"Take Tajikistan but give Afghanistan to India": Ashraf Ghani to Pakistan

[tripledouble]

http://www.firstpost.com/world/take-tajikistan-but-give-afghanistan-to-india-ghanis-proposal-to-pakistan-can-change-narrative-in-south-asia-2219246.html

loool looks like Ghani is too excited to become India's 30th state & now it's trying to pimp out Tajikistan

[Adam]

Whatever happened to the port the Indians were developing in Iran to get around this problem?

[tilla_jogian]

Whatever happened to the port the Indians were developing in Iran to get around this problem?

There is nothing getting around this problem. Iran port is waste of resources, thats why nothing has been done about it.

Pakistan will provide India access to Afghanistan from Karachi, which will make Iran port useless. But they should forget about acess through wagah border.

[Adam]

Just googled, seems like its still in play.

http://inserbia.info/today/2015/04/india-ready-to-strike-port-deal-with-iran/

[tripledouble]

Whatever happened to the port the Indians were developing in Iran to get around this problem?

it's still in construction but there isn't a way around this "problem", most efficient trade for Afghanistan with rest of world is through Pakistani ports of Karachi & Gwadar and road access across Pakistan into Wagah

Indian sea route is longer,more expensive & inefficient.

moreover pakistan don't need to bargain with Afghanistan for access to Tajikistan/central Asia like ghani is trying to claim, Pakistan can already access Tajikistan via Karakoram highway in China, it's just 100 miles longer than normal Afghan route, maybe ghani wants to sell us Wakhan corridor when he said "take tajikistan"

[tripledouble]

There are already sanctions on iran, india don't have money to fund whole project but still doing it, afghanistan and iran just milking them looool anyway best trade for afghanistan is with pakistan, india just acting like a bone inside kebab

[ComradePashtun]

... Pakistan can already access Tajikistan via Karakoram highway in China, it's just 100 miles longer than normal Afghan route, maybe ghani wants to sell us Wakhan corridor when he said "take tajikistan"

This is silliest thing I am hearing. I will leave it just at that.

[tripledouble]

This is silliest thing I am hearing. I will leave it just at that.

silly what?karakoram highway already connect pakistan to china and china have built a highway going into tajikistan, we can bypass afghanistan but u can't bypass us

[ComradePashtun]

Almost impossible. You don't even trade with China over route. Show us the map of the roads and provide an accurate distance of the roads that will connect you from lets say central Pakistan to Dushanbe, Tajikistan, and its comparison through Torkham, Koduz and then Dushanbe. Lets see and prove that you are not the biggest bull****er. Secondly, Tajikistan is the smallest of CAS markets. Third, Uzbekistan and Tajikistan's relations as bad as India-Pakistan which in practice can be a stumbling block to access the remaining CAS. There are other practicalities which will prevent this route from materializing which I won't go in to. You transport 10 freights through China then come back and talk to me. Until then it is all rubbish talk. We have many options, Chahbahar is more realistic than your China-Tajikistan.

[ComradePashtun]

Guaranteed, if it really came down to it, Afghanistan can completely shift its transit trade through Chahbahar and northern route which is being worked on by EU, U.S. and Afghanistan and CAS and countries of the Caucus. I don't see why other than for geo-political issues.

[ComradePashtun]

Around 30% of our import and export (except with Pak and Iran) is conducted through Chahbahar already. It is just slightly expensive which wont kill.