How to get rid of Akhwanis and Islamists

[Toramana]

I think we need strong leaders like Nur Sultan Nazarbiev.

http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/101east/2015/05/kazakhstan-hard-sell-150519100516906.html

[Khostai]

What we need is the goverment take control of the two tongued mullahs who spread hatred. Relligious centers really need to be controlled in Afghanistan on what they teach and say to the masses, this way the akhwanis and wahabists can be removed.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

I think we need strong leaders like Nur Sultan Nazarbiev.

http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/...100516906.html

This is just plain ignorance. Central Asian countries are tyrannies where people like you wouldn't even last a month. They are not only brutal and pressive against Muslims, they are repressive against everyone.

Besides, by having repressive policy towards Muslims, they drive their own alienated people towards extremism.

Most members of ISIS are either from Syria, Iraq, Tunesia or Central Asian republics.

The reason for this is because those countries treat Muslims horribly and torture, oppression and violence in general drives people to become more violent and extreme.

The very ideology that you detest so much, "Akhwanism" comes from torture chambers of Egypt.

So what you consider a good solution, is not a solution at all. Its actually the opposite of what you desire.

[Karachi]

we need modernize the education system, most of these mullahs are still living in the 7th century

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

we need modernize the education system, most of these mullahs are still living in the 7th century

how do you define "modern"?

[khushal]

Just get rid of the Toramana, Azmel, Karachi, DSM, Khostia types of people and problem solved.

[DSM0305]

Just get rid of the Toramana, Azmel, Karachi, DSM, Khostia types of people and problem solved.

Judging by the old saying, ''what you don't know can't hurt you''. You're practically invulnerable.

[DSM0305]

how do you define "modern"?

That the education system focuses on science. While both females and males requires to go to school. While the people stop interfering on what others do as long their action doesn't interfere with their life.

[Karachi]

how do you define "modern"?

by modern I mean the way the education system is set in the west, of course we can do it more in a Islamic setting, but it's about time muslims get some real education. Lets be honest 90% of them are illiterate and like you say most muslims do not follow Islam either, education will also help them understand Islam better because education opens the mind, this is why west is so ahead, because they have education

[Karachi]

Just get rid of the Toramana, Azmel, Karachi, DSM, Khostia types of people and problem solved.

oh really, then only jahil mullah types living in caves will exist in the Islamic world

[khushal]

oh really, then only jahil mullah types like you living in caves will exist in the Islamic world

Its you who lives in a cave mentally. Do you still believe that most scientists are atheists and that atheism will take you to the moon and mars or did I open up your mind to reality. A jahil is someone who does not take advantage of the education that is available to him/her.

[khushal]

That the education system focuses on science. While both females and males requires to go to school. While the people stop interfering on what others do as long their action doesn't interfere with their life.

Thats a hypocrisy. When you put requirements, you are taking away the power of choice, therefore you are interfering.

[khushal]

by modern I mean the way the education system is set in the west, of course we can do it more in a Islamic setting, but it's about time muslims get some real education. Lets be honest 90% of them are illiterate and like you say most muslims do not follow Islam either, education will also help them understand Islam better because education opens the mind, this is why west is so ahead, because they have education

The only thing the West has accomplished is economic prowess and they did that by pillaging and looting.

[DSM0305]

Thats a hypocrisy. When you put requirements, you are taking away the power of choice, therefore you are interfering.

Even putting a single law. One basically interfering with ''power of choice''. And if one removes all laws then it is anarchy. Which is far from what I consider modern or right/good.
What I mean by not interfering is to not take the law into ones own hands. Basically let the law/government do what must be done. And if one doesn't like the governments law, then one have to change it through the system that is available.

[randolph85]

And if one doesn't like the governments law, then one have to change it through the system that is available.

This works only if the government is purely democratic and if you are not a minority.