanay dari ta wale kona warkai?
Pakistan kho pakhtun mulk na da zaka urdu har zay da. afghaniyan kho dawa kai de afghanistan yo pashtun mulk da,...ka dase khabar da no ulta dari pa pashto wale spara da?

Wrora most of this fault is on pashtuns...despite being the majority we didn't serve pashto as we should have. The issue is our lack of work towards our language, and some of us like to blame another side for it. There has been and is a lot of things in Afghanistan that primarily in pashto such as the army ranks, media, curriculum. However more can be done, and is possible provided we have two important things -> sovereignty and peace.

[Michin Khel]

@Bls

I think we are too much weak people who cant preserve their langauge when they live with other ethnicities, we have proved it. So i think idea of loy pakhtunistan is better than loy afghanistan.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

@Bls

I think we are too much weak people who cant preserve their langauge when they live with other ethnicities, we have proved it. So i think idea of loy pakhtunistan is better than loy afghanistan.

Peera if the fault is within the people than no amount of pure state will protect that. It is essentially condemning yourself. Look at Belarus, they have their own language and independent state but they still mostly speak russian. Their little independent state didn't ensure that either. Loy Afghanistan is in my opinion strategically and demographically our best option. The defense of pashto won't come from a pure or unpure state, that depends on the will of the people and the creativity of administration. Look at the Scots now, they are trying to reclaim their lost language as are the Irish. It is all up to the people. If they didn't have that will no amount of pure scottish or Irish state could ensure that.

[khyaal]

na afghanistan da russia pa shan strong de awo na geographically loy.

pa pakhtunkhwa ke da afghanistan na zyat pukhtana de....

afghanistan nan saba da tajiko watan de. da dari da pukhtu na.

But why you should complain about Afghans when you are anyway a "proud Paaaaaaki Pakhtun".

[BLS_1919v2.0]

na afghanistan da russia pa shan strong de awo na geographically loy.

pa pakhtunkhwa ke da afghanistan na zyat pukhtana de....

afghanistan nan saba da tajiko watan de. da dari da pukhtu na.

Lolzz Sher khan give me proof for this...so far I have only heard talk talk talk, no real proof. If you guys are thinking that the current situation is representative well then let me remind you all turyaalee that the South and east is under war and the north is relatively peaceful. Be logical.

[khyaal]

da **** sa zaroorat nishta.

za pakhtun yam awo sirf pakhtun... nor pukhtana har ze ke shta . da amreke na russia pory.

hagha tapalay Amir Muqam kho hum Pakhtun di. lol

[BLS_1919v2.0]

neme ne zyat khalaq pa ke dari waye. za kho pa demographics warkawolo stary shoma...

ahmed shah masood pa ke hero de.

nor sa waye.. bass de kana

lollzz Ahmad Shah massoud cherta hero dae pa kabul kae pa panjsher kae? Lollzz zaka dartha waemaa zaan na legyaa yae walae che pa Pashtano seemo kae jung dae nu altha mung khabr na yuu. How can you get demographics if your in a warzone? Please be realistic.

[Zarawar]

It's grapes are sour scenario with some....