Government, Taliban delegations meeting today

[marwat]

A delegation from Afghan government and another from Taliban militants will hold face-to-face talks on the decade long skirmish in Qatar today.
Afghan High Peace Council (AHPC) officials say the delegation sent by the government include 20 people who will set on one table and have comprehensive discussions with Taliban. Beside Afghan government and Taliban there are other parties included in peace talks including Pakistan.
AHPC deputy, Atatullah Ludin, has told Reuters news agency: “The open discussions are based on peace in Afghanistan. There will be representatives from Afghanistan, Pakistan, the Taliban and some other organisations.”
Representatives from Hezb-i-Islami faction led by Gulbuddin Hekmatyar are part of the face-to-face talks.
A Taliban mediator in Qatar has confirmed the peace talks. He has said that the discussion among government, Taliban, Pakistan and representatives from some other countries will be going on for several days to reach to a resolution.
Although, the government agenda for peace talks is not yet shared with media but most probably the primary demand of the government would be to make a ceasefire with militants who are still fighting amid ongoing peace talks.
Taliban began an insurgency after their regime was toppled in 2001. Tens of thousands of people have lost lives in the battle since then.
[MENTION=5381]Shamlawar Khurasani[/MENTION] i would like to see your view on Afghan reconciliation efforts.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

I don't know much about these negotiations. I can't comment on a topic I have no knowledge of yet.

[marwat]

I don't know much about these negotiations. I can't comment on a topic I have no knowledge of yet.

do you support Afghan reconciliation efforts led by Afghan government with taliban or not? as simple as that.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

do you support Afghan reconciliation efforts led by Afghan government with taliban or not? as simple as that.

Since 2001, the Americans and their allies have failed to create a well functioning client state in Kabul. They rely on pillagers, pimps and political prostitutes to govern the country. They don't choose to do so because they can't find better alternatives. They do so because bringing back peace and stability in Afghanistan doesn't serve America's geo-strategic interests. If everything turns to peace and properity, there will be no need for permanent military bases, and america will loose its strategic outpost to check russia, china, pakistan & iran. Therefore, a weak and internal divided government is the result of 13 years of foreign intervention in Afghanistan.

There are many client states around the world. Yet those countries still have a certain level of peace and stability because even though under occupation, most people are not compelled to wage war and take up arms against the ruling faction of their society.

This is not the case in Afghanistan. Despite billions of dollars being pumped into Afghanistan, average Afghans have not benefited from any of this. There are tens of thousands of Afghans who flee Afghanistan annually, drug abuse, alcohol addiction and suicide is widespread.

These circumstances give young men in Afghanistan the incentives to join armed resistence. Some do so purely due to their own religious convictions, others do so because they have been victimized by the occupation and oppression.

So to answer your question, if a few men go to qatar to talk, i don't think they can change the situation in Afghanistan.

Those who have the greatest power in the region ( America, Pakistan, Iran, China, Russia & India) need to stop using Afghanistan as their strategic playing field. As long as they continue to do so, Afghans won't be able to reconcile and bring peace and stability in their own homeland.

These negotiations are just a political puppet show. In reality they don't mean anything.

[DaZahroJaam.]

may the earth beneath their feet crack open and swallow them to the deepest pits of hell.
you negotiate with people whose reasons for casting chaos and injustice you are willing to hear. for those of us who will not tolerate it under any circumstance and will not deem it acceptable under any reason, there is no question of negotiation. they are going to sit together and sell the country one more time and this time with the approval of whoever is hosting this meeting.
so once again, may the earth crack open and swallow them all to the deepest pits of hell.

[khushal]

The insurgency has no central authority and the reasons people fight are not the same. Even if they agree which I doubt because they all know they are powerless to agree to anything, it wouldnt change anything.

The insurgency is bigger than Omar, the Quetta Shura, the Haqqani network, The ISI. They can all support it but they are powerless to stop it as long as the variables of why people fight exist.

[ComradePashtun]

Cool story

[ComradePashtun]

You would know all this wouldn't ya

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

By Altaf Hussain

Those who claim to be the most patriotic people in Pakistan but consider these non-state actors as the integral part of the state seek to legitimise what is patently illegitimate. We all want peace in the country and we all want to see the country emerging as a modern democracy among the international community. We all recognise the importance of holding dialogues for resolving issues but I would like to put a question to leaders, scholars and academicians. Dialogue but with whom?

http://tribune.com.pk/story/610225/dialogue-but-with-whom/

[Insight]

The insurgency has no central authority and the reasons people fight are not the same. Even if they agree which I doubt because they all know they are powerless to agree to anything.

The insurgency is bigger than Omar, the Quetta Shura, the Haqqani network, The ISI. They can all support it but they are powerless to stop it as long as the variables of why people fight exist.

These peace conferences date back a few years, and it appears that it is only significant to the Kabul regime. That should be seen in light of fact that Ghani failed to make Obama reverse his decision for a full US withdrawal.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/04/wo...atar.html?_r=0

"This is not the first such Pugwash Conference to include the two sides, and there have been other similar Track Two talks, as indirect, non-negotiation meetings between the two sides have been called..."


I think Pugwash held a similar peace conference in Japan a few years back. It is a good organization that wants peace in Afghanistan. Pugwash is not affiliated with the Kabul puppet regime.