Critical assessment of President Ashraf Ghani

[DSM0305]

Are u saying ghani's gang are not corrupt? Only frog faces people are corrupt?

if this is what u are saying, didn't Ghani know that before he accepted the orders of john Kerry to participate in NUG?

if he knew Abdullah is corrupt and he still chose to be part of a unity govt with corrupt people what does that make him?

if life of ordinary afghans have improved significantly since Ghani residency, can you prove this by sharing any information which is unbiased and reliable?

One needs to see the picture as a whole, instead of pointing out fraction of it. I think we both know what would have happened if Ghani wasn't cooperative, and didn't form a unity government. I am not talking about the US if that what you're thinking.

To put it straight without hinting. Then we all know that these self-proclaimed ''muhahadeens'' are nothing but power hungry individuals with a flavor of nationalism and a facade of Islam. That frog Abdullah x2 and his so called supporters, openly threatened with civil war. They literally said that they will make the Afghan rivers run in blood. Abdullah x2 openly said that one word from him and Afghanistan will be upside down.

Ashraf Ghani made a unity government not for his own sake, but for the people. Don't get me wrong, Ashraf Ghani had the wast majority support amongst both Pashtuns and Uzbeks. The victory was clear, whether politically or militarily, that frog Abdullah had no chance. The question wasn't about victory, but about peace. What would a victory be worth, if the victims were the civilian. Basically Ashraf Ghani did it for the people. He didn't want more Afghan blood to be spilled.

And regarding the source of my previous claim. I did not find it in the Internet. It is a personal experience from visiting Afghanistan back in the days and now.

[marwat]

that's as a simple question. Who pays for all the "good news" coming from Afghanistan?

you already made up your mind. i told you what are you expecting me to say? and who pays for all the bad news coming from Afghanistan?

[BarakzaiAbdali]

The first round of Afghan presidential elections was more than 1 year ago.

Ashraf Ghani is the winner and considering the fact that he was secular pashtun nationalists favorite candidate, I am curious to know how you guys feel about him now.

Since PF is the hub of secular nationalists, I assume that most of you fully supported his candidacy.

How do you assess his presidency? Did he give you what you expected from him? Is he able to finish his term succesfully? Is he any better than Karzai?

Please be as elaborate as you can.

Thanks.

He's implanted sock puppet number 2 who pretty much sold his own mother out. All one needs to see is Scahill's gripping and evidence based work into the deadly raids in places like Gardez and Hoh's detailing in that documentary about the way civilians suffered the most under the night raids to understand that Ghani is a sell out fool.

His only skill is understand that the kharij hand up his butt wagging his mouth and jaw will only keep him sitting there if he nods his head and jumps when told.

[marwat]

He's implanted sock puppet number 2 who pretty much sold his own mother out. All one needs to see is Scahill's gripping and evidence based work into the deadly raids in places like Gardez and Hoh's detailing in that documentary about the way civilians suffered the most under the night raids to understand that Ghani is a sell out fool.

His only skill is understand that the kharij hand up his butt wagging his mouth and jaw will only keep him sitting there if he nods his head and jumps when told.

like taliban apologist now care for civilian losses too. that is great achievement on your part.
which documentary are you referring too, 'dirty war' that was released in january 2013.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

like taliban apologist now care for civilian losses too. that is great achievement on your part.
which documentary are you referring too, 'dirty war' that was released in january 2013.

Dirty War amongst other works does detail the deadly Gardez raid in which McRaven's team killed a bunch of women with shots to the abdomen.

There is no need to be an apologist for anything or anyone. Its simple fact. You are equating a defensive force with an aggressive occupying force as being on the par when it comes to civilian casualties. In whatever ethics there are in war (which is very little in general since war is the end of logical and ethical diplomacy), the assymetrically underarmed guerilla warrior stands on a far more solid ground regarding using the term collateral damage than an aggressive trillion dollar empire with laser guided missiles, armed camera tactical drones, angle diverting bullets etc.
That is why the Vietcong, despite having inflicted a large portion of the civilian casualty count in Vietnam, still was lauded as the defensive party on whom war was hoisted. No matter how marxist, aggressive, unflinching, unyielding they may have been - the world generally viewed them as being more indigenous than a group of white ango saxon protestant or catholic folks air lifted from 1000s of miles away and as less of the causal agent. And just like today, Dheim was seen as a Ghani like sock puppet who was merely an extension of that warfare and occupation. To simply malign anyone or any indigenous underarmed guerilla force for violence that is secondary to the environment hoisted on them is only the sort of thing a fool like you would do.

This is exactly why high pay grade Marwats sitting in Karachi or governmental posts need not apply for sympathy cards when their benefactors in the Army or the government get waloozoled into oblivion for their antagnostic actions coming back to them lol.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

He's implanted sock puppet number 2 who pretty much sold his own mother out. All one needs to see is Scahill's gripping and evidence based work into the deadly raids in places like Gardez and Hoh's detailing in that documentary about the way civilians suffered the most under the night raids to understand that Ghani is a sell out fool.

His only skill is understand that the kharij hand up his butt wagging his mouth and jaw will only keep him sitting there if he nods his head and jumps when told.

What do you think about those who say: if ghani would not have agreed to share power with that pimp, there would have been a civil war by now. Do you agree?

[marwat]

Dirty War amongst other works does detail the deadly Gardez raid in which McRaven's team killed a bunch of women with shots to the abdomen.

how can you ignore the fact that those raids did not happen in Ghani era, and calling him sock puppet on the base of that is appealing to common sense nothing more. even night raids were banned later in Karzai era too.

There is no need to be an apologist for anything or anyone. Its simple fact. You are equating a defensive force with an aggressive occupying force as being on the par when it comes to civilian casualties. In whatever ethics there are in war (which is very little in general since war is the end of logical and ethical diplomacy), the assymetrically underarmed guerilla warrior stands on a far more solid ground regarding using the term collateral damage than an aggressive trillion dollar empire with laser guided missiles, armed camera tactical drones, angle diverting bullets etc......................

Wror the basic principal of gorilla warfare is to be offensive.guerrilla warfare is more offensive in its character and tactics than regular warfare. there goes your logic. rest suicide attacks, mortar, rocket attack and IED causes 90 percent of civilian casualties. now have an idea who is responsible for that.
you should know that the trillion dollar army was not interested in chasing Afghan taliban but their own interest haqqani and Alqaeda, they become more defensive after 2004 and relayed heavily on intel, drone and night raids which is also an asymmetric warfare. only small scale operation were conducted in helmand area.
Barakzai you are playing with words only, lol angle diverting bullets, like you read that news too two days ago
defending trillion dollar army jerk a little life to your sympathy card. no one do that. taliban will have some genius concern but they are representing pakistan interest more than their own grieves.
They don't represent common Afghan. this is i am claiming.

[Khostai]

One needs to see the picture as a whole, instead of pointing out fraction of it. I think we both know what would have happened if Ghani wasn't cooperative, and didn't form a unity government. I am not talking about the US if that what you're thinking.

To put it straight without hinting. Then we all know that these self-proclaimed ''muhahadeens'' are nothing but power hungry individuals with a flavor of nationalism and a facade of Islam. That frog Abdullah x2 and his so called supporters, openly threatened with civil war. They literally said that they will make the Afghan rivers run in blood. Abdullah x2 openly said that one word from him and Afghanistan will be upside down.

Ashraf Ghani made a unity government not for his own sake, but for the people. Don't get me wrong, Ashraf Ghani had the wast majority support amongst both Pashtuns and Uzbeks. The victory was clear, whether politically or militarily, that frog Abdullah had no chance. The question wasn't about victory, but about peace. What would a victory be worth, if the victims were the civilian. Basically Ashraf Ghani did it for the people. He didn't want more Afghan blood to be spilled.

And regarding the source of my previous claim. I did not find it in the Internet. It is a personal experience from visiting Afghanistan back in the days and now.

DSM this exremist don't value human lives, they see leaders who sacrifies their power to safe their own people as weak and corrupt and people like mullah omar who kille many inocent people in markte place by suicide bombers o gain back control as heroes. They have really primitive set of mind.

[DSM0305]

DSM this exremist don't value human lives, they see leaders who sacrifies their power to safe their own people as weak and corrupt and people like mullah omar who kille many inocent people in markte place by suicide bombers o gain back control as heroes. They have really primitive set of mind.

In the end; no matter what these insurgence do, the government is there to stay. Sooner or later they have to either negotiate with the government or plain simply give up.

Back in the days, when soviets left. The self-proclaimed ''mujahadeens'' were by far stronger and had more resources and man-power than the current insurgency. Yet, they couldn't take over Kabul from the governments. Even through the support they received from the soviets was far less than the support the current government receive.
My point is, how will the current insurgency win over the government, when the insurgency was by far stronger back then, against a much weaker government, yet they still couldn't take control over Kabul.

The current insurgency at their best will be able to inflict some casualties against the government, but they will never be able to gain political or militarily upper hand. The only way they can gain anything at all, is by negotiating with the government.

So in the end, no matter what the Taliban sympathizers says; it will not change the ground realities.

[ComradePashtun]

Without Pakistan's support, territorial an in material etc. the insurgency will dissipate in no more than couple of years at max. They should be fought to the end. The Afghan government should shake up, unite its people behind itself and go full throttle and annihilate terrorists and who ever supports them. They could learn from Sri-Lanka. This is the only way to deal with these traitors and dogs of Pakistan who have made the life 30 million human beings a misery. Fighting them to the end will be a less of a price we will have paid if we look back in 10 years. But this could only happen with strong government and a united nation.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

What do you think about those who say: if ghani would not have agreed to share power with that pimp, there would have been a civil war by now. Do you agree?

Pimp is too much credit. The Pimp is the boss - Paisha, or the worker is the better label for them both.

I think that the outside power has two concerns:

1) Making Afghanistan not look like a net loss.

vs

2) Divide and conquer politics

Whichever of these benefits them the most they pursue.

Saleh and Abdullah and these guys are in constant communication with Rohrabacher - who has been and will be their advocate.

The smarter people in the West are currently very very happy to watch the violence in Syria and watch the proxy warfare between Iran and Saudi because it involves both of their adversaries draining their blood and treasure in nation draining warfare.

In this same way, Kharijaan are very happy to have donkeys in Kabul and Islamabad and other Central South Asian regions thinking that somehow they are "great" and "smart" and "forward thinking" each for their own people because they wear double windsor knots and pin stripped suits.

The reality is far different. They are Kiplingesque fools who accomplished next to nothing in the West so their inferiority complexes make then serve "the master" as some sort of "face of modernity" in their native countries.

Take Ghani for instance -
He's almost as bad as Karzai (the former failed dishwasher whose own brother said he couldn't tolerate dish washing in their restaurant and preferred the chai khanaay of Quetta)

In academia, success is measured by TWO main measures, both of which show he is an abysmal failure - despite the common media platitudes of "academic" and genius etc etc etc like they did in the US with Paul Ryan and his retarded economic plan:

1) High impact factor publications
2) Tenure as a professor

So regarding 1)
Here is a list of the impact factor journals in anthropology:

http://www.aaanet.org/publications/upload/Journal-title-list.pdf

Here is an authorship search through Columbia:

http://clio.columbia.edu/catalog?utf8=%E2%9C%93&advanced_operator=AND&commit=Search&search_field=advanced&adv%5B1%5D%5Bfield%5D=author&adv%5B1%5D%5Bvalue%5D=ghani%2C+ashraf&adv%5B2%5D%5Bfield%5D=all_fields&adv%5B2%5D%5Bvalue%5D=&adv%5B3%5D%5Bfield%5D=all_fields&adv%5B3%5D%5Bvalue%5D=&adv%5B4%5D%5Bfield%5D=all_fields&adv%5B4%5D%5Bvalue%5D=&adv%5B5%5D%5Bfield%5D=all_fields&adv%5B5%5D%5Bvalue%5D=

Harvard's Hollis system produces similar scant results:

http://hollis.harvard.edu/primo_library/libweb/action/search.do?ct=Next+Page&pag=nxt&indx=91&dscnt=0&indx=1&tab=articles&dstmp=1430690217521&vl(freeText0)=ashraf%20ghani&fn=search&vid=HVD&mode=Basic

Basically, he's got next to nothing to list.

I read his book Fixing Failed States in 2013 and pretty much saw concepts in there that even Neocon godfather Fukayama had disavowed by now, yet this cockroach writes in circles about how "proper" international intervention should proceed while ignoring ground level realities what the strings attached often are.

2) He achieved associate status but never full tenure professorship and remains a hanger on adjunct.

He produced next to nothing during his Fulbright year and his most recent articles are all think tank advocacy articles.

I think that the litmus test for being a "true friend" to Afghanistan was the election. Rather than use their firepower to support an election result and tell Atta the B-itch and the others "sit your asses down" and accept this result, the Kharijaan diluted the central authority powers with money and power sharing and threats of leaving.

Really, the only thing holding the Atta Saleh Abdullah and Ghani Karzai and other occupier donkeys together is their collective greed to keep the gravy train flowing and flowing and flowing.

A civil war? Perhaps, but it was an internal Afghan matter to be settled between and amongst the people.

The other metrics of his progress or capabilities are here:

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia/2015/01/afghan-leader-without-cabinet-after-100-days-20151614918125608.html

Afghan President Ashraf Ghani has marked 100 days in office as he continues to struggle to name a cabinet, creating a political stalemate that threatens to hamper the fight against the Taliban.

Recently this happened:

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia/2015/04/afghanistan-parliament-approves-cabinet-nominees-150419052038639.html

With Abdullah still poking him in the rectum over defense minister.

Here is the list of who's who of mental retards who are in the cabinet positions:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-32391844

It provides me hours of entertainment when tall tails are spun about the solidity of the government. Minus the American air power and embeds, every province would succumb, minus some northern ones in a matter of days to months.

Basically Ghani is the Wizard of Oz, but Emerald City has a bunch of munchkins who can barely keep their stories straight.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

how can you ignore the fact that those raids did not happen in Ghani era, and calling him sock puppet on the base of that is appealing to common sense nothing more. even night raids were banned later in Karzai era too.



Wror the basic principal of gorilla warfare is to be offensive.guerrilla warfare is more offensive in its character and tactics than regular warfare. there goes your logic. rest suicide attacks, mortar, rocket attack and IED causes 90 percent of civilian casualties. now have an idea who is responsible for that.
you should know that the trillion dollar army was not interested in chasing Afghan taliban but their own interest haqqani and Alqaeda, they become more defensive after 2004 and relayed heavily on intel, drone and night raids which is also an asymmetric warfare. only small scale operation were conducted in helmand area.
Barakzai you are playing with words only, lol angle diverting bullets, like you read that news too two days ago
defending trillion dollar army jerk a little life to your sympathy card. no one do that. taliban will have some genius concern but they are representing pakistan interest more than their own grieves.
They don't represent common Afghan. this is i am claiming.

That is incorrect, regarding the last paragraph.

Insurgent tactics tend to have a direct correlation with the degree of asymmetry.

Not even a thalidomide baby would randomly inflict violence if higher level weaponry were available that offered increased resolution.

In the Cong days and subsequent Latin American rebel days, support from multiple powers resulted in many many many different weapons being in the hands of insurgents. Even then, civilian casualties were often disproportionate.

In the bad old days of the Soviet Conflict, it was often fighting between the Reds and the Muj that would result in mass casualties, but no one said a word back then about these issues because the latter were "heroes." This is despite them having relatively reasonable weapons.

As war becomes more and more asymmetric, and weaponry to the subjugated becomes more scarce, the responses are often more desperate with lower and lower resolution tactics and weapons. The Ketusha rockets of Palestine is a nice example.. the population is getting more and more desperate and more and more squeezed and their responses are more and more in line with this worldwide phenomena.

I am not unjust and foolish enough to criticize poor people with barely enough to afford plastic sandals to somehow become war masters and not respond as humans all over the world have done for the last 100 years when warfare becomes disproportionate.

The exact same phenomena was seen all across the Latin American nations as Reagan handed Contras and others better and better weapons and armed the militaries of Latin America with the freshest killing machines. FARC's evolution is a fine example of this.

This is not about apologetics, its about not being dense and understanding human responses to stimuli and triggers.

[Kushan Prince]

In the end; no matter what these insurgence do, the government is there to stay. Sooner or later they have to either negotiate with the government or plain simply give up.

Back in the days, when soviets left. The self-proclaimed '' '' were by far stronger and had more resources and man-power than the current insurgency. Yet, they couldn't take over Kabul from the governments. Even through the support they received from the soviets was far less than the support the current government receive.
My point is, how will the current insurgency win over the government, when the insurgency was by far stronger back then, against a much weaker government, yet they still couldn't take control over Kabul.

The current insurgency at their best will be able to inflict some casualties against the government, but they will never be able to gain political or militarily upper hand. The only way they can gain anything at all, is by negotiating with the government.

So in the end, no matter what the Taliban sympathizers says; it will not change the ground realities.

If i am not mistaken, didn't the Mujhadeen now Taliban control the government until 2001 until the American invasion?

[khushal]

What do you think about those who say: if ghani would not have agreed to share power with that pimp, there would have been a civil war by now. Do you agree?

The civil war has been on going for the past 14 years. If Ghani did not agree, the money would have been only pouring to the Ax2 camp. The election only decides which camp gets the money for their own pockets, not about which policy would help the people.

[ComradePashtun]

Without Pakistani support Taliban will be vanquished in a year. They have less than 2% support of the population. Bombing banks and markets is excusable? At the end of the day it all depends on GHQ Rawal Bendi when it turns the tub there will be no Taliban.

But what should Afghanistan do with Taliban after peace? What can be the end game?