Pashtuns of Pakistan discussion

[Zarawar]

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Here is a good video for you.

lol it was uploaded to youtube in 2007, god knows when is it from. Also, how hard is it to find a singer that is going to deny being on PTV? Also, just because someone knows or can sing in Pashtu doesn't mean he/she's a pashtun. Millions of Hindkowan claim to be Pashtuns also..
We never denied the fact that we once used to chant pro-pakistan slogans...but that's not the case any more. This whole disturbance amongst the Pashtun community of Pashtunkhwa started recently. You cannot post videos of 90s and 80s, assuming we can compare those videos with what's going on right now....Here is another one, our fore fore fathers came from the present day Waziristan, does that mean I should declare myself a Pakistani? because Waziristan happens to be in Pakistan?
NO!
in fact, I want you to look at me as an example of millions other pashtuns who does not want to be associated with Pakistanism.

[Zarawar]

@ Army of British:

Here is another one for you, this is how your so called Pakistan army is looked at, from Pashtun prospective:

YouTube - Urdu; soldier of napak army jumma khan baloach

and when your done watching that, spare a moment check this one also:
YouTube - Amir of tehreek e taliban pakistan leading an attack
and then this is how they (**** army) surrender to local tribesmen:

YouTube - Pakistani Army surrender to Taliban in Waziristan 4 Dec 09

[Zarawar]

Watch the last video, until the end....it's gets even more interesting.

[Army of Pakistan]

Last time I checked, the army was depending on the government

How do you figure this, Army and Government are attempting to work side by side now.

and the government was hooked with US taxpayers money. Oh and speaking of histories, when was the last time Pakistan went through a chaos like this?

And your government does not need aid and is an economic center of the world?

Pakistan neverwent through chaos like this but since it aligned itself with U.S. this started happening. You are misconstruing the facts to better suit your agenda.

When was the last time, ISI officials were kidnapped by the NDS proxies called "Asian Tigers", which later on resulted in execution of Khalid khwaja (senior ISI offiical).

I can quote 1000x more how how Afghan officals were kidnapped, murdered by Taliban, etc. So there is no need to be nitty-picky.

When was the last time urdu was baned in public eduation system in Balochistan? Do you really think Pakistanis run Pakistan? NO!

Baloch only number ~6.5 million in Pakistan. The seperatists are of no concern.

Anyways, record number of Balochs are joining Pakistan's Army. Have a look.

http://afghanistan.blogs.cnn.com/201...ency-strategy/

Also, when was the last time you heard remote control planes (DRONES) being controlled from air force bases in Arizona, that continously bombed the so called "Great Pakistan". Pakistan is not even capable of stopping drone attacks that is killing nothing but ordinary citizens. And, yet you have the courage to portray this "Macho man" image of Pakistan?

Actually the drone's are launched from Balochistan in cooperation with Pak's Army/ISI. Government just lied to keep people's support (as most have negative view of U.S.). Pak Army would have shot down the drones if they were really against them. Pakistan is not Afghanistan, we have SAMs.

The armed, unmanned planes take off from a base inside Pakistani Baluchistan known as "Rhine."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100706/...s_cia_pakistan

About 500 U.S. Military personell are stationed in Pakistan, for training Pak's paramilitary, security assistance, etc.

[Army of Pakistan]

Ayub I agree people shouldn`t curse or sideline the argument. However Army of Pakistan history here warrants it. He or she came to this forum and started posted all sorts of things here, he wanted to be the defender of the state. Well as of now he or she has been continually shut out and sidelined. That isn`t our fault, you got to call people out on their garbage posts. Army of Pakistan isn`t the first btw.

You people pray on the ignorance of others just to further your agenda, and yes you have an abduance of ignorance to feed upon, I'm sure you already know this. If any garbage that needs to be sidelined it needs to be the posts that emanate from your type of people.

[Army of Pakistan]

lol it was uploaded to youtube in 2007, god knows when is it from. Also, how hard is it to find a singer that is going to deny being on PTV? Also, just because someone knows or can sing in Pashtu doesn't mean he/she's a pashtun. Millions of Hindkowan claim to be Pashtuns also..
We never denied the fact that we once used to chant pro-pakistan slogans...but that's not the case any more. This whole disturbance amongst the Pashtun community of Pashtunkhwa started recently. You cannot post videos of 90s and 80s, assuming we can compare those videos with what's going on right now....Here is another one, our fore fore fathers came from the present day Waziristan, does that mean I should declare myself a Pakistani? because Waziristan happens to be in Pakistan?
NO!
in fact, I want you to look at me as an example of millions other pashtuns who does not want to be associated with Pakistanism.

Ok here is a NEW one for you.





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[Master Khan]

Here is a good video for you.

What a disgress

[Master Khan]

Army of Pakistan just admit you are not pashtun.

[Zarawar]

And your government does not need aid and is an economic center of the world?

I never said anything about my government, as a matter of fact I don't even represent my government because it's not 100 % independent. You are representing your government up to extreme ( @ Army of Pakistan). And, proof me wrong that Pakistani government is not occupied and controlled by the US. Therefore, you shouldn't even mention the current government to me, I'm not a part of it, I represent Afghanistan not a group of people.



Pakistan neverwent through chaos like this but since it aligned itself with U.S. this started happening. You are misconstruing the facts to better suit your agenda.



I can quote 1000x more how how Afghan officals were kidnapped, murdered by Taliban, etc. So there is no need to be nitty-picky.


Again, I don't represent or even agree with the current government, in that case you are the one representing PAKISTAN ARMY.



Baloch only number ~6.5 million in Pakistan. The seperatists are of no concern.

Trust me, that's 7 + million baloch all together with the ones in Afghanistan, not panjabies. That's thousands of Sarmachars that are ready to die for the love of their land. Also, the number doesn't matter to anyone, thats 6.5 million Balochan residing in the LARGEST PROVINCE of PAKISTAN, right next to Pashtuns that are no less pro-Afghan nationalist than the Balochs. Balochistan being the largest province of Pakistan is enriched with natural resources and minerals (SUI gas). Believe it or not, there are villages and areas in Balochistan where the natural gas doesn't even have the pipe system install to start with. Whereas, SUI gas is found in every corner of Pakistan...





Actually the drone's are launched from Balochistan in cooperation with Pak's Army/ISI. Government just lied to keep people's support (as most have negative view of U.S.). Pak Army would have shot down the drones if they were really against them. Pakistan is not Afghanistan, we have SAMs.

Exactly, again you just proved my point, the drones are launched from Balochistan, controlled from Arizona, and while the ISI is doing the spy work...
Oh and what is SAMs? Is that suppose to be something that intimidates the American drones (let alone their sophisticated air power), nice try.



About 500 U.S. Military personell are stationed in Pakistan, for training Pak's paramilitary, security assistance,

That's what they tell you (training), they will go there regardless, the training excuse is just to shut the Pakistani government and media up.

[Zarawar]

Disclaimer: This article might not be suitable for all audiences. Readers discretion is advised.


Pakistan may rank 1st on these keywords. And porn may be popular in Pakistan. Pakistan is NOT “No. 1 Nation in Sexy Web Searches” as claimed by Fox News.


Pakistan is top dog in searches per-person for “horse sex” since 2004, “donkey sex” since 2007, “rape pictures” between 2004 and 2009, “rape sex” since 2004, “child sex” between 2004 and 2007 and since 2009, “animal sex” since 2004 and “dog sex” since 2005, according to Google Trends and Google Insights, features of Google that generate data based on popular search terms.

It’s funny how they mentioned keywords are few of the least popular keywords when it comes to pornography. Below is the image of comparison of these keywords along with other major keywords related to pornography like “sex”, “porn”, “big tits”



If you have a look at the image, the search volume for keyword “sex” is FAR more than other keywords. Keyword “Porn” has the 2nd highest search volume. Followed by “big tits” and then there is this little search volume for “rape sex” and “horse sex” which you might spot with a magnifying glass.

NOW we have an understanding that other keywords consume much largely to porn searches, let’s now have a look at their traffic distribution.

Regional traffic for “Sex”:




Regional traffic for “Porn”:





Regional traffic for “Big tits”:




I don’t see Pakistan occurring even in the top 10 regions here. It’s a ridiculous how Fox news has refereed to a country as Pornistan just to sell off their papers. The stunt they played is exactly like referring to Pakistan as “Number 1 nation in music searches” since it ranks number 1 on keyword “Sufi Music”!




Just to add further, as per FoxNews’ formula, whole of United States of America is wildest nation as a whole – see following:








I don't see Pakistan at #1 in 'sex'. Here's what I see:

There is a pashtu saying for this "Da ghla pa geera khas"

[BLS_1919v2.0]

In Pakistan's case you WILL need to stand to the Army. As I said previously Government and Army/ISI mostly do not work side by side.



How destabalizing the government? More recently you may point to ousting of Nawaz Sharif, well he had to go; Pakistan was on the brink of bankruptcy and sadly stupid people still support him, or the Bhuttos. This is how Pakistan is screwed up. Pakistan needs to place an emphasis on education and work on helping the poor.



Yes some parts of this "monster" not ALL parts.

Pakistan economy is doing better. Once Pakistan is admitted to SCO, the Islamabad-Tehran-Istanbul railway is fully functioning this will do wonders. Not to mention Pakistan is seeking buyers for its JF-17. Time is of the essence.

First thing is first. You don`t even know your own country`s history. When I said there are more muslims within India than Pakistan, I am not talking about the small urdu speaking population. I am talking about the partition of British India and the subsequent areas that went to either country. In that context, Pakistan is outnumbered in terms of muslims in comparison to India. So that is that.

Look, Army of Pakistan, I already discussed this. That is the irony of Pakistan, every time the army has stepped in, it has made it worse off than before. Look at all the coups, they were followed with some stability and then blunders. Ayub Khan the 65 debacle (operation gibralter), Army intervention in East Pakistan - 90,000 soldiers depanted (if Bengalis could do it, whom Pakistan army used to consider dark skinned and too short or too weak to be part of the army, then what makes you think others can`t?), Zia ul haq - 90s and onwards, Musharraf (tribal areas, balochistan, economy, etc). Well you are right they need to put emphasis on education, but then go read Ayesha Siqqidui`s Army Inc...she clearly discusses the fact that the Army takes the lion share of resources and industries. More money is put into the military than education. Now by your account Pakistan has not succeeded on the Kashmiri front, and India is too large of a country to fight Pakistan, so is there really a point to have such expenditure on the armed forces?

Loll those some part of the monsters is enough to make Zaid Hamid and army send thousands upon thousands of troops to specific regions. How many more thousands when other parts start attacking on their one time master?

Look, pakistan economy is not even close to good, and that railway will not help. It was on the brink of insolvency a few years ago, until IMF bailed it out. Now if you look at it in the context of the greater financial system, it is very susceptible to shocks. Look at it this way, your prime exporting partner (US) is also suffering in an ongoing financial collapse. If it is further exasperated, what do you think will happen to Pakistan (for that matter the rest of the world)? What will happen to the value of the Ruppee if say the dollar loses reserve status? Better yet, the last time the financial crisis hit, Pakistan needed upwards of 100 million just to keep it afloat. What will it do in the future?

P.S. About weapons, hey good for you, some people are buying jf-17s. Guess what nearly half the world used to buy Soviet weaponry, it is still traded in the black market. Your point is?

[Army of Pakistan]

I never said anything about my government, as a matter of fact I don't even represent my government because it's not 100 % independent. You are representing your government up to extreme ( @ Army of Pakistan). And, proof me wrong that Pakistani government is not occupied and controlled by the US. Therefore, you shouldn't even mention the current government to me, I'm not a part of it, I represent Afghanistan not a group of people.

Afghanistan is 0% independent.

I fail to see how you figure Pakistan is controlled by the U.S. If U.S. is giving billions in weapons (f-16 jets, smartbombs, helicopters, warships) it is automatically being controlled by the U.S. Pakistan is a Major non-Nato Ally. Billion in aids. Something Karzai begged Obama for Afghanistan to be apart of but was DENIED. Perhaps Pakistan is controlled by China for the support they give Pakistan or Indonesia because of the recent military cooperation treaty signed by each country, or Turkey for standing besides Pakistan no matter what, or Italy for recently selling its Spada SAMs to Pakistan, or Poland for selling its air tankers to Pakistan. By your definition of "being controlled" everybody in the world is controlling Pakistan.

Trust me, that's 7 + million baloch all together with the ones in Afghanistan, not panjabies. That's thousands of Sarmachars that are ready to die for the love of their land. Also, the number doesn't matter to anyone, thats 6.5 million Balochan residing in the LARGEST PROVINCE of PAKISTAN, right next to Pashtuns that are no less pro-Afghan nationalist than the Balochs. Balochistan being the largest province of Pakistan is enriched with natural resources and minerals (SUI gas). Believe it or not, there are villages and areas in Balochistan where the natural gas doesn't even have the pipe system install to start with. Whereas, SUI gas is found in every corner of Pakistan...

Once you crawl out of your naive world and realize that Punjabis aren't the only ones that hate Afghans. After all Zardar is Sindhi (by your standards a Punjabi) and he hates Afghanistan so tell me WHO LIKES AFGHANISTAN?

Name one country where an Afghan can travel and will be openly loved for beign an Afghan? NAME ONE NATION. Pakistanis can go to Turkey and just the mere mention of being a Pakistani they will be LOVED. Can you say the same for any nation?

Afghanistan has half a million Balochs and Iran has 1.5 million Balochs. Why didn't you include Iranian Balochs? I see you people like to suck up to Iranians..Do you know Iranians passionately hate Afghans? Do you have any idea of how the Iranians treat Afghans Iran?? Hint: Dirt.

Exactly, again you just proved my point, the drones are launched from Balochistan, controlled from Arizona, and while the ISI is doing the spy work...

What point? Lol, don't try to take credit for nothing you know of.

Oh and what is SAMs? Is that suppose to be something that intimidates the American drones (let alone their sophisticated air power), nice try.

Pakistan is no Iraq or Afghanistan. You are ranting nonsensically without actually posting anything of use.

That's what they tell you (training), they will go there regardless, the training excuse is just to shut the Pakistani government and media up.

Stay in school.

[Army of Pakistan]

Army of Pakistan,
You were already caught lieing when you shamelessly stated Pakistans internet users are just roughly below 8million and now you are spreading false propaganda here.

Pashtuns and Pakistan don't go along together its a mere contradiction that is not hard to realize. Pashtuns are Afghans, they are not indic race. Pashtuns had and still have a historical connection with Afghanistan. Even today in their Pakistani domicles they are listed as "Afghans" not as any other ethnicity.

no one cares what you have to say.

[Master Khan]

Army of Pakistan I must admit Jinnah did a good job removing us from India but He wasn't really a muslim in my eyes.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

no one cares what you have to say.

There is no need for that. We all care what Jamie khor has to say.