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    The Taliban now dominate the surrounding countryside in Asadabad in the province of Kunar and all but control several districts, according to residents and a politician.


    Faith in Afghan government wanes as Taliban expands influence in the east

    ASADABAD, Afghanistan // For several days, the Taliban used rocks to block a main road leading from Nari to Asadabad in eastern Afghanistan. A heavy machine gun was stationed on an overlooking mountain in case anyone still tried to pass.


    People who described the incident from last month said it was a show of power that ended when residents cleared the route themselves – with the permission of the insurgents – rather than continue waiting for help from the security forces.


    In a series of interviews with The National, they cited this as further proof that the government is losing its grip here, conceding territory and public support in a region where US troops spent years struggling to subdue the Taliban.


    Asadabad is the capital of Kunar, a province of stunning vistas on the border with Pakistan.

    The Taliban now dominate the surrounding countryside and all but control several districts, according to residents, elders and a politician.Nato has said over the years that other militant groups including Hizb-e-Islami, the Pakistani Taliban, Lashkar-e-Taiba and remnants of Al Qaeda are active locally.


    While some of the claims made are impossible to verify, the sense of anxiety in Asadabad is clear as the weather gets warmer and the summer fighting season gets under way.


    Mohammed Rafi, a taxi driver, said: “The Taliban are very strong. If they want to stop a car and take a passenger, they can easily. We don’t feel like we have a government or someone we can complain to about the situation. The police and army are nothing.”


    With its mountainous terrain, Kunar has long had a reputation as an insurgent stronghold, dating back to the anti-communist resistance of the 1980s. The population is predominantly ethnic Pashtun and, unusually for Afghanistan, contains a relatively large number of Salafi Muslims.


    Despite its remote location, Nato regards the eastern province as an infiltration route for militants heading deep into the country from Pakistan and some of the most intense combat of the past decade took place here, most notoriously in the Korengal valley.


    There is no obvious desire among the people for American troops to return to Kunar. But with most foreign soldiers now gone from Afghanistan, the war is entering a new phase that has seen violence escalate across the country.


    Before the road leading from Nari district to Asadabad was blocked, insurgents also obstructed another road connecting Asadabad and the district of Dangam, where heavy fighting had taken place during the winter.
    “If this continues, obviously it’s a big problem,” said Wazhma Safi, a local MP. “On its own it shows the strength of the Taliban.”


    While Taliban offensives in the north of the country have grabbed media attention in recent weeks, Ms Safi said Asadabad was not safe either. Speaking from Kabul, she said most of Kunar was now “under threat” and the province was in danger of being “lost” alongside large parts of eastern and southern Afghanistan.


    Residents of Asadabad described how rocket and mortar attacks on the town have become more common, though they are not a daily occurrence.
    They said the insurgents have relative freedom to do as they please outside the capital.


    As if to emphasise this, an elder excitedly pointed to the headlights of a vehicle moving across a nearby mountain one night, saying that it was an area in which the Taliban operated.


    The confidence of the insurgents appears to have been boosted by administrative failings.


    Many senior officials in Kunar are still waiting to hear from Kabul if they will be holding their positions on a permanent basis as different factions within the central government wrangle over who should get important posts across the country. As a result, faith in the system is disappearing fast.


    Haji Ziaullah, the director of Asadabad’s money changers council, estimated that businesses had lost 70 per cent of their trade due to the political uncertainty and growing insecurity.


    “The Taliban can block a road any time,” he said. “The highway to Nuristan is always blocked and each day there is fighting. Don’t even ask me about the districts that are far away. The local government is so weak that if a checkpoint is under attack it will take a month for help to arrive.”


    In January, the Taliban released a video via its website showing operations it had carried out in Kunar. The film included footage of Afghan soldiers captured in Nari.



    More recently, the province’s chief of police, Abdul Habib Sayedkhili, survived a roadside bombing as he travelled between Kabul and Kunar on April 8.



    The growing strength of the Taliban is not the only problem locals have to deal with.


    Cross-border shelling by the Pakistan army in previous years has also caused widespread anger in Afghanistan. Then there is deforestation, with trees being illegally cut down and the timber smuggled out of the country – allegedly with the involvement of corrupt local officials.


    “All the governments have been bad for us,” said Ajmal Malik, an employee of Asadabad municipality.



    “Security was only good during the Taliban time. All the others have been the same – they haven’t done anything for us. We are not safe.”
    "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

  • #2
    This is concordant with the prior posting:
    Conversing the truth, lies and intelligence pertaining to the assessment of the Pashtun population across the Durrand line.


    Despite the puppets in Kabul crowing about victories (and likely labeling civilian or other local resistors as Talibs to pump up the number of enemy killed) - including brandishing Kunar as its "success story" on this very site - we see that its all a pack of BS.

    Like a boxer, the insurgency uses a feint and dodge set of moves - melting away ala the strategies that have been classic and well known since Augusto Cesar Sandino used them in Nicaragua nearly a century ago.

    They expend the opponents wherewithal, blood, and treasure and mount a positive feedback cycle of recruitment by ensuring that fresh future colleagues are gained when an outsider military force or its local suzerain force inflicts tragedy on "local supporters" or "sympathizers."

    This will likely go on for another 2 decades or so and has the potential to do so if the political climate does not change.

    Note that you will hear the same exact refrain and song and dance next year regarding "the insurgency is on its last legs" and "this is basically a manifestation of desperation" etc etc etc. All of it pans out to be inaccurate and self serving since an unrealistic view of an opponent also plays into the hands of a foe who relies on hubris, mirage like promises of stability and justice, and manipulation of the psyche to succeed.
    "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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    • #3
      The Afghan people desire security and rule of law. Whoever can deliver that, the people will stand by them.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by BarakzaiAbdali View Post
        This is concordant with the prior posting:
        Conversing the truth, lies and intelligence pertaining to the assessment of the Pashtun population across the Durrand line.


        Despite the puppets in Kabul crowing about victories (and likely labeling civilian or other local resistors as Talibs to pump up the number of enemy killed) - including brandishing Kunar as its "success story" on this very site - we see that its all a pack of BS.

        Like a boxer, the insurgency uses a feint and dodge set of moves - melting away ala the strategies that have been classic and well known since Augusto Cesar Sandino used them in Nicaragua nearly a century ago.

        They expend the opponents wherewithal, blood, and treasure and mount a positive feedback cycle of recruitment by ensuring that fresh future colleagues are gained when an outsider military force or its local suzerain force inflicts tragedy on "local supporters" or "sympathizers."

        This will likely go on for another 2 decades or so and has the potential to do so if the political climate does not change.

        Note that you will hear the same exact refrain and song and dance next year regarding "the insurgency is on its last legs" and "this is basically a manifestation of desperation" etc etc etc. All of it pans out to be inaccurate and self serving since an unrealistic view of an opponent also plays into the hands of a foe who relies on hubris, mirage like promises of stability and justice, and manipulation of the psyche to succeed.
        Who can believe the propaganda of a third-rated Dubai based newspaper except a fanatic that believes there is going to khlafat esztablished. Stop your Akhwani fantasy now. ANA is strong and kicking Taleb arses.

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        • #5
          That is a ad hominem fallacy Toramana and the Washington Post is not third rate but considered First rate.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Toramana View Post
            Who can believe the propaganda of a third-rated Dubai based newspaper except a fanatic that believes there is going to khlafat esztablished. Stop your Akhwani fantasy now. ANA is strong and kicking Taleb arses.
            LOOOOL. Nice try. The more you rage about Akhwanis and mount retarded conspiracy theories and what not the more suspicious I become that your communism stems from deriving from some minority faction attempting to halt sunni ascendancy. The Americans in Poker call such slip ups "a tell."

            Here is Marc Herold praising, in India's paper, the reporting by the author of that piece you are maligning, Mr. Chris Sands:

            "
            One searches in vain in the U.S. mainstream press for reporting on all those bombs being dropped on Afghanistan. Vietnam-era enemy body counts are now officially back as part of the U.S. propaganda war.20 Even less is written on the concrete results – other than the prolific references to “eliminated militants” – of such bombing. Such is to be expected from a corporate media largely in tow by the Pentagon and the Obama regime. Naturally, exceptions exist, as for example the independent reporting by Chris Sands, the freelance journalist of Britain who has been working independently in Afghanistan since 2005.21 Sadly, for every Chris Sands there are dozens like Jason Straziuoso (Associated Press), Lara Logan (CBS 60 Minutes) or Laura King (Los Angeles Times) who serve as megaphones for the Pentagon’s version of events.".
            http://www.frontline.in/static/html/...3261300400.htm

            I think you are on par with Lara Logan and Laura King, attempting to, but failing to, be a propagandistic mouthpiece.

            What else can one expect from the the acolyte of Miss Andersen, Mr. Kakar, Mr. Yusufzai and the whole host of losers at the defunct AIRRA?
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            • #7
              Originally posted by khushal View Post
              The Afghan people desire security and rule of law. Whoever can deliver that, the people will stand by them.
              this does not make sense, there is a very thin line between war and peace, there is saying if you want peace go for war. Afghan itself are the biggest obstacles in achieving rule of law. you should have better said Afghan want security and rule of law by principal. now these principal are either the mixture of their self ignorance with pashtunwali and islam, or simply the illusion taliban and government have created.
              Last edited by marwat; 05-20-2015, 02:26 PM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by marwat View Post
                this does not make sense, there is a very thin line between war and peace, there is saying if you want peace go for war. Afghan itself are the biggest obstacles in achieving rule of law. you should have better said Afghan want security and rule of law by principal. now these principal are either the mixture of their self ignorance with pashtunwali and islam, or simply the illusion taliban and government have created.
                The Afghans achieved it on their own and foreign intervention dislodged the stability. Read the history, when was it stable and when was it unstable.

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                • #9
                  This is no surprise, ANA are losing to talibs even in the north. They are not disciplined, not well trained enough and can't even take proper orders. Maybe because illiteracy is so rampant among the soldiers.

                  I'm just surprised they haven't dropped their guns like the Iraqi army in a middle of a fight and fled yet.
                  "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                  -Old Pashtun proverb




                  "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                  • #10
                    One must read the article in its entirety, and saying "ANA losing in East" is a spurious claim. Kunar has been difficult to fight the insurgency, the Americans could not pacify it with ground troops and aerial campaigns until they just withdrew and simply targeted the insurgents from the air and resigned to containing it. The same strategy is pursued by the ANA with periodic operations to disorientate the insurgents or limit their threats and spill overs which by this measure they have been successful. ANA's main constraint is its limited aerial capability. I am abit of anti-climax and there is no need for being alarmist.

                    Kunar, geography wise is the smallest and an isolated province in the country and the east. However, during the Jihad era, it served to be more strategic as the Mujahideen could infiltrate parts of the east and north from the region. That threat can be discounted as the insurgent there are isolated and lack the the ability to make inroads to other regions.

                    It is clear that the Talibs are hedging in the war front to gain an advantage in the negotiations. Ghani and and majority of Afghans who oppose Talibs realizes this. Given the terrain and continuous flow of men and arms from Pakistan, Kunar will remain to be a difficult front for ANA. But the ANA has enough muscle to deal them blows and least to contain them there. They can continue their fight for the next two decades.
                    Last edited by ComradePashtun; 05-24-2015, 09:13 AM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
                      This is no surprise, ANA are losing to talibs even in the north. They are not disciplined, not well trained enough and can't even take proper orders. Maybe because illiteracy is so rampant among the soldiers.

                      I'm just surprised they haven't dropped their guns like the Iraqi army in a middle of a fight and fled yet.
                      Any evidence for your claims? In the north the security forces have effectively contained and are pushing terrorists back where they are simply fighting for their lives and losing men in large proportion. I doubt the insurgents will make any strategic gain in north, they will lose more than gain. They might be biting more than they can chew.

                      Regardless, the government and people will fight them to its full ability. It seems like fighting Talibs to the end is better than making peace with them.
                      Last edited by ComradePashtun; 05-24-2015, 09:02 AM.

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                      • #12
                        Talibs won't prevail, the people and government will for sure, inshallah. Talibs are khawariji and jahileen and in their ignorance they are crueler than evil.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
                          This is no surprise, ANA are losing to talibs even in the north. They are not disciplined, not well trained enough and can't even take proper orders. Maybe because illiteracy is so rampant among the soldiers.

                          I'm just surprised they haven't dropped their guns like the Iraqi army in a middle of a fight and fled yet.
                          Its about who has the moral high ground. The Insurgents are just as illiterate as the ANA soldiers or even more so since they have less resources than the ANA.

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                          • #14
                            this summer offensive have cleared many doubts, taliban are using every single bullet and every single resource they have just to have an upper hand in peace talks, but they are unable to gain any strategic ground, their casualties are very alarming. if taliban leadership is expelled from pakistan there will be no need for any peace talk. Good job ANA.

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                            • #15
                              I doubt that would happen, Marwata. Pakistan can never be sincere and will only look for its interest, hence Pakistan's strategy will be to extract the best deal for Talibs.

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