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I always try to forget what kind of barbaric acts are happening in Iraq and Syria, but thanks for reminding me.
And by the way it really is too simplistic to say that ISIS is just a reactionary movement becuase of shia crimes, becuase lets not forget that Sadam was a sunni who opressed shia for decades, after his fall afcourse discrimination from the shia accured, but it was not the same what ISIS is doing now, the pictures you show are what Shia millitias are doing after what ISIS has done. I condem all the people who did this horrible thing, but as a sunni I cannot close my eyes to the crimes that other sunnis did and I don't see ISIS as a group of victims, that seeks revenge, becuase they are not.
And I think sunnis should stop defending inhumane practises, after all we are all muslims, be it shia or sunni.
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Originally posted by Khostai View PostI always try to forget what kind of barbaric acts are happening in Iraq and Syria, but thanks for reminding me.
And by the way it really is too simplistic to say that ISIS is just a reactionary movement becuase of shia crimes, becuase lets not forget that Sadam was a sunni who opressed shia for decades, after his fall afcourse discrimination from the shia accured, but it was not the same what ISIS is doing now, the pictures you show are what Shia millitias are doing after what ISIS has done. I condem all the people who did this horrible thing, but as a sunni I cannot close my eyes to the crimes that other sunnis did and I don't see ISIS as a group of victims, that seeks revenge, becuase they are not.
And I think sunnis should stop defending inhumane practises, after all we are all muslims, be it shia or sunni.
You need to learn how to read. Nobody is saying Isis and their atrocities are entirely caused by Shiites.
People who join Isis have various reasons to do so. These crimes committed by Shiites are part of those reasons.
Besides, I agree, Saddam did oppress Shiites. But he also oppressed Sunni Arabs and Kurds. In fact, when he decided to attack Kuwait and Saudi he didn't do it because he hated Shia. He was against all religious sects. He only favored secular Arab nationalists.
Besides, it is known fact that the leadership of Isis are all former employees of Saddam.Originally posted by FirdousiNever talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.
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So what is the end game? neither IS or the Shia militias are going to disappear, both have been bred in part by the others sects mistreatment of the other. Unfortunately for Iraq, I don't see how any of this will end.There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.
Sayyid Qutb
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The end game? Isis and Shiites are not the players. They are merely the consequence of decisions made by the real players: America, Saudi, Iran and Syria.Originally posted by randolph85 View PostSo what is the end game? neither IS or the Shia militias are going to disappear, both have been bred in part by the others sects mistreatment of the other. Unfortunately for Iraq, I don't see how any of this will end.
Most common people are too stupid to see the bigger picture. For as long as there is no viable equilibrium of power, regional actors will continue to take steps which will cause blood shed.Originally posted by FirdousiNever talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.
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I am not just talking about the armed struggle on both sides, although its harder to stop it than to start it, I was getting at the social condition.Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View PostThe end game? Isis and Shiites are not the players. They are merely the consequence of decisions made by the real players: America, Saudi, Iran and Syria.
Most common people are too stupid to see the bigger picture. For as long as there is no viable equilibrium of power, regional actors will continue to take steps which will cause blood shed.
If all armed hostility were to cease today, the social cohesion of Iraq is broken. I don't see the unity of Iraq even if there is no conflict any more than I see Salman and Khamenei making out.There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.
Sayyid Qutb
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