How to get rid of Akhwanis and Islamists

[DSM0305]

This works only if the government is purely democratic and if you are not a minority.

I know that, but SK asked how we defined modern. And this is my definition of modern. Many atheist/secularist believes that modernism is based on how short ones skirt is, but it is far from how I define modern. For me personally, modern is a way of thinking. Ones mindset should be focused/determined on progression.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

by modern I mean the way the education system is set in the west, of course we can do it more in a Islamic setting, but it's about time muslims get some real education. Lets be honest 90% of them are illiterate and like you say most muslims do not follow Islam either, education will also help them understand Islam better because education opens the mind, this is why west is so ahead, because they have education

Well, if thats what you mean by modern, then I agree, we do need that kind of modernization.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Its you who lives in a cave mentally. Do you still believe that most scientists are atheists and that atheism will take you to the moon and mars or did I open up your mind to reality. A jahil is someone who does not take advantage of the education that is available to him/her.

Whats hilarious about "Paint me White Boy" is that he prides himself on understanding and knowing the field of DNA analysis/genetic analysis etc.

Yet the Father of the Human Genome Project is Francis Collins, a man I had the privilege of reporting to during a mentored project and who signed a copy of his book pre-release for my wife and me at the end of my time with him:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/questionofgod/voices/collins.html

No one knows better than Dr. Francis Collins how easy it might be for scientists to play God. As the director of the National Human Genome Research Institute since 1993 — what some call the most prestigious job in science — Collins has led the effort to decode human DNA, along the way developing a revolutionary method of screening genes for disease. Yet according to this widely respected scientist, the newfound power to "read our own instruction book" is no obstacle to faith in the existence of God. He converted from atheism to Christianity in his twenties after seeing how radically his patients' faith transformed their experience of suffering, and after reading several works by C.S. Lewis. Some 30 years later, he stands by his convictions, positioning science not as substitute for theology, but as a subset of it. Here, Collins traces out his personal path to God, and explains how his faith affects his work. What follows is an edited transcript of an interview conducted for the making of The Question of God.

Here is his famed book:

http://www.amazon.com/The-Language-God-Scientist-Presents/dp/1416542744

Should my story be questioned, I can scan the autographed page and send to Admin Khan for confirmation.

These people are hilarious - its like debating with a failed Cockroach - one of his antenna is cut off so hes crawling in circles at a local lavatory.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

The only thing the West has accomplished is economic prowess and they did that by pillaging and looting.

Oh, and hes now NIH director:

http://www.nih.gov/about/director/

LOOOOOL. Its fun watching these guys squirm from time to time - the most entertaining thing about the fundamentalist secularist militants and some of their near acolytes is the most glaring contradictions in dealing with them, namely, they talk a big game about education and modernity but the ones who talk the loudest are hardly accomplished. They have to rely on some political job, affiliation, etc. to make their life worth meaning something.

In recent years, they have begun to even notice this in places like Turkey and have lamented that a religious Anatolian middle class has produced Doctors, Lawyers, Engineers, Scientists etc. So what they did was propose, according to Fatma Seggie, various measures to

Hinder the success of Islamists....Yeliz elaborated on how the policy could prevent Islamist women from taking an active part in society in the long run... The aim of the policy is to hinder the success of Islamists... The best and easiest way to achieve this goal is to prevent Islamists from attending higher education...they have not found a way for Islamist men yet.

https://books.google.com/books?id=UarIAAAAQBAJ&pg=PA90&lpg=PA90&dq=turkey+islamists+education+stop&source=bl&ots=91wV4WAHxD&sig=6Edf02A0oVlHxJA4bRVrxJXCDp4&hl=en&sa=X&ei=IlZiVdbUKoucyATu-IGwBQ&ved=0CCUQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=turkey%20islamists%20education%20stop&f=false

The reason is, most of them are busy getting drunk, getting venereal diseases, and wasting their time serving some sort of caucasoid "hero."

So they have to pull a stabbing move like this (they are like the uber perv retard Commodus) figuratively by trying to somehow claim that people who follow Islam should be banned from getting higher education since they themselves failed in the very design they hoisted onto people:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpbuTeAuJWA

[Toramana]

Akhwanis, Mullahs, Talebs, ISIS are the s*c*u*m/s*h*i*t of the earth-closed minded humanoids that belong to 7th Century than 21st Century. It is bad that a post-modern state like America is tolerating these poisonous snake amidst its populaces. But then America takes advantage of this filth as a strategic asset by using it to destabilise independent minded societies to install pro-American regimes.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Minority sect derived washed up communists/marxists and subversives and crypto alcoholics are the smegma of the earth - kluver bucy disease patients that belong in the Hague for fellating first the Russians and now ISAF. It is bad enough that the majority and moderates of the world tolerate these poisonous crypto fascists amidst the population. But then the West takes advantage of this filth as a strategic asset to usurp democratic elections and install pro Western regimes.

[khushal]

Oh, and hes now NIH director:

http://www.nih.gov/about/director/

LOOOOOL. Its fun watching these guys squirm from time to time - the most entertaining thing about the fundamentalist secularist militants and some of their near acolytes is the most glaring contradictions in dealing with them, namely, they talk a big game about education and modernity but the ones who talk the loudest are hardly accomplished. They have to rely on some political job, affiliation, etc. to make their life worth meaning something.

In recent years, they have begun to even notice this in places like Turkey and have lamented that a religious Anatolian middle class has produced Doctors, Lawyers, Engineers, Scientists etc. So what they did was propose, according to Fatma Seggie, various measures to

https://books.google.com/books?id=UarIAAAAQBAJ&pg=PA90&lpg=PA90&dq=turkey+islamists+education+stop&source=bl&ots=91wV4WAHxD&sig=6Edf02A0oVlHxJA4bRVrxJXCDp4&hl=en&sa=X&ei=IlZiVdbUKoucyATu-IGwBQ&ved=0CCUQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=turkey%20islamists%20education%20stop&f=false

The reason is, most of them are busy getting drunk, getting venereal diseases, and wasting their time serving some sort of caucasoid "hero."

So they have to pull a stabbing move like this (they are like the uber perv retard Commodus) figuratively by trying to somehow claim that people who follow Islam should be banned from getting higher education since they themselves failed in the very design they hoisted onto people:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpbuTeAuJWA

Thanks for the book wrora. I will use that in my arsenal to awaken minds.

Ataturk was instrumental in erasing the history of his people by adopting the Roman script and making the new generation illiterate in their history which was written in Arabic script.. He rewrote the Turkish history as he wanted people to see it. These militant secularists are quick to condemn ISIS for destroying historical artifacts but they praise Ataturk for doing the exact same thing. Real hypocrites.

[Karachi]

Whats hilarious about "Paint me White Boy" is that he prides himself on understanding and knowing the field of DNA analysis/genetic analysis etc.

Yet the Father of the Human Genome Project is Francis Collins, a man I had the privilege of reporting to during a mentored project and who signed a copy of his book pre-release for my wife and me at the end of my time with him:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/questionofgo...s/collins.html



Here is his famed book:

http://www.amazon.com/The-Language-G.../dp/1416542744


Should my story be questioned, I can scan the autographed page and send to Admin Khan for confirmation.

These people are hilarious - its like debating with a failed Cockroach - one of his antenna is cut off so hes crawling in circles at a local lavatory.

what does believing in God have to do with anything? I believe in God, even Toramana who started this thread believes in God. Our argument is not against God, our argument is against extremists who use religion to justify their evil doings in the world, it is against them. You are part of the extremists, and this is why you make lies against people, you support Taliban, even though they kill so many innocent people, I have never supported USA or Israel in their evil doings, so not sure what are you talking about

[Karachi]

Akhwanis, Mullahs, Talebs, ISIS are the s*c*u*m/s*h*i*t of the earth-closed minded humanoids that belong to 7th Century than 21st Century. It is bad that a post-modern state like America is tolerating these poisonous snake amidst its populaces. But then America takes advantage of this filth as a strategic asset by using it to destabilise independent minded societies to install pro-American regimes.

Exactly, yet these idiots think we are some american puppets, we know America is also evil like them.

These guys kneel infront of ISI or Saudis who have done so much evil in this world, they have no shame in doing that, they dont even know that they are the american puppets

[Khostai]

Exactly, yet these idiots think we are some american puppets, we know America is also evil like them.

These guys kneel infront of ISI or Saudis who have done so much evil in this world, they have no shame in doing that, they dont even know that they are the american puppets

You know the saing, that nothing in the world is more dangerous than idiots who think to know the truth.

[Khostai]

Thanks for the book wrora. I will use that in my arsenal to awaken minds.

Ataturk was instrumental in erasing the history of his people by adopting the Roman script and making the new generation illiterate in their history which was written in Arabic script.. He rewrote the Turkish history as he wanted people to see it. These militant secularists are quick to condemn ISIS for destroying historical artifacts but they praise Ataturk for doing the exact same thing. Real hypocrites.

Idiot, Turks still could learn arabic script, they still have all of the Qurans in Arabic script, even now Turkish people learn arabic script to read the Quran. And majority of Turkey was illiterate so except the elite and some citie dwelers nobody could read or write. If 90% of Turkey was literate Attaturk would not even bother introducing roman script. But you idiots would do anything to justify your ISIS and taliban apes. Please stop worshiping the devil.

[Khostai]

Minority sect derived washed up communists/marxists and subversives and crypto alcoholics are the smegma of the earth - kluver bucy disease patients that belong in the Hague for fellating first the Russians and now ISAF. It is bad enough that the majority and moderates of the world tolerate these poisonous crypto fascists amidst the population. But then the West takes advantage of this filth as a strategic asset to usurp democratic elections and install pro Western regimes.

Janitors are so funny. Do you learn those jokes from other janitors while cleaning the toilets in the Hospital?

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Janitors are so funny. Do you learn those jokes from other janitors while cleaning the toilets in the Hospital?

Coming from a guy who complained about failing out of a university (aka You) - Id say Khaista the dancing Paisha will be the a constant presence in the Amsterdam red light district.... Business men around the world will get sample "retard" bait.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

what does believing in God have to do with anything?

You were the one trying to correlate scientific prowess with a lack of belief; you failed.

I believe in God, even Toramana who started this thread believes in God.

He's a former communist adherent - the likelyhood is nill.

Our argument is not against God, our argument is against extremists who use religion to justify their evil doings in the world,

This is why you are trying to your best to change your name to Frank and paint yourself white - the preponderance of evidence, by all the experts boils down to one thing - its the violence that creates the extremists - not the other way around. Scheuer proves it with open source evidence in Imperial Hubris, Pape provides the largest data set and correlates motivation and ISAF troop movements, and independent studies from their texts prove it:

http://csc.asu.edu/2012/07/09/how-islamist-extremists-quote-the-quran/

The two theories or arguments you are pushing are utterly retarded they are

1) That the extremists came out of nowhere and just started wantonly bombing crap.

2) That if their gripes regarding Western interventionalism were true, what they would do is paint their faces white like you, put on a suit, walk into someone's office with a pen and "talk through matters"

Look all around the world man, from Cuba to Venezuala to Colombia to Nicaragua to Ireland...

All of these regions, where superpowers play games produce violent extremist responses and fighters ranging from FARC to the IRA to Sinn Fein etc.

You hold white people to one standard because you enjoy bending over for them and imitating them like some grown man boy slave but then expect people elsewhere to just act like some superhumans.

Che Guevara shot a few Cuban villagers in the back of the head when he took the war to Havana. Sinn Fein did stuff in London .. my point has not been to validate but to point out that this is the natural response and order of things.




it is against them. You are part of the extremists, and this is why you make lies against people, you support Taliban, even though they kill so many innocent people,

If you can provide one post where I say Omar is the better ruler or that the Qisas and Hudud belong in codifed law, I will buy you an ice cream treat. I stand fast on what I have been arguing since I arrived here which is namely that war hoisted on a people will result in those people taking comfort in and galvanizing around concepts and ideals that help them cope and fight back.

Your focus may be on somehow getting Jennifer at work to marry you and to see you as white (washed) but my focus is simply the truth.

Karzai and goons and Ghani have permitted doors to get kicked down, pregnant women to be killed point blank in Gardez, and summary trials to win popular opinion to move forward without a high standard of proof to send someone to the gallows. Yet you hold them to a different standard because Jennifer and you can commensurate and you can continue to hold indigenous Muslims to one standard and all others to another.

I have never supported USA or Israel in their evil doings, so not sure what are you talking about

You have and you do, but being a weak minded and weak willed and pliable person that refuses to acknowledge worldwide facts and phenomena that are in common between all sorts of cultures and people. In the US as the wars against the Indians got more and more vicious, the Indians started to respond with more and more assymmetry and harsh tactics (scalping etc)...

You basically are the equivalent of the guy that blames a rape victim instead of trying to decide, for the sake of justice, why events occur as they do. But as I said, your opinion, your liberality or conservativism, and your belief belief in Islam or lackthereof do not trouble or bother me. You are your own responsibility and will have to answer for your cowardice, kow-towing, and people pleasing

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[BarakzaiAbdali]

Idiot, Turks still could learn arabic script, they still have all of the Qurans in Arabic script, even now Turkish people learn arabic script to read the Quran. And majority of Turkey was illiterate so except the elite and some citie dwelers nobody could read or write. If 90% of Turkey was literate Attaturk would not even bother introducing roman script. But you idiots would do anything to justify your ISIS and taliban apes. Please stop worshiping the devil.

Dumb b-itch,

learn to read lol

The call to prayer (ezan or Ar. adhân), the standard announcement for the call to the service on Friday and the five daily ritual prayers (namaz, or Ar. salât) has always been recited in Turkey and everywhere in the world in Arabic (Juynboll, 1987). However, in the 1930s and 1940s, the Kemalist regime in Turkey was committed to end this tradition.

https://remmm.revues.org/6025

It was 1950 when they had to rescind that since Anatolians were ready to kick some as-s.

Ataturk wanted to Turkify Islam and so the Turkish word “Tanri” was to be used instead of Allah, and Salaath (the 5 times prayers) and Azaan (for the call for prayers.) These changes distressed the faithful Muslims and caused widespread resentment, which led to the 1933 return to the Arabic version of the call to prayer.

But this did not deter Ataturk, and he eventually prohibited Islamic education, and turned many mosques into museums or used for secular purposes. Resentment built up, and Ataturk suppressed a rebellion (Seyh Sait rebellion) that claimed 30,000 lives.

http://my.telegraph.co.uk/abdulmuhd/amuhd/258/kemal-ataturk-the-total-myth/

Even your number one client in the red light district, Mr. Pipes praises him;

1933 Islamic call to worship and public readings of the Kuran required to be in Turkish rather than Arabic.

http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/93158

Instead of having some common sense and doing both and demanding both the Arabic be side by side with the Turkish, or that the Turkish translation be said alongside of the liturgy the pecker-wood instigated this kind of retard move.

You militant homos don't get the fact that if you just use that one neuron you have left after your smoking hashish and drunkard nights out that you can take moderate approaches like making sure people have an in between access route to religion.

I've been to a Pashtun masjid here that your bff Karzai's cousin attends too where the Quran is read in Arabic, recited in Arabic and the Imam translates it into clear Pashto side by side since majority of attendees in VA are Afghans.

Even that makes sense instead of giving your bff Slopey D head Azmal and you power to murder people for their beliefs and ban them outright.