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    Yes genius, the said topic has been up before, however subsequent derailing by members such as Soldat-Amir meaning 'Leader of the soldiers' in Russian&German quickly got dubbed Soldout-Amir (for obvious reasons).. his types ruined any type of discussion with the "Whats this got to do with Pashtuns BS and "why so concerned with Arabs!? look whats happening in Afg! Pak!" rhetoric .. Ok, fair point but last i checked all us humans share the same planet, what happens in one part of the world effects us all in one way or another. People like to talk about A-Z but shutdown any form of critical discussion regarding this conflict.

    Where do you stand on this issue? what comes to mind when you hear the word Zionist or Israel? are the Muslims in Palestine really just savages that want to kill kill kill unless they are subjugated to an apartheid and treated as inmates in giant ghetto-like prisons? Is Israel the so called "only democracy in the middle east" a civilized state? .. my person view point is that Israel has achieved a lot economically and democratically for its own people but its also a very blood thirsty racist nation that has, is and will openly continue to persecute people for its own gains. Can somebody prove me wrong? we're all learning, lets have a neutral discussion here. On one hand we have proud Israeli PF members posting material in favor of Israel.. we have Islamopheobes that jump onto the bandwagon of anything they can..There's clearly an elephant in the room. Post material, links if you wish.

    I'd like to start with sharing this video, what are your thoughts on this:

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    *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

    Originally posted by Karachi
    like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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    I am a Realist. Compare Israel and Palestine in reality and you will find the difference you find between US and Somalia. Israel may be an abuser but so were Arabs who started from Mecca and Madina and conquered the whole known world at that time. Poor Jews could have only one small homeland while Arabs have many.

    Israel is a success story. Palestine is a failure. Israel even now recognized by Arabs and others while poor Palestine sis struggling hard to be recognized. There was a time that Arabs used to refuse to recognize Israel but now Palestine entreat Israel to recognize it. The game is over for Palestine. Israel is a reality. Accept it and live with it. Forget about moral questions. Just meet the reality. Two nations is the best solution.

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    • #3
      Israel and Arabs are not different at all, they are all the same and treat each other the say way

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Badlun View Post
        I am a Realist. Compare Israel and Palestine in reality and you will find the difference you find between US and Somalia. Israel may be an abuser but so were Arabs who started from Mecca and Madina and conquered the whole known world at that time. Poor Jews could have only one small homeland while Arabs have many.

        Israel is a success story. Palestine is a failure. Israel even now recognized by Arabs and others while poor Palestine sis struggling hard to be recognized. There was a time that Arabs used to refuse to recognize Israel but now Palestine entreat Israel to recognize it. The game is over for Palestine. Israel is a reality. Accept it and live with it. Forget about moral questions. Just meet the reality. Two nations is the best solution.
        like you said: Israel may BE an abuser (present tense) so WERE Arabs who started from Mecca (your talking about acts in 2015 to what ancient civilisations did a thousand years ago). Well atleast we've established your logic on this topic.

        You admit Israel is an abuser but call them a success story, be a little humane, osho would never call an abuser successful.
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        *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

        Originally posted by Karachi
        like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Manzareh View Post
          like you said: Israel may BE an abuser (present tense) so WERE Arabs who started from Mecca (your talking about acts in 2015 to what ancient civilisations did a thousand years ago). Well atleast we've established your logic on this topic.

          You admit Israel is an abuser but call them a success story, be a little humane, osho would never call an abuser successful.
          Only me who says f*ck both arabs and jews? Hope they destroy each other in a faster pace.

          Long Live Pashtun tribes.
          To Paradise, with Pakhto, I will go.

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