Pashtuns of Pakistan discussion

[MazloomYarMasud]

Pakistan and Pakistanis is our greatest enemy, we need to know the true face of these back stabbing cowards. This guy is a example of two-facedness of these people.

I agreee

But What about Tajiks and Uzbeks

are they immune to this issue?

Kind Regards

[Azmal]

I agreee

But What about Tajiks and Uzbeks

are they immune to this issue?

Kind Regards

No i do not consider them our enemy, they recently have their own interest which diverge from that of us...you do not see any Tajik or Uzbak that are occupying Pashton land do you? All they want is to rule their own region. Pakistan is the greatest threat to us for its occupation our land, brainwashing our people using Islam as a tool and stealing our resources.

[MazloomYarMasud]

No i do not consider them our enemy, they recently have their own interest which diverge from that of us...you do not see any Tajik or Uzbak that are occupying Pashton land do you? All they want is to rule their own region. Pakistan is the greatest threat to us for its occupation our land, brainwashing our people using Islam as a tool and stealing our resources.

Of course there are tajiks and Uzbak who are occupying Pashtun land.

In Waziristan 100s of Pashtuns have been beheaded, slaughtered and killed by Uzbeks and Tajiks from Afghanistan and other parts of central asia.

Your telling me an Tajik poses absolutely no threat towards Pashtuns?

Nearly every Tajik ive met are extremely Anti Pashtun especially against Pashtuns of Pashtunkhwa.

I know for sure and for a fact that Tajiks will oppose any Pashtun from Pashtunkhwa from joining Afghanistan.

I also Hate Pakistan but I will not start a fight with Pakistan to be occupied by Tajiks and Uzbeks after Pakistans destruction.

I prefer a Pashtun state where these people wont bother us ever again.

Kind Regards

[Shayesta]

Of course there are tajiks and Uzbak who are occupying Pashtun land.

Are they also ruling any Pukhtoon land?

In Waziristan 100s of Pashtuns have been beheaded, slaughtered and killed by Uzbeks and Tajiks from Afghanistan and other parts of central asia.

Then why did the Pakistanis I met in Jalalabad rubbish this statement and called it a lie?

Your telling me an Tajik poses absolutely no threat towards Pashtuns?

Depends on what kind of threat you are talking about.

Nearly every Tajik ive met are extremely Anti Pashtun especially against Pashtuns of Pashtunkhwa.

Not just Pukhtoons or Pakhtunkhwa; They are anti-Pakistan in general and can you even blame them?

I know for sure and for a fact that Tajiks will oppose any Pashtun from Pashtunkhwa from joining Afghanistan.

Even though Pukhtoons of Pakhtunkhwa now are a part of Pakistan, yet, wouldn't they feel anger if Afghanistan was to form a united Persia with Tajikistan and Iran?

I also Hate Pakistan but I will not start a fight with Pakistan to be occupied by Tajiks and Uzbeks after Pakistans destruction.

Uzbeks in Afghanistan are now doomed since their leader Dostum has left them alone and Tajiks are busy working towards unity with Iran and Tajikistan, none of them both is interested in dominating Pukhtoon areas because all they want is life their lives according to themselves. Otherwise, they should be angry at Pukhtoons for snatching their land in North of the country and ruling over them since Nadir Shah regime.

[MazloomYarMasud]

I second maseed.

Very well said wrora.

Roara Jan

Have you noticed how Tajiks cover up their hatred towards Pashtuns by saying Pashtuns are all Taliban.

And whenever there is any suggestion of Pashtun unity of Pashtuns from Pakhtunkhwa, these tajiks protest and oppose it on the grounds of giving Afghan land to Taliban.

Kind Regards

[Zarawar]

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Of course there are tajiks and Uzbak who are occupying Pashtun land.

In Waziristan 100s of Pashtuns have been beheaded, slaughtered and killed by Uzbeks and Tajiks from Afghanistan and other parts of central asia.

Your telling me an Tajik poses absolutely no threat towards Pashtuns?

Nearly every Tajik ive met are extremely Anti Pashtun especially against Pashtuns of Pashtunkhwa..

wrora let's not hide the facts, I've also lived and been to Waziristan,
The uzbeks and other turks fighting the Pakistani army in Waziristan are not of Afghan origin, e.g. Tahir Yuldosh. Their ideologies are not based on unity or Afghanism in first place to start with, they are motivated by hardline-Salafi style independence. They belong to countries like Uzbekistan, Turkeministan, Azerbaijan, Turkey and Chechnya. You cannot blame Afghans for something they are not, and they haven't done.

I know for sure and for a fact that Tajiks will oppose any Pashtun from Pashtunkhwa from joining Afghanistan.

That's why the outcome is going to shut them up (i.e. the formation of Loy Afghanistan), once there are 40+ million pashtuns united under one banner, one name and one aim. The Tajiks, even if they oppose our unity, have no choice but to live with it or face the consequences.

I also Hate Pakistan but I will not start a fight with Pakistan to be occupied by Tajiks and Uzbeks after Pakistans destruction.

You are putting yourself in a spot for no reason, no one is under no one's occupation. You looking at Pashtuns of Afghanistan being occupied by the minority is your own misunderstanding. You cannot generalize the entire political matter base on stereotypes like, language equality and etc.
Once upon a time, Pashtu being weak in kabul has nothing to do with an occupation. There is a difference between the Pashtuns of Pashtunkhwa, living under the OCCUPATION of british/Pakistan, to that of Pashtu dying out as the official language of Afghanistan.
Pashtu getting weak as an official language has nothing to do with Tajiks and Uzbeks, it's our own fault. Just because we let go off pashtu doesn't mean we are occupied by Tajiks and Uzbeks. In fact, they (the minority ethnic groups of Afghanistan) view their selves occupied by Pashtuns (Afghanism ideology)


I prefer a Pashtun state where these people wont bother us ever again.

Geographicaly, Impossible, Unless we were the Alexander of this times, i.e. pack the minorities up and deport them outside Afghanistan borders, or start slaying them, which we are not obviously.
Kind Regards

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[MazloomYarMasud]

Are they also ruling any Pukhtoon land?


Why did the Waziris I met in Jalalabad rubbished this statement and called it a lie?


Depends on what kind of threat you are talking about.


Not just Pukhtoons or Pakhtunkhwa; They are anti-Pakistan in general and can you even blame them?


Even though Pukhtoons of Pakhtunkhwa now are a part of Pakistan, yet, wouldn't they feel anger if Afghanistan was to form a united Persia with Tajikistan and Iran?


Uzbeks in Afghanistan are now doomed since their leader Dostum has left them alone and Tajiks are busy working towards unity with Iran and Tajikistan, none of them both is interested in dominating Pukhtoon areas because all they want is life their lives according to themselves. Otherwise, they should be angry at Pukhtoons for snatching their land in North of the country and ruling over them since Nadir Shah regime.

First of all

Ask your Wazir friends in Jalalabad why did Wazirs raise a Lashkar and booted uzbeks/Tajiks out of Wana,South Waziristan in 2008?

Uzbek Militants have killed way over 200 tribal maliks and have abused and killed many pashtuns in waziristan.

http://spaces.brad.ac.uk:8080/downlo...Waziristan.pdf

Secondly Tajiks are Anti Pashtun and rule over Afghanistan and what makes you think they will accept Pashtuns of Pashtunkhwa?

Tajiks are only anti pakistan because ISI betrayed their emir Ahmad Shah Masood.

Tajiks have even suggested sending all Pashtuns back to Israel/Pakistan.

Again this is typical of most Afghans always blaiming the Pashtuns for everything.

Listen up, the solution is very simple! Forget about Afghanistan and Pakistan and work to make a Pashtun state or is letting go of Hazaara,Tajik and Uzbek land too much for you?

[Zarawar]

I prefer a Pashtun state where these people wont bother us ever again.

I wrote on your profile, geographically, impossible.
Kind Regards

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[Saifullah]

Its not about forgetting about this land or that. Our people are dying, starving and suffering. They are not in a position of power to take over lands or give up lands...i think at the moment you can just advise people to fear Allah and be just! Stop the bad practices in our society. Our problem is that we think about the last step and forget the small steps towards that..

[MazloomYarMasud]

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Where have u lived in Waziristan and when?

Tell me village or city or whatever?

Have you been to Miram Shah Market and seen your fellow Afghan Talibs there, what about the Haqqani militia, i guess you missed them as well eh?

I have seen with my own eyes the savaery of Afghans in Waziristan.

Of course i blaime Afghans for everything

Were the Peshawer 7 Afghans or were they Pakistanis?

Kind Regards

[Zarawar]

DUDE!
you are blaming Afghanistan for something Tohir Yo`ldosh has done, he is FROM UZBEKISTAN

[MazloomYarMasud]

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how it is impossible?

Nothing is Impossible

No Pashtun of Pakhtunkhwa will join current Afghanistan.

Afghanistan as a state is a failure. The Only other Option is a Pashtun state and if you cant grasp that with all your excuses to support this non sense Lar o bar Afghan and live with Tajiks rule and Dari dominance then maybe you have a difference motive.

Nokia Warned me of such people who will work to demise the dreams of a Pashtun state so we can be slaves of Dari zubans and Punjabi Zubans.

Was Afghanistan geographically impossible when it was made?

Kind Regards

[MazloomYarMasud]

DUDE!
you are blaming Afghanistan for something Tohir Yo`ldosh has done, he is FROM UZBEKISTAN

But from which country did he run away from when America attacked?

[Saifullah]

But from which country did he run away from when America attacked?

Does it matter? Anywayz why u being like those Afghans who blame ISI for every single thing? Now you blaming Uzbeks for everything...Come on..

[MazloomYarMasud]

Does it matter? Anywayz why u being like those Afghans who blame ISI for every single thing? Now you blaming Uzbeks for everything...Come on..

Well if you had a brain or any knowledge of the current situation instead of scaring us with Allahs name then you would know that 2000 uzbeks are in Waziristan and they have killed and harmed many pashtuns there with their brutal and mongolian habits.

I blaime all of them and even Pashtuns.

ISI,Afghan Peshawer 7, Religionous Bigots, Tajiks etc and weak pashtuns

are all to be blaimed.

We should fight for a Pashtun state and not be part of Pakistan or Afghanistan.

We need to let go of our ego past and look to the future.

Kind Regards